Politicians overseeing Internet received over $8 million from major cable companies in 2014

Money is becoming the power at the expense of the people, because of the people, but not for the people. It's not hopeless, it is because of use after all. The ignorance of the masses. Even if voting on a ballot has less and less power and meaning for the People everyday there's still one surefire way to vote. One way that holds the very power that is being stripped from us. One way the cannot be denied. They very thing that makes the world go round. Money. Vote with your money. Unfortunately, that means giving up a lot of things we have been conditioned to want. If we can basically stop being spoiled babies for long enough, the government, corporations, everyone has to listen to US the People once again.

Know who and what you pay your money to. Know what intentions will be used with your money.
 
We need to get the money out of politics period. Here's what we really need:

K Street lobbying firms, organizations like ALEC that write canned corporate legislation for politicians to turn into bills, and corporate PR companies should be run out of town on a rail and their abandoned offices should be use by NGO groups dedicated to keeping money out of Washington.

Candidates from both political parties should get the same amount of money from their national committees to use how they see fit. If they run out, tough, they'll just have to work harder and use their own money just like the rest of us that start a business or try to do anything in our lives.

Once elected to office, politicians should not receive a salary and instead get paid when they actually work with other members of Congress and pass legislation. One paycheck per vote. If they want to be paid they'll have to do the jobs they were elected to do. Plus they should NOT be allowed to vote on their own pay raises, we need an outside group or the general electorate to do that.

Furthermore, all politicians should ONLY be allowed to serve for 2 - 4 year terms in office before being replaced and not be able to be re-elected to the same position afterwards. Also, there should be a minimum amount of time they live and pay taxes in a state before they can run for office there - I'm thinking 4 years at least, to prevent the Hillary Clintons and Scott Browns of the world from moving around and running for office in places they don't even give a crap about.

Finally, if a politician is accused and convicted of a felony crime they should not be able to run for office EVER again and should have their voting rights striped from them just like every other prison inmate in the country.

If we want to get corruption, greed, and power out of politics and return this country to FOR THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE then folks this is what needs to happen.
 
@Curly4 - They're all on the cable companies payroll but Ted Cruz is the only one crying "socialism" and trying to compare it to Obamacare to score political points, instead of seeing it as what many in the tech world and even inside the telecom industry agree as a common sense solution to the problem.

We've been regulating the rest of the telecom industry this way for years and it has helped create competition among providers and allow equal access to the marketplace for all citizens and companies so there's no reason ISPs shouldn't be treated the same way.
 
Ted Cruz has been publically speaking on Net Neutrality. That's why he was in the text of the article, he has inserted himself in to the conversation.
 
How do we stop it when people running for office start receiving bribes as soon as they announce for office.
 
I realize that money in politics seems like a bad thing but think about it...if there were no incentives put forth by large business we would not be able to attract the top people for political positions. In addition to help educating our lawmakers on the fine points of an issue, large companies donate large sums to campaigns. This is a dual benefit for all taxpayers. This prevents politicians spending millions of dollars of their own money to get a job that pays $100,000 per year it helps us attract the top people in industry to a career in politics. This is why we see the most qualified and talented people choosing public service or a lucrative career somewhere else. Be happy we have the system we have since we are all benefitting greatly from it.

Sorry but I actually had to LOL at your comment.
 
I have a couple responses to your post.

1) Lobbying in it's current form is not important because of it's ability to provide insight. In an ideal world, yes. However, in the real world it's power comes directly from the influence of money. I'm sure we'd both love for it to function as intended but it simply doesn't.

2) The key here is that just because donation from both individuals and corporations is protected by the first amendment (and Citizen's United), does not mean that it should be. These exchanges may not technically qualify as "bribery" but in many cases that's essentially what is happening. You claim this isn't bribery because the money received is not for personal use. If these donations are contributing to their incumbency then they are helping to guarantee the continuation of their salary as a congressman. This money is then of course available for personal use. It's a very indirect process but the outcome is the same: do what we say and you'll get the money. If you want lobbying to be a tool to provide politicians with a source of insight then money has to be removed from the equation. Likewise if you want elections to be fair, they must be run on equal budgets, no donations allowed.

The real problem with money as free speech lies in the inherent inequality of expressing opinions this way. All opinions should be valid and hold equivalent weight until facts either support or refute them. When one opinion is being expressed through a donation of $50,000 and another through a measly $5000, do those opinions hold equal weight in the mind of the individual "hearing" them?

Money must be removed from politics in order for it to function correctly. Until then elections will be decided by who has received the most donations and the impact of lobbying will be decided by how full it can keep politicians' pockets.
 
Milwaukee Mike says: "Giving money to your favorite politician is protected by the 1st Amendment. Because Freedom of Speech protects political expression, it also protects donating to someone's campaign."

That was an instance of very cute disingenuous obfuscation, of the sort which is currently dismantling and destroying the United States of America. Giving money to your favorite politician is NOT protected by the First Amendment. It is, instead, protected by the radical right-wing majority on the Supreme Court which has equated money with speech in order to protect, not speech, but how many times you will be subjected to some specific individual's speech under the provably correct theory that the more times you hear something, the more likely you are to believe it. The so-called 'Citizen's United' decision which equated money with speech did NOT protect donating to someone's campaign because that was not the issue at all. The actual issue was how much you may contribute to negate the contributions of others, and whether or not you can contribute unrestricted amounts of money in absolute secrecy so that the American public may not know who it is who is subjecting them to the brainwashing tactics...and our radical right-wing loons and fools, in order to destroy America, chose to give the very, very, very wealthy the right to brainwash all of us on a continual basis, but most especially during the period just prior to every election.

Money is not speech. Money, in general, does not even buy speech. When the very wealthy individual gives money to a politician, he does so with the understanding that the politician whose votes he is buying will listen very carefully to the employee of the contributor as time goes on, and that he will do as he's told. The money, therefore, buys legislation. Now, the politician has a personal interest in remaining in power because that is primarily why he is engaged in politics in the first place, so he takes the money meant to buy his votes and he spends it on subjecting us to canned, recorded messages of his godlike perfection and the absolute evil represented by his opponent(s). Generally speaking, there is no way to completely remove such corruption from the electoral process; but either that corruption can be magnified beyond any semblance of human sanity (as in the Citizen's United decision) and beyond the capacity of the nation to survive it, or it can be reduced to a very, very tiny minimum so that governance, and those doing the governing, would be mostly concerned with the impact of legislation on the people and the nation instead of the impact of legislation on the volume of money donated to pass the legislation.

Who's talking about the Citizen's United case? What did you do, bring that up so you could go off about it? So you hate conservatives.... lucky for you that the same laws apply to liberals. So Tom Steyer and George Soros can also donate as much as they want to 'buy legislation' as you put it. Notice how the Keystone pipeline is still in the lurch despite pretty much no one being against it except some billionaire liberal?

Did you know the ACLU actually agrees with me on this one? Crazy, huh?
https://www.aclu.org/free-speech/campaign-finance-reform
 
I love how someone said that this kind of thing attracts the best people for the roles of politicians. Those great people who, take bribes, earn way too much money, give themselves pay increases when the world economy collapses and everyone else takes a pay cut or loses a job completely. These great people who sell guns to the countries they then end up going to war with a few years later.
Most people at the top are just simply great liars. But how many of them up there do any good? Is the world improving?
And to the person who said these people get money for elections for ads, and don't buy a TV with it. Really? You don't think these clowns take a lil something something home with them? And just claim they spent $20000 on printers when really it was $200 and woo new curtains...
 
The change needs to be made. Corporations, and groups representing strictly CORPORATE interest have no place in Washington. It isn't about the instrest of the Corporations. This isn't a nation of the Corporations, it is a nation of the People.

Ban them. What's more any politician who takes money from a Corporate sponsor must at a minimum wear that sponsor's corporate label on his jacket in 3.5" print, in a ledgible location. No more hiding in the shadows who your serve, if it isn't your constituency it needs to be public who it is!
 
Another example of just how vulgar those SOB's are that sit in Congress.
 
You are wrong; with the new laws they can and do spend the money on anything they want. Look it up!
 
This kind of practice is nothing new, it happens everywhere. Politicians aren't in the business of doing anything good for everyone, they're in it for themselves and the money. There is no such thing as an honest politician anymore, they all became extinct long before the dinosaurs.
You always know politician are lying when their lips are moving.

That's the problem with career politicians. They go into politics to earn money, not to help people. You have a lot less power when your source of income is based in politics. It's sometimes controversial but I would rather have rich guys who already have power in office than a poor man with nothing. That way you know bribes are going to have less sway and they cannot be strong armed.
 
That's the problem with career politicians. They go into politics to earn money, not to help people. You have a lot less power when your source of income is based in politics. It's sometimes controversial but I would rather have rich guys who already have power in office than a poor man with nothing. That way you know bribes are going to have less sway and they cannot be strong armed.
If you're American or any 1st world country then your politics are way different to ours they're a lot more open, honest and mature. All our leaders were taken from jail and put in power, they have very little in the way of formal education but have a lot of street smarts and glib mouths so no matter how much money they earn now or what position they hold, they supplement it further with bribes and shady deals. It's the norm and seems to be acceptable in African politics.
That said, not all are tarred with the same brush but most are.
 
How do we still allow this practice? How does the phrase "Get money out of politics" turn into something people mumble whenever we see stories like this, yet no action ever takes place? We can't continue to function as a society where our politicians spend the vast majority of their time raising money rather than governing.

We've simply institutionalized bribery.
How would you go about selling 300,000,000 million people, one single person to lead them?

Ten bucks and a cardboard megaphone on a street corner?

Ideals are just wonderful things to crow about in an idealistic rapture. It's quite another issue altogether when the fact of the matter is, human nature trumps ideals every time. The meek aren't going to inherit the earth, they are going to have it ripped out from under them, like a cheap throw rug.

The joke is, those in charge teach people ideals, so they can use those same ideals to control them.

So, when you talk yourself into a position where you can take bribes and get away with it, send us a postcard. All the other politicians do, right before election time. In fact, the USPS has to carry that garbage for free.
 
My brother dave's att uverse internet went from $33 to $46 a month by default. The download speed went from 6 meg to 700 k too. I got him to 1.5 meg to $36 with great finegleing, a coupon and a promotion online. When is google putting in free free wifi?
 
We all complain about the corrupt, money-grubbing, self-serving politicians, but it is WE that are to blame for all of this because we either don't vote, or we put the same bastards right back in office. So whatever happens in politics, whether it effects us personally or not, you have no one to blame but yourself!!!
 
We all complain about the corrupt, money-grubbing, self-serving politicians, but it is WE that are to blame for all of this because we either don't vote, or we put the same bastards right back in office. So whatever happens in politics, whether it effects us personally or not, you have no one to blame but yourself!!!
Try to fix this in your mind; even if you do vote, you vote the same bums back in. It's simply because big money sold you them in the first place. In America, we never vote "for" someone, we vote against the other guy. With a choice between the lesser evil of two evils, evil is still evil. So, I've just effectively described the two party system.

"Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely". I'd venture to say, if any one of us were in power, it would corrupt us too.

So we stage a revolution, then what? If any of the last major revolutions are any indicator, you claim you want to follow the communist doctrine. What you actually get, are police states.

Of course some revolutions have resulted in "theocracies", which is a fancy word for, "God being used a scapegoat for a police state".
 
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There are always facts left out of comments as well. The fact that the Supreme Court ruled in effect that corporations are individuals, corporations also have 1st Amendment rights [what a sad and terrible decision] so they can pour millions into campaigns directly as well as PACS..obfuscating things even more.

I hope to see that decision reversed.
 
There are always facts left out of comments as well. The fact that the Supreme Court ruled in effect that corporations are individuals, corporations also have 1st Amendment rights [what a sad and terrible decision] so they can pour millions into campaigns directly as well as PACS..obfuscating things even more.

I hope to see that decision reversed.
That's kind of like me hoping not to find reindeer sh!t in my Christmas stocking again this year. Best wishes, and good luck with that, for your holiday season....:D
 
The only way to make democracy start to work in the US again is to ban any political contributions form any source but individual taxpayers. No corporate, union or special interest groups period.
 
There are always facts left out of comments as well. The fact that the Supreme Court ruled in effect that corporations are individuals, corporations also have 1st Amendment rights [what a sad and terrible decision] so they can pour millions into campaigns directly as well as PACS..obfuscating things even more.

I hope to see that decision reversed.
That's kind of like me hoping not to find reindeer sh!t in my Christmas stocking again this year. Best wishes, and good luck with that, for your holiday season....:D

Interestingly enough the Supreme Court choose to overturn campaign finance laws that have been in existence for nearly 80 years. While it is not unprecedented, those kinds of changes are usually given with a lengthy explanation followed by factual examples. Sadly, the court has become so stacked in favor of political organization and against the everyday man that a fair hearing seems nearly impossible and with the chief justice being so young we will be forced to live under this new age ternary for a long, long time.
 
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