We don't have this issue with Music? I can easily listen to American Music on any streaming service here in the UK. Yet I cannot stream American shows?Because what Netflix pays for content in the US could be different than in the UK. And not only what they pay but who they pay. If you simply allow unfettered access to programming anywhere from anywhere you are potentially bypassing the lawful owner of that content and they may not get paid.
It's not an epic win because Netflix could be held liable for allowing unauthorized users to access content they should not be able to access. The copyright laws are truly a complex mess and need to be reworked.
As it so happens, you do have this issue with Music. It's just not enforced as much. For example, musicians in the UK may not get paid when streaming music from the US. See this article.We don't have this issue with Music? I can easily listen to American Music on any streaming service here in the UK. Yet I cannot stream American shows?
If I pay for Netflix in the UK, then use a VPN to watch something on American Netflix, why wouldn't whoever made the show get paid from me streaming it?
You might just be one of the best commenters on here in ages. Well explained, nicely written and backed up with links. I like you <3As it so happens, you do have this issue with Music. It's just not enforced as much. For example, musicians in the UK may not get paid when streaming music from the US. See this article.
While you pay Netflix, ,and I guarantee you it's not Netflix that is raising a stink, the copyright holder or distribution company may not be the same in the US and UK. So, for every show that is played where money should go to a UK company, the money, instead, goes back to the US. That's likely a simplification, but you can read up on it here.
Don't ask me to explain why this is, other than what the article states. But it's very F'd up because when those laws and many of those contracts were written up there was no such thing as streaming, much less computers at home. I'm not defending the practice, just that I understand why Netflix is trying to maintain some control over it.
I do understand, I just hate the copyright thing, as you say needs reworking.Because what Netflix pays for content in the US could be different than in the UK. And not only what they pay but who they pay. If you simply allow unfettered access to programming anywhere from anywhere you are potentially bypassing the lawful owner of that content and they may not get paid.
It's not an epic win because Netflix could be held liable for allowing unauthorized users to access content they should not be able to access. The copyright laws are truly a complex mess and need to be reworked.
From a consumer's point of view the issue isn't money, but availability. The pay to the musicians may be more or less, but the same content is available regardless of whether I'm in the US, UK or EU (I'm sure there may be some exceptions, but I've certainly not heard of any major musicians or publishers whose content is available in select regions only). The same is decidedly not true for video streaming services. If a show is available in Netflix in the US but not in my region, then my options for legitimately viewing it may be severely limited or even nonexistent.As it so happens, you do have this issue with Music. It's just not enforced as much. For example, musicians in the UK may not get paid when streaming music from the US. See this article.
While you pay Netflix, ,and I guarantee you it's not Netflix that is raising a stink, the copyright holder or distribution company may not be the same in the US and UK. So, for every show that is played where money should go to a UK company, the money, instead, goes back to the US. That's likely a simplification, but you can read up on it here.
Don't ask me to explain why this is, other than what the article states. But it's very F'd up because when those laws and many of those contracts were written up there was no such thing as streaming, much less computers at home. I'm not defending the practice, just that I understand why Netflix is trying to maintain some control over it.
what's wrong with just requiring a US issued credit card for example?)
You must not have tried to share one of your Spotify playlists with a US subscriber then. Music is also region-locked. I learned this just recently when a UK friend tried to share a Spotify list with me. Even though I had access to every song on his list, he still could not share it. I ended up just recreating his list as a list of my own. Out of curiosity, I tried to share that with him and... nope. I could share it with others who were in the US though.We don't have this issue with Music? I can easily listen to American Music on any streaming service here in the UK. Yet I cannot stream American shows?
If I pay for Netflix in the UK, then use a VPN to watch something on American Netflix, why wouldn't whoever made the show get paid from me streaming it?
I hadn't tried that! What's wrong with companies? Did they just not learn anything in the past 30-40 years?You must not have tried to share one of your Spotify playlists with a US subscriber then. Music is also region-locked. I learned this just recently when a UK friend tried to share a Spotify list with me. Even though I had access to every song on his list, he still could not share it. I ended up just recreating his list as a list of my own. Out of curiosity, I tried to share that with him and... nope. I could share it with others who were in the US though.
Nope.I hadn't tried that! What's wrong with companies? Did they just not learn anything in the past 30-40 years?
I completely understand the consumer's issue. The problem is the content providers have decided, for whatever reason, that not all content should be available in all places. Even in the US, sports events are not available in every State. They are blocked depending on the region. For example, I cannot watch a Seattle game when I am in Phoenix, unless that game is nationally televised. I could VPN to a Seattle server and try to stream it but for the most part that is blocked (I know, I tried).From a consumer's point of view the issue isn't money, but availability. The pay to the musicians may be more or less, but the same content is available regardless of whether I'm in the US, UK or EU (I'm sure there may be some exceptions, but I've certainly not heard of any major musicians or publishers whose content is available in select regions only). The same is decidedly not true for video streaming services. If a show is available in Netflix in the US but not in my region, then my options for legitimately viewing it may be severely limited or even nonexistent.
This is the best suggestion that I have heard from this thread. It would be great if that were done with all content, IMO.They aren't trying to limit access by citizenship, but by current location. I am a US citizen, and I have 5 US credit cards. However, I haven't lived in the USA for nearly 15 years. The solution is for Netflix to negotiate with the rights holder, and make a global library available to everyone. Netflix doesn't charge me less when I am in a country, whose Netflix library is only 30% of the USA library content.
Clever, and perhaps the only way around it. Unless, of course, Netflix were to somehow block your home IP address.I don't use a commercial VPN service, I have a firewall with a VPN. I just VPN to my home network and it for all intents and purposes looks like I am in my home country. I can use netflix and they are none the wiser as they know nothing about my VPN connection to my firewall.
Netflix does not only have other provider's content. IMO, much of the attraction to Netflix is their original content - some of which is exceptional, IMO.Netflix....the Blockbuster of the 2000's.
By the time studios pull all of their movies, for their own streaming services, other than Netflix
content, there won't be much worth watching.
I've never watched netflix. I already pay for Amazon Prime (until it comes due in September).
I'm not so sure world-wide licensing would benefit the consumer. What would happen is a smaller number of companies would control the content and that is likely to keep the cost high for the consumer. Also, not every company has the people and "infrastructure" to deliver content across the globe. It would certainly be easier for larger corporations to do that, which may or may not be a good thing.Or imagine that, they could stop the dumb license war and make everything available globally, actually benefiting the user instead making more money? I know, that sounds horrible practice, who would agree to that, and this does not only impact netflix.
I would pay for it, but now the only way is to go get some torrents
at least this means less vpn sponsor deals and ads, witch is good, they are misleading a lot of ppl with it and making money of fools
Yeah because how else can they track, I was using PureVPN and they were the first to unblock Netflix US, that's it. All other libraries were gone. DANGSo... The blocked legit residential IPs just need to install a VPN.