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Xbox One will force gamers to stay online after all

By David Tom
Jun 7, 2013
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  1. havok585

    havok585 TS Enthusiast Posts: 108   +19

    Too bad this site (which is kinda lame on this day) forum comments doesnt have a dislike button, u would be the first I would test it on.
     
  2. havok585

    havok585 TS Enthusiast Posts: 108   +19


    Chuck Cortes, well said.
     
  3. richiemortuk

    richiemortuk TS Rookie

    Lol, Ive used VM for 7 years and in that time I have had about 4 hours downtime which happened once about 5 years ago.
     
  4. As a network technician I know that this is going to be a nightmare. This will end up costing end users enormous amounts of money because most people need to hire a technician to fix rudimentary network problems. We are talking Microsoft proxy issues and ISP issues. In addition, a lot of people have out dated routers and the ISP refuses to acknowledge issues with hardware or connectivity issues. This is a big mess and it will be a big loss for Microsoft.
     
  5. I can speak for myself and a few friends who live in the country in the UK:
    The 'always connected' idea is a ridiculously stupid idea for me. I'm lucky to even have an internet connection, and when I do it tops at about 0.2Mb/s. Xbox gaming has been a good way to waste time when I can't be bothered waiting for my internet (as many services just don't co-operate with it). I know not many people have this situation, but I for one CERTAINLY won't be buying this.
     
  6. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TechSpot Paladin Posts: 6,090   +1,519

    I disagree, this stand point is basically looking for an escape goat to blame preexisting problems on. I highly doubt the issues mentioned above will have much of a negative effect on the phone-home feature. Anyone who has an Internet connection and cannot establish a phone-home handshake one every 24 hours, has a different problem than trying to lay blame on Microsoft.

    The issue is not that an Internet connection is or is not available, that is between the consumer and their ISP. As for those that have Internet, I'd say this is a non-issue. As for those who can't or won't maintain an Internet connection, this is an issue. And the issue being that Microsoft is requiring an Internet connection for a device that doesn't need one to partially operate.
     
  7. JC713

    JC713 TS Evangelist Posts: 7,018   +912

    I wonder how $100 games will work out.
     
  8. When I was in the Air Force there were weeks on end that I wasn't able to connect my X-Box 360 to the internet. Requiring people to connect to the internet every 24 hours for a product they bought is complete donkey crap.
     
  9. We have power outages often, sometimes for more than 24 hours. How are they going to account for people who aren't disconnecting by choice?
     
  10. Somebody needs to grow up, alright. I live in one of the biggest cities in California. Due to the noncompetitive nature of cable/internet services, I have two real choices when dealing with ISPs: AT&T and Cox Communications. I have Cox, the "best" ISP in this area. This year, I've only had one outage that lasted a weekend, but there was one year where I had about 10 outages.

    One other thing: I buy games for my nephews, who play their XBOX offline (their parents would rather spend money on something else than XBOX live and a fast internet connection).
     
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  11. Darth Shiv

    Darth Shiv TS Evangelist Posts: 1,169   +176

    Microsoft are basically saying they don't care about your market segment or your opinion in this matter.
     
     
  12. dennis777

    dennis777 TS Enthusiast Posts: 281   +32

    Lets say that Xbox360 become a hit, can M$ accommodate upon activation of a game?? #Error37 Diablo 3
    why make it miserable for your paying customer? then someone will make it work offline.... ->pirates
     
  13. GhostRyder

    GhostRyder TS Evangelist Posts: 2,262   +541

    I still stand by what ive said before in that its not the end all of things. Smart Phones and such require internet activation and this idea is im sure more about keeping the consoles in check and updated to avoid issues in the future.
     
  14. kylercagni

    kylercagni TS Member Posts: 29

    I think M$ forgot about some of us who are in counties with poor broadband penetration, so this is can only mean I'm buying the PS4
     
  15. Burty117

    Burty117 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,505   +312

    Smartphones only need a one time activation, I'm sure if your Smartphone didn't have internet access for 24 hours and it locked you out from using it, you'd be pretty annoyed....

    This is simply a stupid idea, one that I'm pretty sure they'll revert very soon after the initial fan boy sales have gone dry.
     
  16. There are LAN features and CAMPAIGNS in so many games for a reason....Also people with lower speed level connections more than likely use a WIRED connection. If they dont have a router and someone else uses the internet for not even an hour complete gaming functionality is lost when IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE. Microsoft literally just made it MORE difficult for CONSUMERS to game on this console and that's a fact. It's like saying all human beings now have breathe, eat,sleep, drink water, AND run in 5 circles each hour everyday. Also, there are plenty of people in the U.S. alone who DO game WITHOUT INTERNET. Just because YOUR ISP works great in YOUR area it does not even mean that the same ISP works great somewhere else. EVEN IN THE U.S. <--no wai.

    There's also so many people who live outside an ISP's reach. It was just 4 years the town I live in got windstream. Satellite of course was too expensive anyways. I remember taking my original xbox over to a friends house because he had internet and I had the console so we could play halo 2 online. Sorry M$ but GAMES and the INTERNET are NOT the same thing.
     
  17. A smartphone doesnt need to check in to the internet. Neither does a tablet, a computer, a DVD/Blueray player, a TV (even :D INTERNET TVS), an xbox, xbox 360, playstation whatever, any other gaming console for that matter, but apparently an Xbox One does. Guess which of those I wont be buying.
     
  18. General Sam

    General Sam TS Member Posts: 26

    I do not understand why Microsoft build a nice customer fan base with their Xbox and Xbox 360 then slap everyone in the face with this Xbox One.

    The sad thing is many people will buy it if it's got the hit titles such as Call of Duty, Halo, Gears of War etc...
     
  19. I really can't understand the level of backlash over this. It it quite obviously part of there anti-piracy measures and something surely they have had to take a stab at doing due to the level of piracy on the last two consoles. Frustrating it may be having to check in every day but I think it is safe to say a vast majority will have a reliable enough internet connection for this not to be of a nuisance. You can't please everyone with this.
    As for the PS4, Sony really haven't said much or committed too far on this subject yet. Don't be too sure that they will be prove to be all that different.
     
  20. You assume the only people who will buy an XBox are in Europe or the USA? So now I have to ask Microsoft everyday for permission to play the games I already own! You, my friend, need to take your head out of your ____.
     
  21. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TechSpot Paladin Posts: 6,090   +1,519

    Tell me how forcing legitimate buyer to phone-home, helps in the effort against piracy. You don't attack piracy, by attacking legitimate buyers.

    Subjugating the whole world to daily scans, just to find the few who are not playing by the rules is immoral. Police watch for rules to be broken, they don't subjugate the masses while waiting.
     
  22. Tygerstrike

    Tygerstrike TS Enthusiast Posts: 827   +93

    I think its less about piracy control and more about just CONTROL. MS and a few other devs have been butthurt that there is a 3 billion dollar a year market for used games. They want what they consider to be their fair share. Even though the market itself is GAMER based. The GAMERS made the used game market. We got tired of spending $60-$100 on a cartridge just to beat it and have it sit collecting dust. Originally it was just tradeing games with freinds, but it grew into an established market. Now that market is not only being threatend by MS, they are activly attempting to destroy the market that on no small part helped MS become a giant. With the bad press about fires on the original xbox then and the red ring of death on the x360, MS started off in the proverbial hole. If it wasnt for gamers waiting then buying all those used games when they purchased their x360, MS would still be struggling with bad press and a sceptical customer base. So the always on is just another way MS is useing to crush a market that they technically recieve nothing from. When the reality is that they move more games at the price point they want because gamers can trade in their old stuff for the new stuff there by making MS money. The great thing about being short sighted is simple, you never see the semi nailing you until its too late.
     
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  23. General Sam

    General Sam TS Member Posts: 26

    I personally don't mind anti-piracy measures as long as they don't effect my actual use of the console. Having to connect to Xbox Live is a pain in the butt already on the Xbox 360 and I get disconnected quite frequently which means on the Xbox One I'm going to be having some real frustrating issues,

    I think I'll sit this Xbox One out and maybe join the ranks of the Playstation where I'm free to do as I please.
     
  24. Is this is what 'xboxers' get for Microsoft not being able to defeat C4eva and Team Jungle?
    lol
     
  25. The people that are conditioned to reply 'it's no big deal' don't understand it is a big problem - it's all about control of what you do and how you use the console/setup box. No longer can you disconnect your console and play offline, Microsoft needs to check on your console at a certain time. It's to see if you modded something, even though you spend between $599 to $799 on the Xbox One. Now here's the kick to the nuts - Microsoft doesn't care about gaming. The main priority of the Xbox One is to be a major player in the streaming media industry not gaming.

    Microsoft has no vision on the XBox One, look for more flip-flopping by them at E3 once Sony fully reveals the PS4.
     


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