So you only have PCI slots and want to game?

I am forgetting the cut down card, don't want the dell going KO.


Barebones is the best or it seems expensive to build your own there.

I want to know fully how to add and remove a power cable from mobo.

Also the system fan cable to the mobo.


In the link I posted they build barebones and you add other parts.

Well just tell them what you want and watch them build it/add it by showing you how and what to do. Also, i would grab a Intel e3300 and a decent PCIEX16 card. Better to save up for that, and let pci cards go, trust me i know.

It's not hard building your own PC as long as you know what you are doing. What you are asking here is plugging and unplugging the power cables from the PSU to the mobo. The CPU fan port should be labeled on the mobo near the CPU slot as well. PC building is mostly plug and play. My i7 CPU fan was a PITA to install though.

My current rig pwns the Celeron I used to have when I first posted in this thread by a quantum leap.

New pci card

They're still making PCI cards, the first DX11 PCI card

http://www.hisdigital.com/us/product2-580.shtml

totally wasted. none of the machine with only PCI slots could keep up with any DX10 or 11 games.

As a long time user of PCI, hey PCI cards sucks, but its nice to see more of them. I still want a Albatron 8600gt as a collectors item, and one day i will have it. I would love to test out the card out on my 1035t six core.

I'll order that new PCI card ASAP so I can replace my SLI'ed GTX 470's. Can't wait for games to go from 60 FPS locked to about 0-5 FPS locked, LOL. Boy, I would love to play WoW with that, server lag brings FPS even on my rig down to 15 FPS at times, would be 0 with that card. Reminds me of when I played games like Dungeon Siege on my Socket 478 Celeron with Intel onboard graphics @ a screaming 0-2 FPS in the later levels..

I doubt there is much actual real world performance difference between the HD 5450 PCI and the 8500GT PCI. The bandwidth is fully saturated now, you can't push any more data through.

Man, PCI-e 3.0 is about to come out and they are still pushing PCI cards. Those things should be $25 bucks for people that want to run Windows faster, that is it.

Yea all pci cards should cost about 25-30 dollars now, not sure why they keep selling them near 100 bucks. If the card was 25 bucks, i would buy it, just for a collectors item and to do some testing on it. Oh well, good to see more of them tho.

The words "Extreme Perseverance" come to mind with that quote.

Based on my experience on a Dell 2400, best PCI card has to be 256mb max!

Bottleneck syndrome will prevail after 256mb !!!!!

btw, i think this is a very good deal. forget about gaming, this chip will boost up your computer to play blu-ray discs

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002B7JFYC/ref=ord_cart_shr?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER

I never got a bottleneck when using PCI cards, well i did once, that was only because my computer back than didn't support usb 2.0, and when i put in a PCI 2.1 card to connect to my 500GB external HD, that is when the bottleneck started. But PCI cards ran just fine over the years i was using them with games. Fine as in " ok for a pci card ".

Mine does. Only FX5200 256mb works best!!!!!!

The rest.....depressingly under 10 FPS :0

Thing is, I didn't know nearly as much about PCs back then, so while that was really bad but it wasn't BAD BAD like it would be now on my current right now. The world would disappear because my onboard couldn't render it without a video card.

My 8500GT 512MB was about twice as powerful in games as my FX5200 256MB was and both were PCI. Somehow, it did help to upgrade to the more powerful card but games still ran poorly on that old Socket 478 machine.

Yeah, for some strong reason, it hurts really bad when you take steps back in computers. Some of the stuff we put up with in our early years can be unreal when you think about it. Not just general PC's either, it works with stuff like the PS2 after being on an XBox or it's offspring the PS3....It's like coming down off a night on some hard drugs or something (not that i would know, obviously )

I had an FX5200 myself a few years back, some of the "red eye" nights i spent on the sims with that takes me back. Thats just about all it deserves from me though, because it was crap like you say.

2D games like Sims or Diablo II is all you should use PCI cards for, other than giving Windows a boost.

I ran my old 2400HD on my dual core a few days ago, horrible experience, everything was moving in slow motion lol , desktop, typing, you name it. i think the card is dying tho, good memories tho.
PCI lives on.

Just got done playing BFBC2 and it takes every ounce of my i7 950 + GTX 470 in SLI for it to run maxed. I can't even play it with max settings and 8xAA for it to be locked @ 60 FPS, 4xAA is the max I can do even with my setup. You can play next to nothing with a PCI card, I couldn't even play AvP 2 from 2000 without it running below 30 FPS all the time.

that was prob more your cpu

i had my frineds old rig over hear and i installed most wanted on it, broke out the old x1550 PCI card and tested it with his celeron at 3.6ghz with 256kb of L2, and it lost when i put in a 2.66ghz pentium 4 with 512kb of L2, those celerons suck for gaming period, the new dual cores ain't bad but still 1mb of L2 is so 2006. anyway with that p4 and the x1550 slightly OC'd it maxed out at 1024x768 (monitor max)

I had a intel celeron e3300, the new celerons are completely different.

Haha, nice to see this thread is still chugging along. I had the unpleasant experience of having to put a PCI GeForce FX5200 in a SFF Dell Optiplex. Albeit horrifically slow, it still manages to run Windows Aero desktop at about 20 frames per second. :haha:

PCI still lives (as long as ATi / AMD keeps making cards).