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XP won't let me change IRQ numbers!

Discussion in 'Windows OS' started by Master Toddy, Jan 30, 2003.

  1. grammjr Newcomer, in training

    Never mind.. I am stupid...:dead: I found it in the view, BUT I also found possibly the problem.. I reloaded to Standard HAL and the audio device is sharing with my ethernet AND Promise SCSI card.
    Problem, even with this thing in Standad, I still cannot change the IRQ.
    Help.
  2. poertner_1274 secroF laicepS topShceT Posts: 4,745

    When you installed your new sound card did you disable onboard sound in the bios? This might be a problem conflicting with it in some way. You could try that as a fix, and it could possibly be assigned to another IRQ when you do this.

    BTW :wave: Welcome to TechSpot :wave:
  3. grammjr Newcomer, in training

    Yes, I made sure it was diabled in my BIOS. It was a cheap card so did not give it much credence.
    The only time the issue is there is play wave file off the HD or my stored music, the CD and line in have no problem.

    Thanks for the welcome:)
  4. leogon20015 Newcomer, in training

    Hi, I have a Radeon All in Wonder card in my PC. Microsoft tells that with ACPI working in XP is no problem to sharings IRQs, but I use to capture video with my card, and the first advise about tweaking capturing for the best results always says "it's imperative not to share the video card IRQ with any other device in the PC", mainly the sound card.
    So there is the contradiction.
    I have an idea, why not use the posibility of booting de PC with different hardware profiles?
    So you can boot normally the PC and go to create a new hardware profile, and check mark the option of ask for a hardware profile at the start. You can name that hardware profile as "capture video" or whatever. Then you restart the PC and choose that hardware profile, and then you start to change things.
    Change the acpi hal to standard pc, but also disable all hardware devices that you don't need for capture video (com ports, parallel port, modem, network card, etc) if you don't have a USB mouse disable that also. At the end of the operation disable all TSR software that you don't need to capture including of course any antivirus.
    At the end of all this,reboot and try to asign the IRQs the way you need. Then you have two options when you boot the computer, one for normal use and the other for capturing video.
    Maybe this is not the solution for every case, but it works for me.
  5. Sippy Cup Newcomer, in training

    I have had a lot of the same problems everyone else has had. I also have an M-Audio card, but mine is a Delta 1010LT. When I record with it, I get a lot of terrible static sounds. I posted on another forum and was told that the problem was due to IRQ sharing, so I tried the whole thing with switching to Standard PC and was also left without a way to change back to ACPI (which I needed to do after my ATA controller was left without any resources, and my hard drive was running on PIO mode). All this stuff about 23 IRQs and ACPI and APIC and HAL is all new to me. I wish I understood it better so I could fix this problem I'm having, but after reading that changing the IRQ didn't fix the other guy's problem with his M-Audio card, I'm beginning to get a little worried.

    If anyone is feeling charitable, link me up with some literature on this 23 IRQs thing.. and HALs. :) Oh, and if anyone is successfully recording live audio with an M-Audio Delta 1010LT, PLEASE share your setup with me, because I have to fix this problem. Thanks :)
  6. vynum Newcomer, in training

    XP Pro Reinstall Choosing HAL

    http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;299340

    Go to the Microsoft URL above. This will tell you how to do a reinstall and how to choose the different HALS up install.

    Here is the meat of it just in case this article gets lost off of MS's website:

    To force in a system Hardware Abstraction Layer (HAL) during an upgrade or installation of Windows XP, note that during the Text-mode phase of Setup, you receive the following informational message across the bottom of the screen:

    Press F6 if you need to install a third-party SCSI or RAID driver.
    When this message appears, press F5. You can now make HAL choices by viewing the different options. Note that if you instead press F7, the Standard PC HAL loads, and the ACPI compliance check is bypassed.

    After you press F5, you will see the following list of computer types (listed in bold). A brief description of each HAL is included below as a reference.

    ACPI Multiprocessor PC: Use for a multiple-processor ACPI computer
    ACPI Uniprocessor PC: Use for a ACPI multiple-processor board but with a single processor installed
    Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) PC: Use for a single processor motherboard with single processor.
    Compaq SystemPro Multiprocessor or 100% Compatible: Use for a Compaq Systempro computer.
    MPS Uniprocessor PC: Use on non-ACPI computers dual processor motherboard with a single processor installed
    MPS Multiprocessor PC: Non-ACPI computers with a dual processor running
    Standard PC: Any Standard PC, non-ACPI, or non-MPS. Could be a 386, 486, Pentium, Pentium II, or Pentium III
    Standard PC with C-Step i486
    Other

    The screen only displays two computers types at a time. You must scroll up using the arrow keys to see the complete list. For additional information about related topics, click the article numbers below to view the articles in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
    237556 Troubleshooting Windows 2000 Hardware Abstraction Layer Issues
     
  7. Gadget123 Newcomer, in training Posts: 20

    irq question

    Hi,

    I was reading your posts with interest and wanted to ask a question. This is my first post, so am not sure if my system info will show up. My MB is an Abit KT7-Raid running with XP. I recently bought a MSI FX5200 TV128 Vivo and it pretty much worked ok, except I had problems with the packaged InterVideo software seeing my Creative PCI 16 soundcard and other 3rd party software issues conflicting. So, I bought a Creative SB 16 4.1 card..no luck. Returned it and bought a Creative Audigy LS..no luck. In messing around with the drivers (updates/uninstall etc) I couldn't boot up. Had to call MS. I am back up, but now Video card has no tv picture to add to not seeing the sound card.

    I am real close to just upgrading(wanted to anyway) to a Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe MB with 1G DDR and AMD 2600 Barton core. Plan on a new SATA HD and fresh install of XP. I have noticed in various forums that MB's have 2 controllers with 8 IRQ's each..total 16IRQ's...yet some people list having up to 25 IRQ's. I don't think by 3-4 yr old MB has ACPI except for two settings and I can't find APIC functions at all. The sound card,video card, 2 USB controllers and about 2 other items are on IRQ 11. I have moved the cards around with no luck.

    Questions:
    Will the planned new Asus MB handle IRQ's better and give me up to 25 with XP by selecting Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) PC: Use for a single processor motherboard with single processor?

    What creates 25 IRQ's in a seemingly 16 IRQ environment.

    I hope I solve the problem..I don't think I am getting the full features of my Video card.

    Thanks
  8. grog Newcomer, in training Posts: 25

    Microsoft does not recommend that you change the HAL that is installed during the Windows XP Setup process. When you change from the ACPI HAL to the Standard PC HAL, you must reinstall the operating system, and ACPI functionality is lost.

    In some rare instances, you may need to have control over a resource assignment. You can manually configure resources in Windows only if you are using Standard PC HAL, and even then you may not be able to configure some devices. The device must support manually setting of resources.

    For additional information, click the article number below to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
    237556 How to Troubleshoot Windows 2000 Hardware Abstraction Layer Issues

    252420 General Description of IRQ Sharing in Windows

    314107 How to Specify a Specific or Third-Party HAL During Windows XP Setup

    Added: When installing XP disable PNP in Bios this is a left over from 95 and can cause problems.

    Enable ACPI in Bios ACPI does a much better job of managing IRQ asignments.

    Most hardware can share IRQ ports the sound and video don't do to well. But moving PCI sound cards will sometimes move them to another IRQ port.
  9. sargaana Newcomer, in training

    can't change IRQ settings

    I reinstalled WinXP with Standard PC HAL, and disabled Plug-and-Play OS in BIOS. Still, XP does not allow changing IRQ settings. There is no option for IRQ assignment in BIOS. Need to assign dedicated IRQ to my NVidia graphics card. Any ideas?
  10. StormBringer Newcomer, in training Posts: 2,871

    try disabling ACPI. Not sure it will work for you but it should let you manually assign IRQs. Its been known to work with older hardware that didn't like the way XP handles IRQ settings.
  11. sargaana Newcomer, in training

    I already disabled ACPI, still IRQ settings cannot be modified. I've a centrino laptop, not sure if its possible with that.
  12. StormBringer Newcomer, in training Posts: 2,871

    oh, its a portable, thats an entirely different animal. What is the make and model? Portables are a bit of a pain sometimes.
  13. sargaana Newcomer, in training

    I've a Samsung SensX15plus laptop with Intel Centrino Mobile (Pentium M) 1.5 GHz, Windows XP Pro, and NVidia GeForce FX 5200Go 64MB. It's got Phoenix BIOS ver OOBK.
  14. andygibbs Newcomer, in training Posts: 76

    I had a belkin wireless pci card installed in my computer and working fine. Then i installed a new graphics card (geforce fx5200 256mb) into another PCI slot. In my third PCI slot i have a firewire card. When i installed my new graphics card, my wireless card stopped working properly. I have tried swapping the PCI cards round, putting them in different slots but it has made no difference.

    My graphics card is on IRQ 17, my wireless card is on IRQ 19 - so that shouldn't be causing a problem.

    Does anyone know what could be causing the problem?
  15. Myth Newcomer, in training

    First of all I'd like to thank all of you for your help because I'm having these problems as well but mines a little differnt apart from others. This has tortured me for a month and I've been disscouraged in the process. Some one said within this topic that you can spend numerous hours trying to reslove a problem on your pc but then realize that your comptuer is owning you. I've been pwnt for atleast a month now and I'm loosing my sanity puke: . There are instances where the same devices are running within a differen't IRQ! But my biggest problem lays between my ATi Radeon 9600 Pro and my Adaptec AHA-2930CU PCI SCSI Controller being on the same IRQ. This is causing my system to crash my games and other applications with a IRQ Driver not less or equal error. After I reboot I recieve another error that Windows XP has encountered a serious error until I reboot again. I've tried everything that I could find or come up with but I still haven't found a positive answer. Perhaps using the directions described whould help but I'm a little confused if this is comptable with my processor or not. I'll try installing a freshly formated copy of windows xp onto my other hd to ensure this but until then are any of you able to dig up some information on why it claims to only support Intel processors, i'm currently running an athlon 1700+. If that's not the case care to describe?

    Standard PC-
    Applies to any Standard PC, non-ACPI, or non-MPS. The CPU may be a 386, a 486, a Pentium, a Pentium II, or a Pentium III.

    IRQ Specs-

    Resource Device Status
    IRQ 9 Microsoft ACPI-Compliant System OK
    IRQ 5 NVIDIA nForce PCI System Management OK
    IRQ 21 Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller OK
    IRQ 21 Realtek AC'97 Audio OK
    IRQ 22 Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller OK
    IRQ 20 Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller OK
    IRQ 19 Adaptec AHA-2930CU PCI SCSI Controller OK
    IRQ 19 RADEON 9600 SERIES OK
    IRQ 16 3Com EtherLink XL 10/100 PCI TX NIC (3C905B-TX) OK
    IRQ 14 NVIDIA NForce 2(tm) SPP/IGP ATA Controller OK
    IRQ 15 NVIDIA NForce 2(tm) SPP/IGP ATA Controller OK
    IRQ 0 System timer OK
    IRQ 8 System CMOS/real time clock OK
    IRQ 13 Numeric data processor OK
    IRQ 6 Standard floppy disk controller OK
    IRQ 4 Communications Port (COM1) OK
    IRQ 3 Communications Port (COM2) OK
    IRQ 12 PS/2 Compatible Mouse OK
    IRQ 1 Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard OK
  16. fiveapes Newcomer, in training

    Using the button? Is that so terrible?

    I have recently changed my mobo to an Asus K7v, and I encountered IRQ conflicts( xp doesn't say it was a conflict though) with my SBlive 5.1 sound card. It distorted the sound during game play. After I discovered about 6 different things stacked on IRQ 9 I switched to the standard PC HAL. :eek: You all sound like this is the end of the world for xp. After doing this and shuffling my sound and ethernet cards all seems to be well. The only "problem" I have encountered is that the start menu shutdown only shuts down Windows.Is there any solution to this? Aside from updating back to ACPI, which I have done, then switched back. Should I just reinstall as a standard PC? What problems could I encounter if I leave it as is? Is it so terrible to use the off button? Any Insight will be greatly appreciated.
    fiveapes
  17. Myth Newcomer, in training

    That's because you disabled power managment
  18. metalbass Newcomer, in training

    I don't care what everybody else has to say, but Phantasm is da bomb!
    I had the same irq-problem with my MAYA44 MKII soundcard. The sound was terrible! By checking the irq settings of all devices i discovered that all PCI-cards i have installed had the same irq-number: irq 9.
    I followed the steps phantasm recommended and it worked like a charme!
    There's actually one thing i'd like to add to his explanation:
    Once you restarted your machine, the OS starts to re-install all hardware. Let it do just that and everytime it asks you for a driver-cd just point to your system32 directory: it's all there! since you installed all devices before...

    Anyway...

    thanks Phantasm!

    :bounce:
  19. Mambo.Ver2.0 Newcomer, in training

    Hey guys, I was reading thru the thread coz i was having the same problem...my onboard sound AC97 was sharing IRQ 23 with ATA Serial Controller...so all i did was roll back the driver to the standard one and it selected itself a different IRQ so now everything is fine...what i want to knw is where i can get different ATA drivers that wont do what i did in the first place or how to prevent it from happening again.