Networking Issue (Linksys and Zonet)

By cns03
Nov 14, 2005
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  1. Hello everyone.. love the site...this will be my first post...so I'll try to make it good!! hehe

    Ok,, Scenario:

    Recently purchased a Zonet ZSR0104UP router which is a print server (with LPT and USB) and router.. Also have a Linksys BEFSR41 (Standar 4-port Broadband router). Now, I dont need to do this following setup...just like to do it for practice and learning...

    Now, I have setup the following ( final setup after many different subnet variations)

    Linksys router is a 199.194.93.1 / 255.255.255.128 (internet gateway as well) with one computer on that side 199.194.93.2 / 255.255.255.128

    Zonet router is a 199.194.94.1 / 255.255.255.128 with one computer on that side 199.194.94.2 / 255.255.255.128

    Static routes have been setup on each router...

    Linksys : Destination: 199.194.94.0
    Subnet: 255.255.255.128
    Gateway: 199.194.94.1 > for all .94 traffic

    and...
    Zonet : Destination: 199.194.93.0
    Subnet: 255.255.255.128
    Gateway: 199.194.93.1 > for all .93 traffic

    Now...communication is great..can get out to the internet...but...:

    Computer on .94 side can ping the .93 router(Linksys) and the .93.2 computer

    Computer on the .93 side can ping the .94.2 computer - BUT NOT THE .94.1 ROUTER(Zonet) - GRRR!!!

    Doesn't make sense because the route would have to run thru the 94.1 router to get to 199.194.94.2 -
    Now, this isnt really a problem other than the .93.2 computer needs to see the router to get the print server functionality....

    So, I have ran thru a ton of firewall settings on the router and made sure ping requests are enabled for the print server router, etc... nothing has been successfull...I have even ran thru a few different subnets just to try and even different IP's (tried a 10.0.1.1 and 10.0.2.1 setup...same scenario happened as what is happening now..)

    If anyone has any input or ideas...It would be greatly appreciated!!

    Thank you in advance
  2. Nodsu

    Nodsu Newcomer, in training Posts: 9,431

    You have to enable responding to ping in the router config (not under packet filter). It may be somewhere under general security, WAN settings or remote administration. And it may have a very obscure name like "enable WAN request".
  3. cns03

    cns03 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

    update

    Thank you Nodsu... I had already thought about that and it is enabled...it is called, "respond to ping requests" on this router and it is enabled.... I was hoping it was that simple too..but no go

    Any other suggestions??
  4. cns03

    cns03 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

    Update to situation...I ended up calling Zonet and explaining the scenario...
    Side note: tech support was very good...I was impressed..the lady I talked to wanted to hear the whole situation...the whole IP setup and everything....I was floored...cuz you dont get good customer service/support these days...

    Anyhow, she stated the Zonet would only work if it was on the .93 network... which is true, cuz it does and did when I had it all on the same network...but just trying to get this to work... So, I know the router portion works, just some limations to the way the print server functionality works...

    So, even though she stated it is a limitation, I am still pondering on how I could get it to work LOL...Obviously the Linksys .93 side sees the damn thing cuz the .94 side can get out to the internet and .93 computer can talk to .94 computer.....

    So, if anyone has any other suggestions, other than give-up lol, let me know...

    Thanks
  5. gary_hendricks

    gary_hendricks Newcomer, in training Posts: 138

    I gotta consider Zonet the next time I want a broadband svc provider then...
  6. jobeard

    jobeard TS Ambassador Posts: 13,284   +281

    its the Subnet: 255.255.255.128 being too narrow.
    With one addressed as 199.194.94.1 and the other 199.194.93.1
    the subnet needs to be much broader. try 255.255.128.0 on both
  7. cns03

    cns03 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

    That is what I figured too.... but the Linksys router will only let you support subnets of 255.255.255.something..

    cant have 255.255.something.0 or 128 or ...etc..
  8. Nodsu

    Nodsu Newcomer, in training Posts: 9,431

    Just to clarify.. You say you have two local networks, 93 and 94. How are the routers connected to each other? Via a cable in their LAN ports?

    If you want routing to work then the IP addresses have to be in different subnets. Try giving one half an address with the last byte above 128 and the other half below 128. 199.194.93.201 and 199.194.93.101 for example to the routers.
  9. cns03

    cns03 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

    Yes they are connected via a cable in the lan ports....

    But here's the thing...like I said, the "Routing" portion of this setup did work...The static routes I entered were correct because I was able to ping the computers from each side....and I proved it by building and taking away the route during pings......and was able to get out to the internet from the side not connected to the "gateway" router (Linksys)....So the computers are on different subnets.... 199.194.93.1/255.255.255.128 gives me a 199.194.93.0 subnet and 199.194.94.1/255.255.255.128 gives me a 199.194.94.0 subnet...

    So, for what I want to work(The computer on the Linksys side to see the to the see the Zonet router so the Print Server functionality will work)...seeing as how the Linksys couldn't directly ping the Zonet router.... what Jobeard said would work..... but due to a limitation of the Linksys router...I cannot select anything other than:
    255.255.255.(something) from the drop-down list.... This particular router does not allow you to manually assign the subnet mask unfortunately :(
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