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New PC Help

By paragon
Aug 19, 2008
  1. I intend on buying a new pc. Since I'm buying pc parts separately and will build the pc myself, I would like to know if the following Pc parts are good:
    1. Motherboard Asus P5QL-PRO
    2. Core 2 Duo E8400
    3. Geforce 9500GT 1GB Pci-e 2.0
     
  2. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] Hello, nice to meet you! Posts: 3,435   +145

    Yes they are good. Except you don't want the 1 gig version of the 9500gt, the 512 would be fine.

    Tell us your budget and what your going to use it for.
     
  3. paragon

    paragon TS Rookie Topic Starter

    Thanks hellokitty. Well, dont worry about the budget. I've already checked the prices of the products and it's affordable for me. Well, i'll be using my pc mainly for gaming purposes.
     
  4. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] Hello, nice to meet you! Posts: 3,435   +145

    Were are you getting you prices? And what i ment was if you want to spend $1000, $2000...total on the computer. If you ahve to budget then you might as well buy the best of the best.

    For gaming the 9500gt is fine, but its still more of a budget card, however, prices of the 8800gt are so cheep right now i would recommend one like this:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133232

    Also have you thought of a monitor, Os, case, mouse, keyboard, hard drive, power supply, RAM...?
     
  5. paragon

    paragon TS Rookie Topic Starter

    I'm from Mauritius and I'll be buying all my pc parts here itself. To give you a better idea, here the parts that i'll be buying:
    -Viewsonic LCD 17"
    -Hard Disk 250GB
    -2GB RAM DDR2 667
    -1GB RAM DDR2 667
    -Core 2 Duo E8400
    -Asus P5QL-PRO
    -Geforce 9500GT 1GB
    -Case
    I'll be getting all this at around Rs27 000 which is approx. $960
     
  6. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] Hello, nice to meet you! Posts: 3,435   +145

    So your saying one 2gig stick and one 1 gig stick?

    Your forgot a power supply and optical drive, And ill just assume you have keyboards and mice and an 64 bit os, which you will need for more than ≈2 gigs of ram.


    This i think is probably better and more complete:

    250gig hdd $54
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148261

    17" monitor $140
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009136

    8800gt $120
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133205

    Optical drive, $18
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827101131

    450w power supply $80
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139003

    Motherboard $50
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813135068

    E7200 2.53ghz (not 8400)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115052

    Note here are 2 choices for ram, one 2 gig and one 4 gig as more than 2gigs of ram can be a hassle:

    2x2 $70
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211166

    2x1 $40
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145098


    This totals up to around $600 - $650.
     
  7. paragon

    paragon TS Rookie Topic Starter

    Thanks for your suggestions hk. Yeah i'll be buying 2 memory sticks. One 2GB ram and one 1GB ram. One thing i would like to ask. The graphic card is ddr3. Does it work on ddr2 motherboard? my motherboard will have a Pci-express 2.0 port. Will it work in that?
     
  8. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] Hello, nice to meet you! Posts: 3,435   +145

    Yes its fine. But you do know that the 8800gt is i think twice as powerfull ad the 9500 right?
     
  9. OpTiMuSpRiMe

    OpTiMuSpRiMe TS Rookie Posts: 156

    well you don't really want to buy two different sized sticks of ram..u need to keep them the same size and type so that you can run dual channel on your mother board...especially for gaming..and yes the gddr3 on the video card will run on that system board.the video ram doesn't matter much when it comes to motherboard choice..its the system ram that matters..ex: ddr2 won't run in ddr1 slots so on so forth
     
  10. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 5,431   +28

    Actually, any thing above 3GB of RAM won't be recognized. Since he has 1GB of VRAM, the total memory recognized by any 32-bit OS comes up to 4GB which is the maximum. Anything beyond and it won't recognize it.

    I'd recommend two 2GB sticks of the same type for the best performance.

    And yes, the 8800GT or the 9600GT will be far better than your current choice, unless you're strapped for cash. If you want, go for a cheaper CPU like the E7200 or the E4600 and get a more powerful video card like the 8800GT. It would get you much better game performance than a very fast CPU paired with a low-end GPU.
     
  11. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] Hello, nice to meet you! Posts: 3,435   +145

    I regret choosing my E4600, if only the E7200 came out a week earlier :'(. Go for the E7200 over the E4600.
     
  12. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] Hello, nice to meet you! Posts: 3,435   +145

    Were was it that you were getting your prices? EDIT: oh woops i double posted.
     
  13. paragon

    paragon TS Rookie Topic Starter

    Is the 9500GT 1gb card better than a 8600GT 1gb?
     
  14. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] Hello, nice to meet you! Posts: 3,435   +145

    Yes but forget about the 1 gig, its not worth it.
     
  15. OpTiMuSpRiMe

    OpTiMuSpRiMe TS Rookie Posts: 156

    Windows XP Professional and Windows Server 2003 Memory Support. The maximum amount of memory that can be supported on Windows XP Professional and Windows Server 2003 is also 4 GB. However, Windows Server 2003, Enterprise Edition supports 32 GB of physical RAM and Windows Server 2003, Datacenter Edition supports 64 GB of physical RAM using the PAE feature.

    The virtual address space of processes and applications is still limited to 2 GB unless the /3GB switch is used in the Boot.ini file. When the physical RAM in the system exceeds 16 GB and the /3GB switch is used, the operating system will ignore the additional RAM until the /3GB switch is removed. This is because of the increased size of the kernel required to support more Page Table Entries. The assumption is made that the administrator would rather not lose the /3GB functionality silently and automatically; therefore, this requires the administrator to explicitly change this setting.

    The /3GB switch allocates 3 GB of virtual address space to an application that uses IMAGE_FILE_LARGE_ADDRESS_AWARE in the process header. This switch allows applications to address 1 GB of additional virtual address space above 2 GB.

    The virtual address space of processes and applications is still limited to 2 GB, unless the /3GB switch is used in the Boot.ini file. The following example shows how to add the /3GB parameter in the Boot.ini file to enable application memory tuning:
     
  16. paragon

    paragon TS Rookie Topic Starter

    Thnks to you all... and i guess you r right hk.. the 1gb video ram isnt the best choice. i guess i'll take a cheaper processor and buy a better graphc card.. a 8800GT if possible..thanks a lot for your help guys
     
  17. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] Hello, nice to meet you! Posts: 3,435   +145

    Your welcome ^^. Was it mentioned that you should instead buy two stick's of the same ram for dual channel speeds?
     
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