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Verizon’s 'Six Strikes' anti-piracy policy unearthed

By Shawn Knight
Jan 11, 2013
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  1. The controversial "six strikes" anti-piracy system is scheduled to go into effect in the US within the next few weeks. Five major Internet service providers will initially be participating including Verizon, whose policy on the system was recently obtained by...

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  2. In before Verizon bashing from IP thieves.
     
  3. Maybe someone could provide a complete list of ISP's that are planning on implementing it?
     
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  4. MilwaukeeMike

    MilwaukeeMike TS Evangelist Posts: 2,153   +737

    "Interestingly enough, these measures will also apply to business customers which could have a negative impact on the availability of free public Wi-Fi."

    Didn't we already have a ruling that established that you are not responsible for what people do on your wi-fi?

    You forgot strike 7, when the offending customer drops Verizon as an ISP and goes with someone else.
     
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  5. ikesmasher

    ikesmasher TS Evangelist Posts: 1,966   +389

    Whats funny is that verizon won't let people know that "file sharing software" can be used quite legally. And is actually quite useful to us who dont use it for piracy.
     
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  6. Win7Dev

    Win7Dev TS Booster Posts: 375   +43

    If you get a new ISP you get a new IP so.... All this does is promote people to switch ISP's every few months.
     
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  7. Tygerstrike

    Tygerstrike TS Enthusiast Posts: 827   +93

    @Win
    They will be keeping a list of offending customers. That list will be shared with all the companies who will be participating in this program. Strike #7 they hand your information over to MPAA/RIAA. You then feel slighted because you have been caught and branded as a thief and you wont be able to get internet with any of those companies. Kinda funny when you think about it. Eventually the only internet ppl will be able to get will be prepaid services. But ppl were warned this would happen. They still continued to pirate and now we have this. And I assure you this is simply the begining. I certainly hope it was worth it because it only gets worse from here.
     
  8. "Too bad your IP is not your identity" said the courts.
    "Surely you jest!" the motion picture association protested!
    "I'm afraid not, but feel free to try to prosecute individuals." replied the courts.
     
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  9. As Verizon & all the other isp's subscribing to this policy of privacy intrution of individual private internet accounts, as they become the #1 enemies of their customers, who are they going to depend on for customer revenue? Hopefuly MPA/RIAA made a deal with them to compensate them for the resentment that the isp's will get from their ex-customers for the violation of their privacy...
     
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  10. This has nothing to do with anti-piracy as Verizon has not content or intellectual property being downloaded. Verizon is using this opportunity to justify scaling back bandwidth they are contractually obligated to provide to it's paying customers.
     
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  11. Littleczr

    Littleczr TS Booster Posts: 407   +78

    I'm sure there is ways around this. Sooner or later the work around will be made popular.
     
     
  12. Beer-to-Peer is already popular...
     
  13. What if you use an IP proxy like Spotflux and Hotspot shield?
     
  14. Tygerstrike

    Tygerstrike TS Enthusiast Posts: 827   +93

    @above Guest(s)
    First Guest: The reason this is being innitiated is because the MPAA/RIAA want thier money they feel is owed to them by pirates, so they use this tool to weed out the average user. The only ppl to get to six strikes would be your actual pirates.
    Second Guest:
    No they will continue to provide the speeds and bandwidth to those customers who are not being flagged for pirating. Dont pirate and your updown speeds will be the same. If anything it will get faster for those that do not pirate. As the bandwidth the pirates would use is taken from them.
    Shouldnt you guests be out in the yard moaning "Braaaaaiiins"?
     
  15. End the duopoly, please. Then we can't be blackmailed by this fascist corporate elite. Go to your city or county government and demand they terminate their franchise agreement with Verize et al.
     
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  16. fimbles

    fimbles TS Evangelist Posts: 1,281   +157

    Bye bye verizon!

    Was not nice knowing you!
     
  17. Strike #8

    1. Go find the local neighborhood crackhead psycho.
    2. Give him a free all day bus pass, a $100 gift card for Joe's ammo, and a letter from your ISP saying his internet was just cancelled and he cant download anymore porn.
    3. Then go get some beer, chips and watch the evening news :)
     
  18. St1ckM4n

    St1ckM4n TS Evangelist Posts: 3,475   +624

    IP =/= individual, so I'm not sure how exactly this is fair.
     
  19. spydercanopus

    spydercanopus TS Guru Posts: 802   +87

    Anybody remember "Internet 2" talk? That's what you'll eventually get. A very specific set of websites you may access, a whitelist.

    If only Tesla were alive to invent global wireless ad-hoc p2p networks to bypass the Bandwidth Barons.
     
  20. Who is insane enough to download stuff via Torrent? Wasn't that for 12-year olds?
     
  21. St1ckM4n

    St1ckM4n TS Evangelist Posts: 3,475   +624

    Lolwut. Do you even know what a torrent is, let alone P2P protocol? Have a read of this and if it's still unclear why P2P is awesome, come back here.
     
  22. Tygerstrike

    Tygerstrike TS Enthusiast Posts: 827   +93

    What I find funny is that ppl continue to pirate despite the legal ramifications. Heres a bit of an incidient that happend with me. I found out that the Cellphone/ISP companies were going to instigate the 6 strikes law. I was discussing this with a friend of mine who pirated notoriously. I explained that pirating was go the way of the DoDo because MPAA/RIAA really wanted to crack down on piracy. He looked at the articles and came to the conclusion that pirating wasnt going to be worth it anymore. Moral of the story: Be proactive and talk to your friends about this. One bit of constructive advice might save your friend a lawsuit or jailtime.
     
  23. ShadowDeath

    ShadowDeath TS Rookie Posts: 51

    No matter how you look at it legal or piracy it's still a full force invasion of privacy. The methods to track this type of traffic would involve packet sniffers. This could expose sensitive material which we know Verizon has been known to sell in the past.
     


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