Seagate unveils a 10TB hard drive designed for consumers

[midian182]

Thanks to their fast speeds, Solid States Drives are the storage device of choice for most consumers these days. But for those who need extra capacity, the price of SSDs can be an issue; Samsung’s “world’s largest SSD,” for example, is $1500 for the 4TB version.

So if you want an enormous drive that can hold an absolute ton of 4K videos, photos, and games, but you don’t want to pay well over a thousand dollars, then you’ll need a traditional hard disk drive. Step forward, Seagate, with the world’s largest consumer hard drive: the 10TB Barracuda Pro.

The $534.99 BarraCuda Pro is one of three new 10TB hard drives from Seagate's new Guardian series. The other two, the $469.99 IronWolf and $459.99 SkyHawk, are designed for NAS systems and video surveillance, respectively.

The Pro, which is for “everyday desktop computing and storage,” spins at 7200 RPM, has a 220MB/s “sustained transfer rate” and comes with 256MB of cache. It also has a 300TB/year workload limit (in 24×7 operation) and a five-year warranty.

There are non-Pro versions of the Barracuda available, which are presumably cheaper. These offer a slightly slower 210MB/s transfer rate, a 55TB/year workload limit, and a two-year warranty.

Seagate launched its first helium-filled 10TB hard disk drives back in January, but those are primarily designed for datacenters and other enterprise applications, unlike the consumer-targeted BarraCuda Pro.

Seagate announced better than expected financial results for its fourth quarter last week, thanks to a higher than anticipated demand for hard drives. Unfortunately, the company revealed it would be cutting 6500 jobs as consumers and enterprise customers start turning toward cloud and flash storage solutions.

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[Skidmarksdeluxe]

10TB? And to think I only use about a quarter of the storage on my 1TB drive.

 

[VitalyT]

So if you want an enormous drive that can hold an absolute ton of 4K videos

This is over-optimistic. I got 2 x 3TB drives 2.5 years ago, and even though 99% of movies I got are either 720P or 1080P, those two drives filled to the brim in just 2 years.

My movie downloads average 15MB/s, so filling up 10TB with 4K movies, it will take less than a year, with my average usage

It was only once when my provider tried to kick me when a single-month download reached 2.5TB. I mean, if I weren't throwing away the 90% junk they make these days, I'd need a 100TB drive to survive

 

[Kibaruk]

Great news although I must agree, 1 tb is enough for most users, there are some that never delete whatever crap they put on though.

The only issue I have with this drive is that it's seagate, sadly they've made a name on the unreliable drives.

 

[EClyde]

So if you want an enormous drive that can hold an absolute ton of 4K videos

This is over-optimistic. I got 2 x 3TB drives 2.5 years ago, and even though 99% of movies I got are either 720P or 1080P, those two drives filled to the brim in just 2 years.

My movie downloads average 15MB/s, so filling up 10TB with 4K movies, it will take less than a year, with my average usage

It was only once when my provider tried to kick me when a single-month download reached 2.5TB. I mean, if I weren't throwing away the 90% junk they make these days, I'd need a 100TB drive to survive

What do you do with those movies?

 

[lipe123]

So if you want an enormous drive that can hold an absolute ton of 4K videos

This is over-optimistic. I got 2 x 3TB drives 2.5 years ago, and even though 99% of movies I got are either 720P or 1080P, those two drives filled to the brim in just 2 years.

My movie downloads average 15MB/s, so filling up 10TB with 4K movies, it will take less than a year, with my average usage

It was only once when my provider tried to kick me when a single-month download reached 2.5TB. I mean, if I weren't throwing away the 90% junk they make these days, I'd need a 100TB drive to survive

People still (probably illegally) download movies and store them offline?! why would anyone bother with that when you can stream almost everything now in 1080 for affordable prices.

Still I'm sorry but Seagate sucks and need to address their insanely high failure rate, for every 1 WD hdd that fails in our store we see 10 Seagate drives fail. Would never trust 10Tb to a single Seagate drive ever.
I'd rather go buy a lot of 2Tb drives for a NAS.

 

[Darth Shiv]

So if you want an enormous drive that can hold an absolute ton of 4K videos

This is over-optimistic. I got 2 x 3TB drives 2.5 years ago, and even though 99% of movies I got are either 720P or 1080P, those two drives filled to the brim in just 2 years.

My movie downloads average 15MB/s, so filling up 10TB with 4K movies, it will take less than a year, with my average usage

It was only once when my provider tried to kick me when a single-month download reached 2.5TB. I mean, if I weren't throwing away the 90% junk they make these days, I'd need a 100TB drive to survive

What do you do with those movies?

They are like Pokemon. Gotta catch em all!

 

[Darth Shiv]

Still I'm sorry but Seagate sucks and need to address their insanely high failure rate, for every 1 WD hdd that fails in our store we see 10 Seagate drives fail. Would never trust 10Tb to a single Seagate drive ever.
I'd rather go buy a lot of 2Tb drives for a NAS.

lol yes let's see how these drives go for reliability before putting anything valuable on a Seagate drive...

 

[Business Direct]

I was going to reply the the shill that cherry picked the Seagate image but it looks like his post is deleted. Anyway this is the image he scrolled by:
http://I.imgur.com/WfUQ3FR.jpg

From personal experience I used the barracuda line until I had a 1.5TB drive fail after 18 months. It's replacement, another 1.5TB drive failed after 8 months. The last and final drive from them, a barracuda 3TB, failed after 4 months. I should have learned sooner but I didn't.

 

[psp100travis]

I was going to reply the the shill that cherry picked the Seagate image but it looks like his post is deleted. Anyway this is the image he scrolled by:
http://I.imgur.com/WfUQ3FR.jpg

From personal experience I used the barracuda line until I had a 1.5TB drive fail after 18 months. It's replacement, another 1.5TB drive failed after 8 months. The last and final drive from them, a barracuda 3TB, failed after 4 months. I should have learned sooner but I didn't.

I have a 1.5TB drive from Seagate that I put in a original Xbox and it's still working fine after close to 5 years. The first 2 years it was my backup drive in my main pc.

 

[Raoul Duke]

I have 12.5 TB in the case right now. It's neither porn nor 'stuff I forgot to delete'. Can't fill them up 100% or performance suffers, need space for defragmenting. Unfortunately all ports full, any new drive I buy has to replace one inside already. Just my music is over 1 TB.

 

[BMfan]

I was going to reply the the shill that cherry picked the Seagate image but it looks like his post is deleted. Anyway this is the image he scrolled by:
http://I.imgur.com/WfUQ3FR.jpg

From personal experience I used the barracuda line until I had a 1.5TB drive fail after 18 months. It's replacement, another 1.5TB drive failed after 8 months. The last and final drive from them, a barracuda 3TB, failed after 4 months. I should have learned sooner but I didn't.

This was the image,and the only reason I am showing it is because I obviously have had very good luck with Seagate drives.

 

[toooooot]

Eh...Seagate... I bet it would go nicely with 1 year warranty .
I demand 10 years though. It is time they learn to make drives that can last at least 5 years again, or bury this dying tech

 

[SirGCal]

Problem with any average user and their storage:

1) purchase drive
2) throw it in and start using it
3) it craps out they bark.

They never did what I consider the most important step - TESTING the new drive. I never introduce a new drive into my systems without first testing it. I redid a server a few years back, need to do it again now, out of room (all legally owned material, no pirating here).

I like to keep everything so I have tons of local storage. Currently 36TB over 2 servers. Last server was made from 4TB Seagate drives. But I had to go through 22 drives to get 8 to pass the pre-install tests. Since then, working great so far.

Places ship drives in the most UNGODLY ways. As well as some wild manufacturing practices... But shipping is so evil lately for these drives. Even when purchased/send BY the manufacturer, they just can't control UPS, FEDEX, USPS, etc. They try to make secure packaging, but then you purchase an OEM drive and the shipper wraps it in a package of bubblewrap... Seriously?!?

Simply test your drives first and/or exchange them (repeatedly). Once you get a good one to start with, frustrations go way down. I have still had failures sure, but the few dozens of drives I go through in a year or three are nothing to the hundreds/thousands by other companies. Being a user, I can't stress just testing your new drives before putting your new images or movies on it and trusting it what-so-ever. Simple test, just takes some time.

AND EVEN THEN, do not trust it as gospel for not losing data. If it's important enough, back it up!

I unfortunately can't but use redundant RAID6 setups so I have to lose 3 drives at once to lose data. It can happen but hopefully won't between builds. Also keeping newer systems in place (don't use that 10 year old drive to hold new files and trust it to last forever). Rebuild them once or twice a decade. That's the cost of big data ownership. Going to keep it, want to keep it as safe as reasonably possible? There ya go. Want to trust your new portable 4TB drrive? Did you test it? Will it survive the week? Year? etc? If you tested it, still no guarantee, but at least you know you're not working on already crippled hardware as TOO MANY people do from the start.

 

[Uncle Al]

I guess the jury is still out on Seagate. I have one of their 2TB drives running in my server for just over a year now and it's doing fine, but I still back it up regularly. Not sure that I would want to risk 10TB of data and perhaps I'm being a bit paranoid, but still, old habits die hard and I'm not just quite ready to give them 100% of my trust .... or my data.....

 

[Kibaruk]

I know, but there was a while back some stats from a datacenter that showed the drives that fails the most, and where always topped by Seagate... maybe that left a bad impression on my end, I have never had any issues with WD or Samsung but that might be only me

 

[Squid Surprise]

Seagate doesn't fail any more then any other brand nowadays.... no need for all the Seagate hate anymore...

I've got a couple of their 6TB drives and a 4TB drive as well running fine in my case.... got plenty of slots available, might toss a couple of these in next year...

 

[SirGCal]

Seagate doesn't fail any more then any other brand nowadays.... no need for all the Seagate hate anymore...

I've got a couple of their 6TB drives and a 4TB drive as well running fine in my case.... got plenty of slots available, might toss a couple of these in next year...

I have servers using Seagate drives, but unfortunately that doesn't negate the truth which is, what you said there isn't true. Out of the 4 major remaining magnet storage manufacturers, they are 3rd/4th depending on product.

HGST is 1st with Toshiba 2nd (tied for 4th on 4TB drives but a much smaller sampling then the others so it could be batch-related (2013-2015)). WD is the other competitor for the tail. (ironic they own HGST, thank GOD they don't control their process. Hopefully they learn from it though, whatever it is. It might just be a super shipping method...) But their current year, none of the HTST 8TB or Seatgate 6TB drives have yet failed (knock on wood), WDC has lost some of their 6TB drives with a FAR smaller count to start with also. https://www.backblaze.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/blog-table-q1-2016-only.jpg

Or look at Q4 last year 0.85% Seagate vs over 7% for WDC's 6TB options. Again with a smaller test base even, lost far more drives. https://www.backblaze.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/blog-6tb-drive-stats.png

Still as with 3TB and lower drives being horrid products in too many cases, every manufacturer can simply have a bad product. Look at the earlier 4TB Seagate drives vs the new ones. Good example there. But they were also able to fix it. I'm not a huge Seagate fan, I do have servers running their hardware and can't afford HGST so easily, but I also test my drives before use. I do still have some WD drives, and honestly their older drives were far superior to what they do today (or did in the middle anyhow). Speaking as the whole.

But yes, there is a superior HDD manufacturer right now, everyone else is very far out of the box honestly. HGST wins hands down and it's hard to argue the facts. The other 3 fight for what's left and newer products in old and new formats are proving to push towards improvement, but still not quite close to what HGST has done for some time. Not yet anyhow.

 

[fktech]

I haven't had a single HDD or SSHD failure in about 10 years - WD and Seagate are my HDs of choice. Shout out to Toshiba and HGST as well. I buy based on purpose, how I am using the drive, e.g., laptop, desktop, server, video editing, etc., and then capability / price BUT price is really important to my final decision. Exception was a constantly on and recording WD Green drive in a 6 year old TiVo that started to corrupt recordings. Replaced it with a newer WD Green and still repurposed the old drive for removable backup storage after isolating the "bad" sectors.

Would love to try 11 10T Seagate HDDs and 1 2TB Samsung SSHD in a DiskStation DS2415+ server. Anyone willing to "GoFundMe" on that one?

What would I do with it you ask, Anything I want!

 

[voyaz76]

I was going to reply the the shill that cherry picked the Seagate image but it looks like his post is deleted. Anyway this is the image he scrolled by:
http://I.imgur.com/WfUQ3FR.jpg

From personal experience I used the barracuda line until I had a 1.5TB drive fail after 18 months. It's replacement, another 1.5TB drive failed after 8 months. The last and final drive from them, a barracuda 3TB, failed after 4 months. I should have learned sooner but I didn't.

How about showing an up to date data?
https://www.backblaze.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/drive-stats-2016-q1-failure-by-mfg.jpg

 

[Geforcepat]

Well more room for more pr0n eh?

 

[Kibaruk]

How about showing an up to date data?
https://www.backblaze.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/drive-stats-2016-q1-failure-by-mfg.jpg

Thank you for this! HGST sample is huge and the numbers are strong, definitely next one I'll get will be HGST (I know also to stay clear of 3TB since those tend to be the ones to perish more often).

 

[DaveBG]

LOL the barracuda ... the nightmare for so many people... we will never forget!

 

[MarkAB]

Any suggestions? I have two Seagate drives, both have Master File Table Corrupted, including their backups. Cannot find a source to resurrect these two 1TB drives. Since windows doesn't recognize these drives (both 1.5 years old) considering Linux to get the information out. I am in the process of building two new computers, and honestly have had little to no problems with SSD's, so I am only purchasing SSD and using a older disk drive as a backup.
As far as long term warranty, one problem is (10 years ago) spoke to Seagate about TVS (transient voltage protectors) chip that drives any spurious signal from the pwr to gnd. That was one of the major problems with low cost pwr supplies destroying disk drives. Unfortunately, never did get the business since economics says' 20 Million drives X .065 means $130K out of pocket.

 

[Kibaruk]

So I would start by not using "a older drive" and go with the newest more efficient and better built drives, they won't set you back that much since they are really cheap nowadays. If you want technical support and or technical help, you should look for a technical forum on drives or even on Techspot Forums but hardware section.