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So you only have PCI slots and want to game?

Discussion in 'Audio and Video' started by vnf4ultra, Jun 2, 2006.

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  1. electromagnetic TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 187

    jojodancer how easy was it to install processor with heat sink and fan, PSU, and cables.
  2. jojodancer TechSpot Member Posts: 70

    very easy. Make sure you don't rush yourself. Most of the manuals / illustrations are very easy to understand. If you don't understand, do a Google or YouTube searches. Many manufacturers have uploaded the installation instructions on Youtube.

    Only mobo manual is a bit more to read. But they are fun.
  3. electromagnetic TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 187

    Cool story bro.

    Is it that easy. What's the difference between PCI and PCI Express x16
  4. jojodancer TechSpot Member Posts: 70

    performance wise?

    lets say my Dell 2400 with Gefore 5500 PCI runs COD2 around 20-30+ FPS, my new box runs COD Modern Warfare 2 around 100 - 200+ FPS......
  5. jojodancer TechSpot Member Posts: 70

    silly thing is that those 1GB PCI cards run around $80 to $90 bucks, and the not-yet-high-end cards (like HD5770, 5750 or 4650) run like $170 to under $100. So if you have a PCI16 slot and a decent CPU and RAM, get those!
  6. PGHammer Newcomer, in training

    Vista or 7 x64 "Period" (Aand Why)

    I wouuld have gone with 7 Ultimate x64 regardless regardless.

    I built this current setup (Celeron DC E1200, ASUS P5N-EM HDMI, HIS HD3450 PCIe graphics, 3 GB DDR2) and, except for some benchmarking, I have refused to run a 32-bit operating system on it except in a VM. And that is despite starting with 2 GB at build time, and having only 3 GB now.

    The why is surprising to some - stability when multitasking.

    I do game; however, I tend to prefer RTS games as opposed to shooters. SupCom and C&C 3, RA3, or the beta version of C&C 4 (which I am in) notwithstanding, RTS games usually have LOWER graphical requirements than shooters. Though I primarily sandbox (as opposed to playing online), like any online gamer, I tend to have multiple applications (x64-friendly if not x64 themselves) running in the background. Surprisingly, those that play shooters online run more (not fewer) applications online than the strategy gamer (Team Fortress and TF2 especially; however, the same can be said for ETQW or ETCW as well). With that being the case, why would you NOT want the additional isolation hat the WOW64 thunk layer brings to a game, especially if the penalty it brings is either minimal or none? (In most cases, there is NO performance penalty in running a x32 game in an x64 version of Windows, despite WOW64.)
     
  7. electromagnetic TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 187

    After advertising the 9500GT here, it's sold out


    :suspiciou


    :mad: :mad:
  8. godson Newcomer, in training Posts: 40

  9. Tha General TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,220

    He doesn't have to go to all that trouble, all he has to do is buy a solid nice prebuilt rig and buy a nice cheap pcie card and he will be gaming very good.
  10. godson Newcomer, in training Posts: 40

    Well.. he will save him more money.. but anyways its up to him..
  11. teklord TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 523

    I already suggested that some time ago and it wasn't well received. Didn't like cutting their PCI-e x1 slot to make a PCI-e x16 card fit through it. Don't kill the messenger...
  12. PeterO Newcomer, in training

    Can I play 1080p HD (rips) using an nvidia with CUDA but through PCI slot

    Hi!

    Everything is in the title.

    I have agp, but no nvidia+CUDA for AGP, so I thought what about PCI.

    At all, can I use CUDA (or purevideoHD, point is using GPU to decode 1080p x264) with these PCI versions of nvidia cards?

    Thx!
  13. jojodancer TechSpot Member Posts: 70

    I think you can but depends on how many GPU RAM that you have.
  14. PeterO Newcomer, in training

    It's just my plan, i did not do so far. Just gathering information.

    Any other advices?
  15. jojodancer TechSpot Member Posts: 70

    am back!

    saw a Geforce 6200 PCI from EVA. Has anyone used this card before?
  16. teklord TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 523

    That card is weak and old. An improvement over many people's onboard but not much else. Windows should load faster with it though, mine did with my FX5500.
  17. Tha General TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,220

    I had both the BFG 6200 OC 256mb card and the Evga 6200 pci card. The BFG 6200 Overclock edition is the best version, mostly because it has a fan and is slightly faster. The EVGA 6200 is the worse, no fan, heats up really quick, seriously. I will just grab the 6200 from bfg its one of the best cards i have own. Just make sure you use the 81.98 drivers. :)
  18. Yukikaze Newcomer, in training Posts: 87

    Nobody should buy a GF6200 in 2010. It doesn't matter which one is "better", they are all crap. A 8400GS PCI is well under 50$ now and is better than any of those 6200s.

    Christ.
  19. Tha General TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,220

    Neither 6200 or 8400gs is worth buying, how about that ok. I had all of those pci cards, the 8400gs is only about 15% faster, depending on your rig 20% faster, but overall, i wouldn't suggest anyone to buy any pci cards. But if the person is only able to get pci, get a 9500gt or find the 8600gt.
  20. Technochicken TechSpot Paladin Posts: 900

    I bought an 8400gs recently for a HTPC, and I would say they are definitely worth getting. You say to get the 9500, but look at the price difference. the 8400gs can be had for 40$, while the 9500 and 9400 both start at about twice that much, if not more. With those cards, you are paying twice as much for what probably ammounts to only a couple FPS faster.