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Which system should my dad use?

By wolfram
Feb 21, 2007
  1. Hi guys,

    We just wanted to ask you a simple question. My dad currently has this machine:

    Celeron D 335 @ 2,81 Ghz
    Biostar P4M800 Mobo
    ATI 9600XT video card
    768 MB RAM

    But since I've just ordered my E4300, I'm gonna give him my current PC parts, but the main problem is that he can't buy yet a good GPU (7600 GT), so he would have this setup:

    Athlon 64 3200+ @ 2.4 Ghz
    Biostar Tforce 6100-939 mobo
    Integrated Geforce 6100 graphics
    1 GB DDR 400 Single channel RAM

    The question is, which system would perform better? He mainly plays GTA: SA, some FS9, and NFS Most wanted.

    Thanks! :)
     
  2. wolfram

    wolfram TechSpot Paladin Topic Starter Posts: 2,605   +9

    Tough question, isn't it? :) Any advice?
     
  3. cfitzarl

    cfitzarl TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,520   +9

    If he isn't a gamer, the second one. It has a better cpu, and more memory, which increases performance out of gaming. The 6100 is probably fine for light gaming like Sim City or something :) .
     
  4. Bluemouse

    Bluemouse TS Rookie Posts: 405

    Why not take the graphics card out of the first computer and stick it in the second?
     
  5. cfitzarl

    cfitzarl TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,520   +9

    One has a PCIe x16 slot, and the other, and AGP most likely.
     
  6. MetalX

    MetalX TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,909

    Just slap a GDDR3 7300GT in there. Seriously, the GDDR3 versions of the 7300GTs are a good bit more powerful than a 6600GT. Don't let the 7300 part fool you, seriously they are G73s, and they have specs often better than 7600GS, but they cost like $75-80. Only problem is they are hard to find. I don't know if newegg has any because it's not working for me :(
     
  7. cfitzarl

    cfitzarl TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,520   +9

    Newegg wasn't working for me yesterday; it kept "x'ing" out the pictures and had odd formatting. It kept asking me if the page was alright as well. They must have changed their systems or something. I think the problem for me was my browser, IE 6. I don't use firefox due to the lack of ActiveX controls, and IE 7...well...I installed it but I had no connection, and to troubleshoot, I unintalled it. Stupid router cord :mad:
     
  8. wolfram

    wolfram TechSpot Paladin Topic Starter Posts: 2,605   +9

    Thanks guys for your replies. He mainly plays GTA: San Andreas, Flight Simulator 9, and NFS: Most wanted. I really don't know if a 6100 can play those games.

    And thanks for the 7300GT suggestion MetalX, but he plans to buy a 7600GT ;)
     
  9. nickslick74

    nickslick74 TS Rookie Posts: 883

    I agree with cfitzarl, the second system would be better than the first. Less of a processor and memory bottleneck.
     
  10. wolfram

    wolfram TechSpot Paladin Topic Starter Posts: 2,605   +9

    Ok, we'll try it out. I also think that the Athlon system should perform better. The CPU is MUCH, MUCH more powerful than the Celery D, but maybe the 9600XT is way faster than any onboard IGP.

    Thanks guys :wave:
     
  11. nickslick74

    nickslick74 TS Rookie Posts: 883

    I've heard the 6100 graphics are fairly decent (for on board). Since the 9600XT is a fairly old gpu, they may match up. Give it a shot and let us know what happens.
     
     
  12. MetalX

    MetalX TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,909

    No way do they match up. My Radeon 7000 PCI 64 MB beats a GMA 950 by a fair margin.
     
  13. Sharkfood

    Sharkfood TS Guru Posts: 1,198

    Well, performance in GTA and FS9 will likely be better or comparable.

    NFS will be a big nosedive though. It's up to him if he can suffer with reduced settings and poorer performance there until he can get a budget PCI-E 3d card.
     
  14. cfitzarl

    cfitzarl TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,520   +9

    Wow, that would be cool to have a parent that playes GTA ;) .
     
  15. vuonggg

    vuonggg TS Rookie Posts: 20

    I don't think a IGP could play NFS and GTA:SA, I think for now he should stick with 9600XT until he gets something that could fit into the second one.
     
  16. cfitzarl

    cfitzarl TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,520   +9

    The GeForce 6100 would be able to play both reasonable well on lower settings.
     
  17. wolfram

    wolfram TechSpot Paladin Topic Starter Posts: 2,605   +9

    It managed to play San Andreas, but at low FPS, in a 640x 480 resolution. But amazingly, it played NFS Most wanted (of course @ 640) pretty good :)

    But still the Celeron D system performs faster... The GPU makes a big difference.

    Thank you a lot guys :wave:
     
  18. beef_jerky4104

    beef_jerky4104 Banned Posts: 1,094

    Yeah that would be tight.

    (Bump)
     
  19. wolfram

    wolfram TechSpot Paladin Topic Starter Posts: 2,605   +9

    He loves it ;) He loves to shoot down police helicopters and makes a whole mess in the city!
     
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