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Discussion in 'Processors and Motherboards' started by StormBringer, Jul 11, 2002.

  1. swker98 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,348

  2. zephead TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,483

    this was arguable back in the mid-90's, but is by no means currently a generally valid statement.
  3. mailpup TS Special Forces Posts: 7,906   +77

    swker98, those pins on the motherboard are mostly for PC case connections, like the on/off switch, reset switch, power on led, hd activity led, internal speaker, etc. Mostly things on the front of most cases.
  4. noaaK Newcomer, in training

    Video cards and video chipset

    How is video chipset from motherboard different from video cards ?. My motherbooard has built-in Intel GMA900 onboard graphics subsystem. Is it duplication if I install ATI's Radeon 9600XT 254MB Ram ?
  5. Tedster Techspot old timer..... Posts: 10,047   +11

    Video capabilities built into motherbaords are almost always inferior to video cards.
    They usually do not have high rendering capabilities, nor do their use their own memory (they use computer memory). MB memory is slower than on board card memory. They tend to be slower. It's fine for general purpose use, but not for serious video output like games and high-resolution video programs.

    It's best to go with a video card if you want to play games. Get at least 256MB of memory on the card with AGP 8, or PCI-E depending what your motherboard will accept.

    If you have video on your motherboard, you will have to turn it off in BIOS when installing a card.
  6. hatchmar Newcomer, in training Posts: 52

    I guess the thing I am confused about when building a new system is installing the software/drivers for everything. If every component comes with a CD, and there isnt a CD drive yet, and the CD drive has an installation CD, how in the world do i get the software on the machine? I have all the parts and am ready to go but Ima scaaaared. lol
     
  7. Tedster Techspot old timer..... Posts: 10,047   +11

    You need a CD/DVD rom. That's an essential component of modern computers.
    Without one, the only way to get the correct drivers is to download them off of the manufactuer's website, or download it off the website from a friend's computer onto a large enough flash drive or portable media.

    OR do a windows update and hope the microsoft has the correct drivers.
  8. hatchmar Newcomer, in training Posts: 52

    I have one but I dont understand how you can put one in a system that I am building. I plug all of the connectors in and then what? just put the windows CD In?
  9. hatchmar Newcomer, in training Posts: 52

    I guess That CD question is the lea t of my worries right now. I just spent several hours extremely carefully putting everything together, re-reading all of the manuals as I went and when it came time to power up.... nothing. not even the power supply's fan came on. the only thing I saw was a little geen LED on the MoBo. nothing else. I just spent a good deal of time checking everything and nothing seems to be connected wrong. the only part I wasnt sure about were the panel connectors because the color of the wires werent what my MB manual said. they were labeled though so that shouldnt be a problem
  10. Tedster Techspot old timer..... Posts: 10,047   +11

    Your CD rom is recognized as an IDE device. The motherboard reads it as a "hard disk" even though it is not. Put your CD rom as the first device on your first IDE/ATA cable. Place your ZIP drive or first hard drive as the second device on the first IDE/ATA cable. Make sure your CD rom DIP switches are set as master and your hard disk as slave (or vice versa).

    On your second IDE cable have your second hard disk as a master or have 2 hard drives on your second (one master and 1 slave)

    I never recommend buiilding a system with only one hard disk.


    IDE 0 (cable 1) -------------CD rom (master) -----------Zip drive (slave)

    IDE 1 (cable 2)-------------HD 1 (master)--------------HD2 (slave)

    alternate config

    IDE0 --------------------CD rom (master)----------HD 1 (slave)

    IDE1---------------------HD 2
  11. HIM_Valo Newcomer, in training Posts: 53

    I dont know if it matters on the power switch connector from the case to the motherboard, but if you plug in the power led or HDD ones upside down the lights wont come on. I dont know if you plug it in backwards but it might not turn on if its been plugged in backwards.

    Also usally the cabels on the case are labeld on the black part at the end, as to which one is which. On the actual motherboard the pins should be labeld and just match them up. Of course not every motherboard does this, but i had a ASUS mobo before this one and it was labled on the motherboard. The print is small, so you might want a small magnifying lens or if you have good vision you should be good.

    Good luck man.