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No cd-rom to install XP

By biggent85
Feb 6, 2009
  1. I have a compaq armamda 7800. I recently upgraded to a newer bigger hd. And my problem is I need to reintstall windows xp but i havent got a cd rom drive to install. Although u do have a external cd rom drive but does me no good with a formated hd. If anyone can reply on how to do this plase reply it would be greatly appreciate the help.
     
  2. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 18,353

    Compaq Armada 7800 Notebook (266-MHz Pentium II)

    Pretty sure it won't take XP and all updates
    You can either install Windows 98 or ME via floppy, or throw it away (either way is good ;) )
     
  3. biggent85

    biggent85 TS Rookie Topic Starter

    It will take xp because that is what was on the old hd. But when it was installed it had 98 and the external cd rom was used to install the xp then. When the old hd was in the pc it did in fact take all the updates with no problems.
     
  4. mailpup

    mailpup TS Special Forces Posts: 8,506   +238

    Will your BIOS let you boot from a USB CD drive? Many will but yours is old so I don't know.
     
  5. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 18,353

  6. biggent85

    biggent85 TS Rookie Topic Starter

    No. I've tried it but it did not have an option to boot from usb from the BIOS. I wish it would but it will not. Ty for the reply though.
     
  7. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 18,353

  8. biggent85

    biggent85 TS Rookie Topic Starter

    Yea I know

    Yes DVD drive was optional with some setups. but unfortunatly for me mine dident come with the optional DVD drive. I have an external HP cd-writer 8200 series that runs on usb conection. But there is no option to boot from it. I may have to find an windows 98 diskette. Install it and then install the xp from there. But thats what im trying to get away from. I already bought the xp I hate to buy 98 just to use to install the xp though.
     
  9. mailpup

    mailpup TS Special Forces Posts: 8,506   +238

    How feasible would it be to install a DVD drive now? If it was an option, the connections should be there already. Maybe you can check. You've already replaced a hard drive. Perhaps you might need a new cable, but how much more complicated would an optical drive be?
     
  10. gbhall

    gbhall TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,365   +53

    If you know a friend with a desktop PC, you could do this. Buy an adapter for your hard drive (it will be a small IDE right ?) You can get these small-to-large IDE adapters for less than £1.50. With that, add your hard drive to your friends PC in temporary replacement of a CD for instance.

    Then on the friends PC install and use a partitioning package e.g. EASEUS free, to create two partitions on your new hard drive (maybe 20Gb as NTFS for XP, and the second as NTFS all the rest for the data. OR nearly all in NTFS for XP and the install in a 2Gb partition at the end of the drive, all according to your preference). Copy the entire install CD of Windows XP onto THE SECOND partition, then you put everything back together, and using a suitable DOS boot disk, boot your laptop on floppy and install from the cd copy already on your hard drive. (Enter 'D:\setup' if you are at A: in Dos)

    If you know what to do, it is even easy to make your hard drive C: bootable under Dos in the course of copying the CD there in the first place. I think Easeus will do the bootable bit as well, but not absolutely sure.
     
  11. biggent85

    biggent85 TS Rookie Topic Starter

    It wouldent be hard at all to do. Since the laptop came with a optional CD drive or a DVD drive. The only thing keeping me from doing so is the shortage of finding one. Because I refuse to buy off ebay where I have found a few of each and a few combo drives that are compatable with my system.
     
     
  12. mailpup

    mailpup TS Special Forces Posts: 8,506   +238

    I don't know which interface your notebook uses (SATA or IDE) but if you're interested you could check out the offerings from Newegg: Newegg

    On the linked page look to your left and narrow it down (SATA or IDE) and then the type of slim CD/DVD drive that interests you.

    There are other online sellers too but this is one good example.
     
  13. biggent85

    biggent85 TS Rookie Topic Starter

    Ok guys thanks for the help. I done a little more research that I shoulda done in the first place. And found that my system is infact bootable from USB. But now i have a new problem. I need to get into the BIOS to finish with the install of xp. Problem is with the new HDD there is no BIOS partition located on my HDD. Now what?
     
  14. Sharam

    Sharam TS Rookie Posts: 538

    Bootdisk.com has quite a few floppy and CD images, you can download a bootable floppy with drivers to use almost anything you want.

    Code:
    http://www.bootdisk.com
     
  15. Tedster

    Tedster Techspot old timer..... Posts: 10,074   +13

    oh wow. I really don't recommend running XP on a system that old. XP is REALLY slow on any system with less than 1gb of ram and unbearable with 512mb of ram and just hell with anything less. I suggest using 98SE.
     
  16. biggent85

    biggent85 TS Rookie Topic Starter

    Well it no longer has 512mb of ram it has been upgraded to over 2gb of ram. But getting the OS on the HDD no longer is the problem. My problem now is i cant get into the BIOS to change my boot sequence to USB first. Because there is a partition on the OEM HDD with the BIOS on it and cant get into it to remove it from there and put it on the new HDD.
     
  17. biggent85

    biggent85 TS Rookie Topic Starter

    Bootdisk.com has nothing to help me at all tried a few from them and cant do anything without the partition with the BIOS in it. Thank you for your reply though. Any input is better than none at all I always say. LOL
     
  18. Sharam

    Sharam TS Rookie Posts: 538

    Proper Win9X, XP or even Linux boot disk with USB drivers will allow you to see and access your external drive then initiate setup!.
     
  19. Sharam

    Sharam TS Rookie Posts: 538

    I foud this on Compaq's site:

    Setup_DIAGS.txt
    By Rainald Taesler
    May 07, 2004

    Complete file attached.

    SP9962 and the readme
    SP16085 and the readme
     
  20. mailpup

    mailpup TS Special Forces Posts: 8,506   +238

    The BIOS is on the motherboard, not the hard drive. I'm not sure which key you need to strike to get into Setup (BIOS) but it should say on the starting logo screen and I don't mean the Windows logo screen.

    For the purposes of installing Windows only connect the hard drive you want to put Windows on. Leave the other one out.
     
  21. Sharam

    Sharam TS Rookie Posts: 538

    mailpup, for Compaq is usually F10, the older systems from Compaq as in this Armada 7800, have a Diagnostics Partition on the hard drive to view and change CMOS values, this could be done either from DOS or windows.

    True that it is on the motherboard but without the Diagnostics Partition, F10 will not bring the utility up.

    Default boot sequence, should work but we are talking Compaq here and an older one at that with no internal optical drive!

    I would do the latest BIOS (ROMPAQ I believe it's called) as well.
     
  22. mailpup

    mailpup TS Special Forces Posts: 8,506   +238

    Thank you, Sharam, I learned something.
     
  23. gbhall

    gbhall TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,365   +53

    The bios is in the motherboard, not a HDD. Woops, you got told that already. Wow, TechSpot is REALLY slow tonight !
     
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