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Network Magic 4.7

By jobeard
Feb 15, 2008
  1. Network Magic (trial/purchase + degrades to freeware)

    http://www.networkmagic.com/

    Features / Benefits http://www.networkmagic.com/product/essentials.php

    Nice tool for home users to monitor lan systems. My interest is the network mapping tool, but the product offers much more.
    I did not allow this product to control my router or sharing (as I have them as I like),
    but some users may need / like the assistance offered in this area.

    In the install process, it will scan your network so don't be surprised that your IDS /
    firewall may prompt for permission or fire off alters -- just keep allowing them until it is finished.

    The names and icons for devices / systems can be edited to fit your preferences too.

    I intend to let the trial lapse and see what features are still enabled.
     

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  2. LNCPapa

    LNCPapa TS Special Forces Posts: 4,371   +289

    Very interesting - I think I'll check this out when I get home.
     
  3. jobeard

    jobeard TS Ambassador Topic Starter Posts: 13,514   +336

    follow-up after trial period lapses:

    The network mapping still works (systems still report when connect/disconnect occurs)
    and is my primary interest.

    Sharing control stops working (but I personally want to control that anyway).
     
  4. tipstir

    tipstir TS Ambassador Posts: 4,752   +96

    jobeard, I don't think this is such a good product. It crashes and can't detect every device on your network in it's network mapping display. NetworkView does a better job. This program is good for those who don't have Vista and gives XP those features. I had ran these for a test on my entire network for a few weeks. Finally had to remove the software off.
     
  5. jobeard

    jobeard TS Ambassador Topic Starter Posts: 13,514   +336

    hum; You have XP/Media and I have XP/Pro/Sp2. There have been issues unique to both.

    My XP/Pro SP2 runs quite well and NM finds my Linux, OS X, two routers and an Xbox.
     
  6. LNCPapa

    LNCPapa TS Special Forces Posts: 4,371   +289

    I've been running it for 3 days now on an XP Pro SP2 machine - it's been very stable (no crashes or unexpected behavior.) My only problem with it is how it draws the map. I have to scroll right and left to see all the devices it locates. Also, it doesn't see any of my switches and I could have sworn I've seen some applications out there that could.
     
  7. jobeard

    jobeard TS Ambassador Topic Starter Posts: 13,514   +336

    hum; unless the device has an ip-address, I would not expect it to be found, as
    how can it be seen via ping, smnp, or other protocol?
     
  8. tipstir

    tipstir TS Ambassador Posts: 4,752   +96

    No I have: Windows 2003 Server managing: SMTP Server / Web Mail Client, Web Server to manage intranet Web Site, Print Server ...

    Clients OS: 4x XP Pro SP2 wireless (laptops) and 4x XP MCE 2005 SP2 wired (desktops)

    Media Streaming: 7x Hauppauge Media MVP (1x wireless bridge MVP)

    Everything works here stable.. I wanted to try this talk about tool and there was mention about it a while back here I had reported. But I had both version Free and Pro. After a few weeks I started to notice a slowness in the wireless laptops and then the network mapping tool couldn't find my devices it would drop them.

    But in any case this network tool you already have it with XP just makes it easier for non administrators to use it. Otherwise technically you really don't need it. Except for Network Monitor or you could use NetworkView it will map out the entire network and also monitor what's off and on around the clock.
     
  9. tipstir

    tipstir TS Ambassador Posts: 4,752   +96

  10. jobeard

    jobeard TS Ambassador Topic Starter Posts: 13,514   +336

    Sorry. I got that from your System Specs. Guess you have other (several :) ) systems.

    Nice screen shot :)
     
  11. tipstir

    tipstir TS Ambassador Posts: 4,752   +96

    It's okay you didn't know what's going on here.. :) Just for fun I've installed this newer version to see if they have made improvements. Well I did find all my network devices well some it didn't know what the heck it was. None of the wireless access points and wireless drop bridge nor the media streaming devices did get ID! But looks like it can be a manual process. Stil they need to fix the mapping screen for those of use who have more than 15 devices on the network to discover. As you see with NetworkView about it pans downs the list from network nodes after you do a discovery range. By-the-way that NV can be printer out on your laser or color printer.
     
     
  12. tipstir

    tipstir TS Ambassador Posts: 4,752   +96

    Gone back with NM 4.1xxx that's seem stable than 4.7 NM. So far.. I'll give it until april to see how it goes..
     
  13. raybay

    raybay TS Evangelist Posts: 10,716   +6

    We agree with you Jobeard. Network Magic is a good program. We have it on a large number of client machines where they need the tools it provides. We have not seen crashes or problems. It is handy, also, for dealing with user issues over the phone... allowing us to speak a common language.
     
  14. tipstir

    tipstir TS Ambassador Posts: 4,752   +96

    Well gone this working with Master Browser and everything I have on the network.

    Best way to install this software is start with the Master Browser Server. Once that is loaded and all shared printers and shared folders are set. Then add the software to each PC. Just finished took a while and found two systems on the network can't share. I'll fix those later.. Well since there really isn't anything else that can monitor the network and display a mapping view, and fix the network well somewhat. Still you got to know what you're doing still. But the software is pretty smart to monitor everything got wired and wireless and plus keep and eye on the Router and modem.
     
  15. tipstir

    tipstir TS Ambassador Posts: 4,752   +96

    In options then click on advanced

    change:

    normal

    5

    to

    slower

    10

    since this software is like having server or home server 2003 this is the best setting so far.
     
  16. tipstir

    tipstir TS Ambassador Posts: 4,752   +96

    Going to be testing this on Windows 2003 Server and tie everything into that machine as the main master browser. So far NM working great..
     
  17. Nirkon

    Nirkon TS Enthusiast Posts: 243

    I used it.. it wasn't that great for me..
    it was missing a few network features I needed.
     
  18. raybay

    raybay TS Evangelist Posts: 10,716   +6

    What "few network features" were missing?
     
  19. tipstir

    tipstir TS Ambassador Posts: 4,752   +96

    I've removed it and just go a new router that came with it on CD.. But not needed, if you assigned the main PC on our network as the Master Browser and turn off the feature on the rest on the PCs on the network. I have Server 200e as the Master Browser and the Workstations have Computer Browser not started. I can see all PCs on the network now. Plus replacing main router has also fixed some issues. Network Magic is always running discoveries and if you got more than 8 network devices it can blog down the network.
     
  20. jobeard

    jobeard TS Ambassador Topic Starter Posts: 13,514   +336

    Did you restrict the IP range to a reasonable number of systems or did you just
    cover the entire subnet x.1-x.254?
     
  21. tipstir

    tipstir TS Ambassador Posts: 4,752   +96

    My network range is set IP and subnet not problem their.. Well it did pickup everything even the server. I didn't like the fact everything is running like so much activity with going though every second. Yes that is normal for that software to keep monitoring the network and all attached devices if one goes down it will report so. Are you running this software? For guys like us we don't need it for new users who have small networks yeah in a way is should help them know what's going on.

    Dlink is dropping Network Magic from it line up of routers this year for this:

    [​IMG]

    Like Network Magic is another one you have to pay for also... Although this software will be integrated within the Web GUI..
     
  22. ISPEED

    ISPEED TS Rookie Posts: 19

    easy

    i recently switched all of my pcs on my home network (5) over to DLINK 802.11 n equipment the main reason was to play my sons backed up dvd collection over my wireless network i found network easy to setup and use with some simple one click security settings such as mac address filtering.
     
  23. tipstir

    tipstir TS Ambassador Posts: 4,752   +96

    Welcome to TechSpot
    You didn't if you're using NM? Which Dlink router are using for N?
     
  24. ISPEED

    ISPEED TS Rookie Posts: 19

    router

    i am using a DLINK extreme N router and i have a linux box with a wireless n pci card my wife has a lenovo ideapad y710 with onboard 802.11n and the media center pc i am building is going to have a wireless n card as well i saved most of my dvd collection to external hard drives using dvd shrink i saved them as ISO images with no compression (hey hard drives are cheap ) and i playback the ISOs with VLC media player. they play perfectly over the N network
     
  25. tipstir

    tipstir TS Ambassador Posts: 4,752   +96

    I have the same router now A3 hardware version with WPS button on the right side, after going through some bad N routers best to get this one. Smart move to save your DVD collection and it will all work.. I've post some info about HTPC in the Audio Video thread here it's in what they call a sticky area where it doesn't move. So it's ontop.

    I am doing what you doing first with my VHS collection trying to save them before they are no more..

    VCR (hi-fi stereo) to DVD Recorder using DVDRW 1x-4x media
    Take the VOB files and rename them to myvideo.mpg
    Use Womble MPEG-VCR to edit and save in real-time.
    Erase DVDRW and start the process again.
    Everything so far has come out perfect.

    Next I'll do what you're doing... I'll need 3 TB drives though or more. LOL
     
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