Need help building or buying

[Edwin Phate]

Hey guys I think my old acer is getting too old dvd drive failed old processor and I think im hitting a bottle cap cause of my cpu and motherboard. I want it to be upgradable and not have to buy another computer for 3 years. Mainly light gaming guildwars 1 and the upcoming 2 also hd movie watching. basically a htpc.

I have $600 no more I can keep my psu 650 bfg, Monitor and graphics card radeon hd5750. I dont mind building it myself but thermal paste scares me lol dont want to mess it up and besides some warranty would be nice and thats why i am aiming for prebuilt unless you guys strongly suggest building myself in which cash im not even sure if i would be able to keep my case. I want to say its micro ATX but im not entirely certain. Its not a tiny tower more like middle sized.

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: asap

PARTS I ALREADY HAVE: PSU MONITOR (HDTV 1920X1080) Graphics Card Hd Radeon 5750.

BUDGET RANGE: $600

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming,HD movies, Multi tasking

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PC:Ebay, Newegg, ewiz.com and other suggestions

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: USA

WHY PREBUILT VERSUS CUSTOM BUILT: Warranty no experience building from scratch.

I HAVE CONSIDERED THE FOLLOWING: Price for performance. An affordable gaming pc.

WOULD YOU CONSIDER A CUSTOM BUILT INSTEAD: Yes.

Each of the Spoilers is a differnt build or premade.

Price as configured:
$457
-15 coupon
+ UPS Ground $39.85
=481.85 before Tax

OH YEA I CALLED AND THERE IS A $35 DOLLAR ASSEMBLY FEE. not bad really what do you guys think also i dont see any heatsink

Estimated Ship Date:
2010-06-25

Questions?Call:
408-934-2500

So this is what i got from that eWiz.com site.
Antec Sonata Elite Silent Tower Case (Black/Silver)
AMD Phenom II X4 Processor 965 (3.4GHz) AM3, Retail
ASRock M3A785GXH/128M Socket AM3/ AMD 785G/ 3-Way CrossFireX/ A&V&GbE/ ATX Motherboard
Super Talent DDR3-1600 4GB(2X2G) CL9 Dual Channel Memory kit
Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS 500GB SATA2 7200rpm 16MB Hard Drive
Samsung TS-H663B 22X DVDRW SATA Internal Drive (Black), Bulk w/o Software



If i change the case to
Thermaltake Element T VK90001N2Z w/ 200mm Top Fan Mid Tower Gaming Case (Black\
the total will be $436
UPS Ground $39.85
-15 coupon
=$460.85 BEFORE TAX

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other pre builts im lookings at
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883147255
General Spec
Brand HP
Series Pavilion
Model P6320Y(AY748AAR)
Type Home / Home Office
Processor AMD Phenom II X4 820(2.8GHz)
Processor Main Features 64 bit Quad-Core Processor
Cache Per Processor 4 x 512KB L2 Cache
Memory 8GB DDR3
Hard Drive 1TB SATA
Optical Drive 1 SuperMulti DVD Burner with LightScribe Technology
Graphics NVIDIA GeForce 9100 Graphics
Audio High Definition 8-channel audio
Ethernet 10/100Base-T network interface
Wireless Card Wireless LAN 802.11a/b/g/n
Keyboard HP USB keyboard
Mouse HP USB optical mouse
Operating System Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit

$549.99
Free Shipping*
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$489.99
$9.99 Shipping*
General Spec
Brand HP
Series Pavilion
Model P6310Y(AY747AAR)
Type Home / Home Office
Processor AMD Athlon II X4 630(2.8GHz)
Processor Main Features 64 bit Quad-Core Processor
Cache Per Processor 2MB L2 Cache
Memory 6GB DDR3
Hard Drive 1TB SATA
Optical Drive 1 SuperMulti DVD Burner with LightScribe Technology
Graphics NVIDIA GeForce 9100 Graphics
Audio High Definition 8-channel audio
Ethernet 10/100Base-T network interface
Keyboard HP USB keyboard
Mouse HP USB optical mouse
Operating System Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
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last one


Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case ,comes with Three Fans-1x Front Blue LED 120mm Fan, 1x Top 140mm Fan, 1x Rear 120mm Fan, option Fans-2x Side 120mm Fan$44.99 Free Shipping*
Choose this because its mid and comes with fans free Shipping!

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM $9.99
Free Shipping*


A-DATA 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model AD3U1333B2G9-DRH $97.99 Free Shipping


ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro Rev.2 92mm Fluid Dynamic CPU Cooler $39.98
Free Shipping*


MSI 870A-G54 AM3 AMD 870 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
AMD Athlon II X4 635 Propus 2.9GHz Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Model ADX635WFGIBOX
Combo Discount: -$20.00
Combo Price: $179.98




Rosewill - Pellucid HD Series Swivel HDMI cable (10 FEET)

7 Item(s)
($392.92)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136319
new grand total
8 Item(s)
($467.91)

 

[Route44]

The eWiz has the best processor hands down. Does it include the OS in that price? I wouldn't settle for anything else but Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit.

 

[raybay]

So you have some good choices there. All are acceptable. We don't know how you use a computer, but this looks OK.
I would avoid the Rosewill... there are better products for the same or lower price.
Don't get pulled into the idea of a fancy cooler... You can save a lot of money by getting a standard cooler. You might end up with a little more fan noise, is all.
Build your own rather than getting the HP kits... as you will benefit from all the learning that goes on...
There is a magazine on the racks right now for $7.00 called something like Build a Better PC, that will be helpful.

 

[Edwin Phate]

Thank you for the replies one thing i forgot to mention is that on the last build i forgot to add a Hard drive but ill update if you guys had to choose a cpu cooler what would you choose im really looking to spend the least with the most performance.

Also i have no experience building from scratch i have swapped out ram graphics cards psu's dvd drives. never installed a cpu and thermal paste.


here is another build im more comfortable spending this much. do you guys see anything wrong with the compatibility.
APEX Vortex 3620 M-ATX No Power Supply Mid Tower Gaming Case, Retail
AMD Athlon II X4 Quad-Core Processor 630 (2.8GHz) AM3, Retail
ASRock M3A785GXH/128M Socket AM3/ AMD 785G/ 3-Way CrossFireX/ A&V&GbE/ ATX Motherboard
Kingston KVR1333D3N9K2/4G DDR3-1333 4GB (2x2GB) CL9 Memory Kit
Western Digital Caviar Blue WD3200AAJS 320GB SATA2 7200rpm 8MB Hard Drive
Samsung TS-H663B 22X DVDRW SATA Internal Drive (Black), Bulk w/o Software
$319.00 parts
$35 dollar assembly fee.
$36.63 shipping
=390.63

and no rosewill

that does not include oem on any Ewiz but i have a OEM disc

 

[mailpup]

For my AMD processors I've always used the Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro and for my Intel processors I've used the Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro. They've always worked fine for me and are much quieter than the stock HSFs. The revision 2 is similar and appears to be intended to replace both. I've actually bought one for my i7 rig but have not installed it yet.

I don't overclock so I could get by with the stock HSF but I want the extra margin it provides.

 

[Edwin Phate]

i bought the last build payed.
Tax $28.71
Shipment method: UPS Ground + Signature Shipping & Handling $36.63
Signature Fee $2.5

Total $386.84


btw could i keep using my current psu for crossfire with it?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...a&AID=10446076&PID=3675192&SID=skim951X490024
with two of these?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150448

 

[raybay]

You are on the right track. You would be happy with the CPU cooling system that comes with the motherboard. Except for extreme gamers, CPU cooling is really not a problem in our shops. You do want a name brand in the event you have to get warranty work or replacement later on.

 

[raybay]

For hard drives, stick with Western Digital, Seagate, Fujitsu, and Samsung. Avoid Hitachi, Maxtor, Tri-Gem, and others unless you have inside information on which drives are reliable. If you are buying a laptop, consider the extra money of installing a Solid State Drive.
Three years from now, the drives with rotational platters will be difficult to find... as the solid state technology is moving that rapidly... with almost daily price drops, and almost monthly increases in capacity.

 

[fairytale00]

sounds great.

 

[DavidDavy]

I want to buy a DVD burner, which is kind of good? and price is how much? Thanks much for your time

 

[pretzelwagon]

Newegg Wattage Calculator

i bought the last build payed.
Tax $28.71
Shipment method: UPS Ground + Signature Shipping & Handling $36.63
Signature Fee $2.5

Total $386.84


btw could i keep using my current psu for crossfire with it?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...a&AID=10446076&PID=3675192&SID=skim951X490024
with two of these?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150448

I discovered this tool a while back. It's good for ball-parking power needs for a build. Hope it helps:

http://educations.newegg.com/tool/psucalc/index.html

 

[Edwin Phate]

For my AMD processors I've always used the Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro and for my Intel processors I've used the Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro. They've always worked fine for me and are much quieter than the stock HSFs. The revision 2 is similar and appears to be intended to replace both. I've actually bought one for my i7 rig but have not installed it yet.

I don't overclock so I could get by with the stock HSF but I want the extra margin it provides.

i just ordered the Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro. Anyway you guys can help me with over clocking it it has something called Ez OC,amd overdrive and is united overclocking technology that and my lack of sleep has rendered me slowwwww im also buying the hsf for this reason.

just in case you forgot i bought these.
APEX Vortex 3620 M-ATX No Power Supply Mid Tower Gaming Case, Retail
AMD Athlon II X4 Quad-Core Processor 630 (2.8GHz) AM3, Retail
ASRock M3A785GXH/128M Socket AM3/ AMD 785G/ 3-Way CrossFireX/ A&V&GbE/ ATX Motherboard
Kingston KVR1333D3N9K2/4G DDR3-1333 4GB (2x2GB) CL9 Memory Kit
Western Digital Caviar Blue WD3200AAJS 320GB SATA2 7200rpm 8MB Hard Drive
Samsung TS-H663B 22X DVDRW SATA Internal Drive (Black), Bulk w/o Software
and i want to oc the amd 630.