So you only have PCI slots and want to game?

I wouldn't say outdated but the lineup will certainly shift when the 6000 series cards debut. I picked up a Powercolor pcs+ 5850 on Newegg as an open box item for $245 shipped about a month ago. The thing is ridiculously fast. I expect it to be able to handle most new and upcoming games for quite some time yet. Just personal speculation but I don't believe that the 6000 series is going to provide a huge performance jump over the 5000 series. More than likely the biggest gains will be in efficiency as they are moving to the 28nm fab process, which should make for some very cool running and power efficient cards. Good to see Nvidia providing some competition with the GTX 460 as well.

I'm glad my PCI days are over. This 5850 paired with my 955 cpu is a dream compared to using my old Dells, though I still have 2 of them running using PCI cards. They do well with web video and older games but to play anything released within the last few years will absolutely require an upgrade.

When I say outdated, I mean they aren't going to be the latest cutting edge tech anymore. I buy stuff that isn't bleeding edge to save money but is still relevant like the GTX 285 I just bought. Great price on something that is slightly less powerful than this years GPUs but still highly useful.

PCI GPU cards help old systems run faster over onboard, but don't do a great deal more.

I hear ya. I tend to wait as well. It's hard to justify spending tons of money on the latest and greatest when prices are certain to fall within a few months. That 285 is still a very good card.

Another new pci card

http://www.albatron.com.tw/English/product/vga/pro_detail.asp?rlink=Specification&no=321

Another one, PCI 3450 Visiontek

http://www.visiontek.com/dms59-cards/radeon-hd-3450/radeon-hd-3450-pci-sff.html

Probably wont see much difference from the 9500GT.

I posted something here and it got deleted.
Low profile cards cause blue screens.

:suspiciou

Low profile cards cause blue screens? That's quite a generalization. The low profile cards are almost exactly the same as the regular sized one, but with a little less space between components on the PCB.

I sent albatron a email asking them where to get a 8600gt, but no word. I am going to have to go back to the market show and request it, special order, because i really want that rare 8600gt pci card.

No, blue screen can be cause by alot of stuff, bad drivers, wrong setups, etc.
Hey Electromagnetic any word on any new hardware or cards you're buying?

Btw what is your youtube page again, i lost it.

A Zotac card can't say it will get deleted.

My youtube page is energybot.

Ok type parity error dell 3100, that's all.

I will like to get a pci express x1 card or barebones but not yet.

Duke nukem forever. . Coming out next year 100% correct.

Tha general why you keep changing your youtube pages dude, you an actor.

I recently modified my old 8500 gt to fit x1 slots by cutting off the extra pins. It was really easy, and works perfectly well. Instead of buying a more expensive x1, you might want to just get a cheap x16 card and do what I did.

Technochicken what card did you use and for what computer a Dell ?

I don't know how to cut the pins off. Do I use a scissors or waht else.

I suggested to cut off some of the pins on a cheap x16 card or cut the back end off the x1 slot on the mobo a long time ago, but it didn't resonate. That is what I would do as well. If I couldn't save somehow for better computers parts or a better prebuilt.

The PCI bus is more than 100% saturated, PCI is for sound cards but not video cards.

I'm looking to SLI two GTX 470's on a i7 950 system. I've come a long way from the P4 + 5500FX I first posted with in this thread.

a dremel tool with a thin cutoff wheel works very well if you have a steady hand or set up a fence to butt up against.

I actually scored the pins deeply on both sides with an exacto knife, and then just snapped them off with pliers. I was a little worried about using a dremel, as it sprays bits everywhere and I did not want anything to short out.

I have not shorted anything out using the dremel, but you're the MacGuyver of TS so i will suggest he goes with the xacto:wave:

Thanks red

Whatever method you choose to use, just make sure to do a practice run on an old PCI modem card or something similar first. I'll post a picture of mine in the TS gallery in a couple minutes as an example.


*edit*

Do you mean this to cut off the connectors.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utility_knife

Also pick a card for me to get here.
http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/

I am using a old dell 230 psu remember.

On the side to cut off how do i know it will be exact fit in the x1 slot. I am no wizard.

Yep, one of those knives.

As to which card, what is your budget? An HD 4550 would give similar performance to my 8500, and costs 35$, and only draws about 25 watts.

energybot, oh nevermind i am already on your page. lol.

Anyways, you said to help you pick?

IMO, i would buy one of those Intel Mb the intel e3300 and pick up a cheap PCIEX16 card?

I don't even see any pcix1 cards on that site