Study shows Tesla owners have most car accidents, but Ram has the worst drivers

[WhoCaresAnymore]

Why isn't anyone commenting on the HUGE center console/entertainment center in these newer cars. They are much worse than phones.

Truck drivers where I live, drive like crap and are typically rednecks. Can see why they are high on the list.

 

[BabaYaga]

It s not really linked to the car, but to the type of owners attracted to a specific brand.

- BMW drivers are younger, full of themselves who usually don't care about the others. They own a BMW so they own the road... live fast, die young kind of approach. These professionals need to drive in elegance while going to these afterhours.

- RAM is mainly trucks and their customers are engine enthusiasts. Manly men, so get out of their way. They are usually the ones trying to drive you out of the road when you are in the left line on the highway while trying to pass another vehicle. If they do an accident, they don't care because they will likely survive, but not you.

- Tesla are driven by people who believe in the cause. They know little about cars and have little driving experience. It is one of the brand that attract a lot of female customers.

See, when you dig a little bit, you understand those stats have nothing to do with the brand itself, more the people relating to those brands.

That is some terrible generilization.

All the Tesla drivers I know are car guys who love the new technology. Go on Teslaforums and see. I've done countless mods to my previous Camaros. Drivetrain, engine, transmission and suspension. You're maybe mixing it up with early Prius drivers. Tesla drivers love advanced technology. The only "cause" I got the car for is to go 0-60 in 3.6s. haha

On top of this, a lot have Tesla insurance which dings you for driving at night, following too closely, emergency braking, etc. With all the cameras recording how you're driving, I rarely see a Tesla driving like a jerk.

BMW drivers around here are mostly well to do middle aged to older people. You're also mixing up the 5-10y old BMW that young kids get to look cool.

I raraly see any RAMs in the city. It's mainly a rural thing.

 

[BabaYaga]

Study shows Tesla owners have most car accidents, but Ram has the worst drivers
And BMW owners have the most DUIs
By Rob Thubron

First graph shows RAM as the most. Rage-bait headline? RAM won't give you as many clicks?

 

[dirtyferret]

Luckily us Yugo owners have no worries about getting into accidents since the cars don't move

 

[Hotlynx16]

It s not really linked to the car, but to the type of owners attracted to a specific brand.

- BMW drivers are younger, full of themselves who usually don't care about the others. They own a BMW so they own the road... live fast, die young kind of approach. These professionals need to drive in elegance while going to these afterhours.

- RAM is mainly trucks and their customers are engine enthusiasts. Manly men, so get out of their way. They are usually the ones trying to drive you out of the road when you are in the left line on the highway while trying to pass another vehicle. If they do an accident, they don't care because they will likely survive, but not you.

- Tesla are driven by people who believe in the cause. They know little about cars and have little driving experience. It is one of the brand that attract a lot of female customers.

See, when you dig a little bit, you understand those stats have nothing to do with the brand itself, more the people relating to those brands.

Yeah, RAM drivers want to "RAM" you out the way!

 

[BadThad]

A completely and utterly worthless set of stats! This means NOTHING.

 

[dmatheson]

It s not really linked to the car, but to the type of owners attracted to a specific brand.

- BMW drivers are younger, full of themselves who usually don't care about the others. They own a BMW so they own the road... live fast, die young kind of approach. These professionals need to drive in elegance while going to these afterhours.

- RAM is mainly trucks and their customers are engine enthusiasts. Manly men, so get out of their way. They are usually the ones trying to drive you out of the road when you are in the left line on the highway while trying to pass another vehicle. If they do an accident, they don't care because they will likely survive, but not you.

- Tesla are driven by people who believe in the cause. They know little about cars and have little driving experience. It is one of the brand that attract a lot of female customers.

See, when you dig a little bit, you understand those stats have nothing to do with the brand itself, more the people relating to those brands.

"- Tesla are driven by people who believe in the cause. They know little about cars and have little driving experience. It is one of the brand that attract a lot of female customers." Misogyny much? from Hedges and Co. "Tesla owners skew 74% male." From MarketWatch, "In general, car insurance companies charge male drivers more for coverage because they're more likely to get into accidents."

 

[WhoCaresAnymore]

Luckily us Yugo owners have no worries about getting into accidents since the cars don't move

My wife had one out of high school. Believe it or not, that was the best little car, she paid 3k for it used, only had a few thousand miles on it. Lasted 6 years without any breakdowns. Was a fun little POS to drive.

 

[waclark]

The prevalence is normalized to per 1,000 so it allows you to compares rates of high populations to low populations.

Except there's no guarantee that the accident rates are linear when comparing one vehicle to another. Especially when the demographic of the drivers varies so much.

 

[nnguy2]

Except there's no guarantee that the accident rates are linear when comparing one vehicle to another. Especially when the demographic of the drivers varies so much.

But that's the thing. You normalize the rate, in this case using per thousands, to account for differences in populations of cars, and then you can directly compare the rates of how many accidents a particular brand has. Demographics matter when you want to understand who the drivers are.

Scenario: there are 20,000 Pontiac cars. The total number of accidents involving Pontiac drivers who were at fault (they caused the accident) was 45,000. 45,000/20,000=2.5 accidents per 1,000 for Pontiacs. Let's compare to 2,500 Teslas involving 7,500 accidents where the Telsa's drivers were at fault. You have 7,500/2,500 = 3 accidents per 1,000 for Teslas.

Even though Tesla's population was only 2,500 vs 20,000 Pontiacs you can normal the rate per 1,000. In this example, Tesla drivers had more accidents per population (in 1,000s). Now if you want to investigate WHO the drivers of those brands are you look at age, income, sex, etc.

 

[waclark]

But that's the thing. You normalize the rate, in this case using per thousands, to account for differences in populations of cars, and then you can directly compare the rates of how many accidents a particular brand has. Demographics matter when you want to understand who the drivers are.

Scenario: there are 20,000 Pontiac cars. The total number of accidents involving Pontiac drivers who were at fault (they caused the accident) was 45,000. 45,000/20,000=2.5 accidents per 1,000 for Pontiacs. Let's compare to 2,500 Teslas involving 7,500 accidents where the Telsa's drivers were at fault. You have 7,500/2,500 = 3 accidents per 1,000 for Teslas.

Even though Tesla's population was only 2,500 vs 20,000 Pontiacs you can normal the rate per 1,000. In this example, Tesla drivers had more accidents per population (in 1,000s). Now if you want to investigate WHO the drivers of those brands are you look at age, income, sex, etc.

The point is that if you have 10x the number of Tesla drivers doesn't mean the accident rate would be 10x the numbers found here. Per capita rates favor larger populations. Take murder rates, California likes to tout that they have a lower murder rate than other states, but when looking at raw numbers, Cali has more murders than any other state. They just look better because they have a larger population.

 

[nnguy2]

The point is that if you have 10x the number of Tesla drivers doesn't mean the accident rate would be 10x the numbers found here. Per capita rates favor larger populations. Take murder rates, California likes to tout that they have a lower murder rate than other states, but when looking at raw numbers, Cali has more murders than any other state. They just look better because they have a larger population.

you don't understand rates (events per person) and I can't help you any further.