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What slows Windows down?

By LNCPapa
Sep 11, 2006
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  1. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 18,353

    Thanks Arthur

    But these two are my least favorite: AVG Free Edition and Spybots :dead:
    Actually I'd even say that AVG will slow down your system (but since Ver9, it only a bit higher in resource than Avira)

    My recommendation is to remove Spybots (useless old program now)
    Use free Malwarebytes to scan your system when you want
    And uninstall AVG and then run the AVG Remover (as it won't uninstall fully without it)
    Then install free Avira (oh and do an updated scan to find things AVG usually misses)

    Result: System Boost :)
     
  2. Arthurik_jan

    Arthurik_jan TS Member Posts: 45

    Kimsland, thanks for the recommendations. Due to the fact that I've not used Avira ever in the past, I decided to give it a try so I went ahead and changed my AVG to Avira. We'll see how it goes, although during the updated scan it found 2 trojan backdoors in my downloads folder. :grinthumb

    It's too early for any conclusions but I still want to thank you for the heads-up.

    Arthur
     
  3. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 18,353

    Thanks Arthur, I have found that often from doing the exact same thing on Malware affected computers I have worked on
    But, I'm not allowed to recommend doing this in the Malware removal forum, as AVG is supposedly so respected, and users who run the free version of AVG just feel like I'm giving Free Avira some type of plug, and I must work for them or something ! (of which I don't)
    Actually I'm happy to state which is the best at the time, not exactly a respected anything User

    But since you mentioned it in your reply (AVG) regarding slow downs, I jumped at the opportunity :D And killed two birds with one stone, so to speak ;)
    Note: Not everyone finds Malware from doing this. Except I do every single time, on servicing Users computers with Malware, and AVG says nothing found (How strange!)
    Edit: Yet the other way around (as I've proven by testing) AVG does not find anything, when Avira scans cleanly

    Oh the first few updates can be annoyingly slow, but free Avira will be ok after that.
     
  4. Arthurik_jan

    Arthurik_jan TS Member Posts: 45

    douple post again... sorry
     
  5. Arthurik_jan

    Arthurik_jan TS Member Posts: 45

    So far so good. The updates took me about 30-40 seconds due to my 15Mbit connection at home. There are constant ad pop-ups during updates but I am not complaining about those as this is a free program and these guys have to earn for their daily bread somehow, right? :)

    I decided to experiment further with Avira and executed the same change on my girlfriend's desktop. I get to clean her computer from malware once a week and I usually find one or two trojans here and there (especially in the cracks and hacks her brother downloads for cheating purposes in games :suspiciou ) and a few dangerous cookies. The point is to see whether it will prevent these threats even from appearing in the first place.

    I must apologize to those reading these comments as this is a performace boost thread and here I am chatting about anti-viruse's effectivness with kimsland :eek:

    Arthur
     
  6. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 18,353

    Its still a performance boost :rolleyes:

    Anyway, have you yourself noticed your computer has now a quicker response? Especially on the Internet?
     
  7. Arthurik_jan

    Arthurik_jan TS Member Posts: 45

    You know, when installing AVG I always refused to install the link scanner and all of the plugins for emails and such. I had the problem of slow internet response times when this link scanner was installed though. So The answer is, yes the response is quicker if the AVG link scanner is on, but it's always off with me. In addition, The new 9th version upgraded this plugin and made it lighter. My girlfriend's desktop pc had it always on and the response times were much faster then with AVG 8,5. Although I must admit that it seems as though AVG is one of the few software developers that is actually listening to what people want. AVG 9 is a great improvement.

    Arthur
     
  8. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 18,353

    Except when a Users computer is riddled with Malware (which is kinda contradictory of the program :suspiciou )
    Anyway, enough said on this, I suppose back to topic.
    So, any Norton users out there :D
     
  9. Arthurik_jan

    Arthurik_jan TS Member Posts: 45

    I have to agree :)
     
  10. pizzada

    pizzada TS Rookie Posts: 108


    I have tried about everything...Nort, Mcaffee...Kaspersky etc....about three months or so ago I got an updated 'win32 a/b' virus...bad news...wiped out every program (anything with an executable in it) on a storage drive...though left everything else alone.

    It even prevented MalwareBytes(which is very good) from starting up..though there is a trick or two to get around that problem.

    I finally tried Avast....totally free...no time limit...no 'detect a bug and we'll remove it once you shell out some cash' routine. Just plain free.

    On the main drive it vaporized the bug thoroughly....worst bug Ive ever had, too. Now, Im sure it's not perfect...but it's running on an old tired Pentum 4 machine...and I can hardly tell any real-world difference as far as slow-downs go.

    In Task Manager it only uses around 20 K memory for 'real-time' active protection...and virtually zero processor unless you choose to do a system scan or if it finds something. Also has a quick right-click file scan if you want to examine a questionable download before unzipping it.

    Anyway, tha's my two cents.
     
  11. tipstir

    tipstir TS Ambassador Posts: 4,683   +86

    The rouge software that gets on these systems can pretty much disable much of the prevention software out there. Not much you can do, sure you can clean the system but after a good cleaning the system might not be what it use to be. XP Pro you can use Group Policies to tighten up the system security because by default it lets everything in or lets everything run. This is the problem which welcomes malware in. Then you can use Rising AV 2009 Free International version to block the stuff from getting on system.

    What helps

    1. password should be use in any anti-virus software
    2. daily updates for def and program
    3. windows updates and patches
    4. software firewall even the free one that comes with Windows XP/Vista/7 is more then enough

    Rules that AV should detect a threat or rouge

    1. Clean the Virus
    2. Can't clean the virus then delete it
    3. Can't delete it then move to a safe area
    4. Once mored to a safe area then delete it.

    Rising AV has these features and so does MSE from Microsoft.
     
     
  12. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 18,353

    iTopsoft Anti-Spyware. Never heard of it

    I usually suggest Malwarebytes, and sometimes The Avenger

    Usually gets rid of most Malware stuff (not including Viruses of course. Of which I prefer Free Avira ;))

    Edit, oh that's a paid product :( (iTopsoft) and you are multiple posting it on many Topics :(
    Oh well there goes another member
     
  13. pw2much

    pw2much TS Enthusiast Posts: 110

    You know you think purchasing one of the best internet security suites would do great things for your computer and I had to find this out!!! Thanks guys when I was running winxp I started to remove programs from my computer to help it go faster and all this time it was Norton doing the biggest slow down of all,at lease now I know what's slowing it down.But is there an option for service,do the other security suites offer the same features with less drainage?
     
  14. pw2much

    pw2much TS Enthusiast Posts: 110

    Say guys! can anyone tell me the rating on Spyzooka it's developed by Blue Penguin Software,I have it running along with Norton any insight to how much it slows down the boot of a computer it's a very good program and I want to keep it after I get rid of the big drinker!!
     
  15. vkdjk

    vkdjk TS Rookie

    as windows gets older, so is their processing time....probably because

    "Every time you (or your kids) load a program, game or file, your PC's software registery is updated with new instructions needed to operate that item. However, when the item is removed, these instructions usually remain on your PC. Every time you run your computer it tries to execute these instructions but, because the related program can't be found, it causes a registry error. Your PC is doing a lot more work than it should be and the result is a significantly slower computer"
     
  16. Jillocity

    Jillocity TS Rookie Posts: 17

    many thanks

    i knew there was a reason i didn't like norton...knew it was slow to load, but didn't know just HOW slow until i read the research done here...i'm all for the LAN :D
     
  17. rislyy001

    rislyy001 TS Rookie Posts: 19

    What is the matter with Norton, I think it is OK
     
  18. ravisunny2

    ravisunny2 TS Ambassador Posts: 2,057   +8

    This is a mammoth thread.

    No one in his right mind is going to wade through it.

    Perhaps a reduced stickie would be appropriate.
     
  19. esbo

    esbo TS Rookie Posts: 161

    Simple way is just to look at the task manager and see what is using all the CPU.
    Sometimes the CPU usage will be low but computer slow due to disk access, looking at at memory usage and page faults is helpful there.
     
  20. lobster1979

    lobster1979 TS Rookie

    Tons of 3rd party software running in the background slows windows down. Especially Nortons.
     
  21. foxdelta

    foxdelta TS Rookie Posts: 47

    I use Norton Internet Security 2010 with Windows 7 Ultimate on an old machine with Intel P4 HT 3.0 Ghz, 2GB DDR RAM, 160GB HDD (IDE) and ATI HD3650 Grafix.

    In the past I have used Norton products and agreed that they were resource hogs, however, the new engine that Norton uses with their latest products is very good and not resource hungry. So far I have no issues with NIS10. I am intersted to know if anyone else agrees or disagrees with this?

    Many thanks.
     
  22. circusboy01

    circusboy01 TS Enthusiast Posts: 829   +11

    I think most people who think Norton is a resource hog,have not looked into the newest versions. A few months back PC Magazine gave it a good report;and mentioned that it's not the resource hog it used to be.
    The only reason I no longer use it.Is because I discovered that free anti viruses
    like Avast protect you every bit as good as the ones you pay for. CB
     
  23. Cremaster

    Cremaster TS Rookie Posts: 27

    Has anyone mentioned that the biggest problem with windows slowing down is Windows its self?

    It lets other people and Microsoft decide what runs on your computer and when. It also runs differently on two computers of the exact same model. How can it not cause problems?
     
  24. Benny26

    Benny26 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,576   +47

    That's why you gotta keep it clean, keep it lean, keep it mean :D
     
  25. LNCPapa

    LNCPapa TS Special Forces Topic Starter Posts: 4,330   +277

    No. Just no.
     


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