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Nokia Plan B shareholders give up after 36 hours

By Emil
Feb 16, 2011
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  1. Yesterday we reported that some Nokia shareholders were offering a Plan B for the company, and even wrote a lengthy list of suggestions. The group of nine young Nokia shareholders was planning to challenge the company's strategy and partnership with Microsoft in the next Annual General Meeting scheduled for May 3, 2011. After 36 hours, however, the group has given...

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  2. yRaz

    yRaz TS Maniac Posts: 1,037   +157

    those nine shareholders never saw a windows phone
     
  3. mosu

    mosu TS Enthusiast Posts: 312   +13

    It's hard fighting the establishment, but you always could try and why not. become the new Google or Apple.Nice try and good luck.
     
  4. Jibberish18

    Jibberish18 TS Maniac Posts: 431   +8

    Too Little Too Late. They didn't say anything while watching the company go downhill for the last 5 years yet now they come up with this "very good idea".
     
  5. MrAnderson

    MrAnderson TS Maniac Posts: 488   +10

    probably not. But just becuase they are going to primarily do windows phones does not mean they can not do other things. ie. do go through with updating R&D to make them more responsive. I say if this windows thing does work to an advantage they can develop software and even work on other projects and test the waters. I think the windows thing will be interesting. I cannot tell if it is a good idea or a bad idea because there is no history and Windows Phone 7 is not mature enough. I think it is a reasonable choice and the market share nokia has will give new OS a chance to grow. Microsoft just really needs to pick up the ball on iteration of the OS and feature updates. Their competition have already set the pace. So they need to keep up, or run right past. The business model for mobile OS versioning has changed drastically. Customers extect to get get regular updates for the life time of the device.

    Apple is more prepared for this kind of model becuase it is not too different from how they managed all their other products. Moreover, when they had a Mac OS release that required a purchase the barrier to entry was so low for upgrades... approx 79.95 each time and enough upgrades to support the same hardware giving the customer time to save up for the next hardware refresh coming around the bend.
     
  6. WP7 for nokia might not be bad. There are not a lot of big players in the smartphone industry that have WP7 as their sole OS. Companies like HTC and LG do have some interesting WP7 phones but most of their best phones are using android. So differentiation might not be that hard, if they can portray themselves as the official WP7 phone maker.
     
  7. Sell your NOK know. NOK to 4.
     
  8. From one of Metallica's songs "Sad, but true".

    Nokia and the recent partnership with Microsoft won't be able to fight the three major mobile operating systems:

    - iOS
    - Android
    - Blackberry RIM

    Nokia will disappear and Windows Phone OS will not establish itself.

    Developers will concentrate on delivering mainly iOS and Android apps.

    Let's prey for the Finnish people ("Finnish"? "Finish"? hehehe...).

    That's the price you pay for being late.

    Cheers, mate.
     
  9. Jibberish18

    Jibberish18 TS Maniac Posts: 431   +8

    It's funny to me. You still find RIM a major mobile operating system. They've gone downhill just like Nokia. Lord knows the Torch didn't save them. Their tablet looks awesome but that's not a phone.
     
  10. yRaz

    yRaz TS Maniac Posts: 1,037   +157

    Why is everyone trying to shoot down WP7 before it even has a chance to take a place in the market? It's really making mad how many people dislike WP7 but know nothing about it.

    Another thing, why do we allow all these guests to troll so much? 2 out of the 3 guests that posted so far have nothing to contribute to the article.
     
  11. @ yRaz

    If Techspot.com blocked Guests, there wouldn't be any posts.

    The Internet is a democratic place.

    Open your mind Noob.
     
     
  12. yRaz

    yRaz TS Maniac Posts: 1,037   +157

    troll!!!

    That bold statement is BS, btw. Thanks for proving my point.
     
  13. Yes i agree with rYaz, on 2 things:

    1. Nobody knows what window phone 7 can do in order to compete with the market, and its value proposition to the customer and also the stockholders. But all in all this may be THE thing to boost Nokia's status back to the front in competing with others, and Stephen knows it which is why i think he agrees to collaborate with Microsoft.. even if it means losing a bit in profit but gaining back the names. So why not we just sit back and see, how Nokia would win back the OS and branding war.

    2. Trolling. Some people may have abandon Nokia because of the new player in town, namely IPhones.. and for this new toy they have chosen to pull others into their side of barring Nokia's support, forgetting all the history Nokia has in providing customer a high durability, efficient, innovative, and creative phones over the past decades.

    For those reader who are reading this do bear in mind that all the comments you've read are merely people's point of view, not the actual fact or happening that is going on right here right now.
     
  14. jobeard

    jobeard TS Ambassador Posts: 13,516   +336

    BRAVO!!! Reading on the Internet, one quickly developes (at least certainly should) the skill to consider the source.
     
  15. personally i cant wait for nokia to get a wp7 phone onto the market,
    many of its high end phones have awesome amounts of hardware features, (e.g. how many other 2/3 year old phones can become wifi hotspots?/have 32gig etc) while symbian has effectivly crippled them.
    even if this partnership turns out to be complete poo, not all the phones are going wp7. and they hold around 33% market share, even last year when nokia did effectivly f-all and apple ate the world. their market share only dropped ~5-10%.
    i am bored of this "pay for phone, pay for contract, pay for calls, pay for software, pay for features". at least nokia gives you something for your money. free satnav anyone?
     
  16. Wagan8r

    Wagan8r TS Guru Posts: 593   +47

    Ugh. You and posts like this make me sick. You don't even recognize the fact that Windows Mobile is an established OS, existing well before iOS and Android! Windows Phone is merely replacing it! And if you're going to include Blackberry, why don't you go ahead and include webOS, MeeGo, and Symbian while you're at it? And I don't think we should "prey" for the Finnish. Praying might be a good thing, but not for work. Nokia isn't the only business in Finland, you know.

    I can't figure that out either. Haters just hate. There's a disgusting anti-Microsoft-anything and worship-Apple-everything disease going around these days. I agree; why can't TechSpot require registering for comments like just about every other tech website?

    Riiiiiight. Cause guests clearly take up the majority of posts...

    The Internet is not democratic. It is a resource for knowledge, an outlet for capitalist gain, and a forum for free expression. There is no majority rule on the Internet.

    And if you call somebody a "Noob", do it properly. n00b.
     
  17. PanicX

    PanicX TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 830

    Not that I can speak for others, but I don't think its so much an anti-microsoft sentiment, as a pro-open source ideal. Open source OS's have had very limited success against the closed source installed user base until Android arrived. In the mobile sector, not only is Android top dog, but its gaining ground, and to see a major player like Nokia choose WP7 is upsetting. Hell, all those developers they just laid off could have EASILY been applied to Android development, you don't suppose Microsoft will hire them do you?
    Personally, I prefer LG's "focus on the hardware for any software" philosophy and let the end users choose whats best for them.
     
  18. princeton

    princeton TS Addict Posts: 1,716

    That's what I was thinking. RIM has relied on its reputation as number 1 for too long. Now that businesses are giving their employees android devices RIM will be giving its employees mass layoffs.
     
  19. Archean

    Archean TechSpot Paladin Posts: 6,062   +77

    @yRaz

    I wish TS would ban Guest posts like few other sites I know have done it. I believe it will improve the quality of contribution we get from members and all the while there will be far less garbage to go through.
     
  20. Wagan8r

    Wagan8r TS Guru Posts: 593   +47

    Yep, there are far too many drive-by posters, who don't care about contributing but only trolling.
     
  21. Jibberish18

    Jibberish18 TS Maniac Posts: 431   +8

    Now now. Nothing wrong with drive by posters. Increases site traffic and lets people express their feelings. Although some of them may be bothersome to you, at least they're not being disrespectful. This is the internet. Be thankful the trolls are mature.

    Also, you know that MANY people still think of Windows Mobile as a slow and complicated OS that it once was. This is to be expected. As for Symbian, it has it's ups and downs. Seems like Nokia did what Blackberry did, which is they were comfortable being on top because of their aging OS, the difference being that they were on top in Europe and RIM was on top worldwide for businesses mainly.
     
  22. Jibberish18

    Jibberish18 TS Maniac Posts: 431   +8

    Apparently this was a Hoax.
     
  23. aj_the_kidd

    aj_the_kidd TS Rookie Posts: 555

    If they gave up after 36 hours clearly they were not fit to lead the company, not to mention the fact that they are a tad bit late with their proposal
     
  24. aj_the_kidd

    aj_the_kidd TS Rookie Posts: 555

  25. Jibberish18

    Jibberish18 TS Maniac Posts: 431   +8

    That's great ^
     


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