By now all of you know what distro I have from posting so much . Though I'll tell you anyways, I'm useing OpenLinux 2.2. I'm running kernels 2.2.5 and 2.4.18 though ppp does not work with 2.4, so now im on 2.2 and trying to update ppp but im getting dirty little street corner ***** errors. The following is the errors im getting: when i type 'make': auth.o: In function 'check_passwd': auth.c: 973: Undefined reference to': 'crypt' auth.o In function 'plogin': auth.c: 1174: Undefined reference to 'crypt' chap_ms.o: In function 'DesEncrypt': chap_ms.c: 128: Undefined reference to': 'setkey' chap_ms.c: 135: Undefined reference to': 'encrypt' make: *** [pppd] error 1 make: Leave dir '/root/ppp-2.4.1/pppd' make: *** [all] Error 2 Hmm i read other forums with similar problems like this though they were older versions of ppp and they had a option in Makefile to uncomment a string if your getting 'crypt' errors. Though ppp-2.4.1 dosnt for some odd reason, maybe they think they fixed it? I added the extra line to see if it would work and no luck. I have Gnu make version 3.77. Any suggestions?!