No plans to fit Xbox 360 with HD-DVD

By Derek Sooman on December 15, 2005, 2:28 PM
Microsoft has attacked rumours that future versions of the new Xbox 360 console will be HD-DVD compatible, claiming that there are no plans to release an Xbox 360 that features the next generation DVD drive. This flies in the face of rumours from a Japanese news service which claimed that the company planned to launch an HD-DVD compatible Xbox 360 in 2006.

Rumours might have started due to comments made by Bill Gates himself, claiming that "We (Microsoft) are looking at whether future versions of Xbox 360 will incorporate an additional capacity of an HD-DVD player or something else." This was obviously a reference to using the console for watching movies, rather than to release games on the HD-DVD format, which could render future titles incompatible with the original Xbox 360. In any case, it seems like itís a moot point now anyway.




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vnf4ultra said:
I can't see how they are going to do any truely great high def. games if they're limited to regular dvd media. Dvd's just don't hold enough data for massive high def games that could be developed. I think Microsoft should have used some type of high capacity media for the 360, to make it successful.
Phantasm66 said:
As I said anyway, I think the only plans were to have the 360 as a HD-DVD movie player. Its doubtful we will see games that exploit the storage capacites of blu-ray and HD-DVD for a few years yet.
iantony said:
If Microsoft announced such plans now, it would also potentially affect sales of current consoles, especially if people think any xbox 360 they buy now will potentially be obsolete a year or two from now. It is conceivable it could be an upgrade option as well. For those xvbox 360 owners out there, how easy is it to remove the DVD drive from the console?
mrprimo55 said:
[b]Originally posted by vnf4ultra:[/b][quote]I can't see how they are going to do any truely great high def. games if they're limited to regular dvd media. Dvd's just don't hold enough data for massive high def games that could be developed. I think Microsoft should have used some type of high capacity media for the 360, to make it successful.[/quote]In order for this to happen they would first have to figure out a way to make processors and graphics processors that could handle really high def. games. They can't make them faster due to heat, and it would be a ridiculous (both in price and space) to make a console with more processing cores than the new ps3 is going to have. So until they find a truly remarkable new way to make processors, I don't see the HD-DVD games happening.
MarkSizzle said:
I think if microsoft wants to stay in this console race or at least in the "lead" they need to eventually release an x-box 360 or a attachment of some sort that will read HD-DVDS. This will expand the amount of consumers they are getting (depending on the price, but if they were willing to pay 4 or $500 for 360 why not this) for their 360 and movies and games. Although I do have to agree with the comment above; it will be a while till we see HD-DVD games.
cyrax said:
Personally, i think the 360 is going in the wrong direction. What made the ps2 so great was the ability to play dvds as well as high quality games. Granted the xbox could also do this the quality of playback was often suspect. Unless microsoft is truly planning to support blue ray or something, the next generation of high definition movies will leave it in the cold, so much for it being a media centre . Not only this, the size of pre rendered cinematics could increase to have them in original state will allow people to enjoy them in intended bliss,since the need to compress them will decrease visual quality . Wake up microsoft, the future is passing you by..........in high definition to boot.
iantony said:
Do you want your games full of high definition video or would you like a game you can actually play? The previous comments about DVDs being insufficient are a little bit fallacious. From what I understand, much of the extra storage on Bue Ray for example will be filled with Video. These types of games, with extensive cut scenes, have limited appeal for me (Final Fantasy anybody? zzZZZzzz...) Anyway, it would be a nuisance to have to disc swap because certain textures you need for the online game you're about to join are on the other disc!
spike said:
One sure way to make a console p[opular in my view is to embrace and befriend the modder/hacker community. It's these people that convinced MS that the xbox needed a larger HDD, the same for Sky+. There's some pretty clever people out there. Offer them a "development kit" (allowing them to easily modify the interface, restore factory settings/firmware, write applications for it etc. All it would have to be is a special cable and driver for connection to a PC) for a reasonable price for the console and they'll flock to it, doing a hell of a lot o R&D work for MS in the process.Of course, much like Sony, I'm guessing that MS are somewhat against this idea - possibly for the same reason that MS aren't happy with the idea of end users being able to skin WinXP.[Edited by spike on 2005-12-15 22:34:01]
Skyfrog said:
"allowing them to easily modify the interface, restore factory settings/firmware, write applications for it etc. All it would have to be is a special cable and driver for connection to a PC"They aren't going to do that, no way. They have enough trouble keeping people from pirating their games, cheating online and so on without basically giving them the keys to everything.
spike said:
People have the keys to everything anyway - it's just more of a pain to do. It happens with every console. Even Sony did the development thing with the PS1. The point is that M effectively shoot themselves in the foot with the positions they take - it certainly couldn't do any more harm that is already possible, and could really only be to their benefit.
enasni said:
These rumors are all but true.It is true that there aren't any games out that could exploit the capacity of a HD-DVD drive but someone could be in the making.I say give the consumers what they want and have a worldwide vote on it. Guarenteed the HD-DVD drive will win the hearts of billions.
DragonMaster said:
[b]Originally posted by vnf4ultra:[/b][quote]I can't see how they are going to do any truely great high def. games if they're limited to regular dvd media. Dvd's just don't hold enough data for massive high def games that could be developed. I think Microsoft should have used some type of high capacity media for the 360, to make it successful.[/quote]Nintendo 64Bad start for M$. Revolution will be able to work with DVDs. PS3's not going to have this kind of problems. I just worry about heat and Sony reliability.
mentaljedi said:
PS3 i have no doubt will do brilliant. Xbox i have no doubt that with the mistake of sticking to DVDs and releasing too early, over supplying etc... they won't do well. As for the revolution, it can go either way. I think its the price that will make or break it as well as compatibility with TVs. (The whole laser pen thing).
Kev_Boy said:
[b]Originally posted by vnf4ultra:[/b][quote]I can't see how they are going to do any truely great high def. games if they're limited to regular dvd media. Dvd's just don't hold enough data for massive high def games that could be developed. I think Microsoft should have used some type of high capacity media for the 360, to make it successful.[/quote]Quite true.Games are quickly approaching 5GB, and with next-gen console games, it's bound to get even bigger than that. I don't think people are gonna be keen on swapping discs or having to install it on a hard-drive either.I guess we'll just have to wait and see...
PanicX said:
You don't need HD-DVD to output a HD signal. Keep in mind that 720p is only running at 1024x720. Most gamers play higher resolutions on their PC's already using CD's for media. The only impact this would have is on running HD-DVD media, which not only isn't available yet, but losing support from its major backers, including Microsoft.
Subservient said:
[b]Originally posted by iantony:[/b][quote]Do you want your games full of high definition video or would you like a game you can actually play? The previous comments about DVDs being insufficient are a little bit fallacious. From what I understand, much of the extra storage on Bue Ray for example will be filled with Video. These types of games, with extensive cut scenes, have limited appeal for me (Final Fantasy anybody? zzZZZzzz...) Anyway, it would be a nuisance to have to disc swap because certain textures you need for the online game you're about to join are on the other disc![/quote]Excellent point. I would much rather have excellent gameplay then excellent cinematics. Although, MS would be smart to include an HD-DVD Drive, as much as I hate long cinematics, if they can mix amazing cinematics with amazing gameplay, I'd love it. But most games don't have both.
DragonMaster said:
[quote]Most gamers play higher resolutions on their PC's already using CD's for media.[/quote]With 5 CDs per game...Even some GameCube games can fill in 2 mini-DVDs.Now that the 3D engines are good enough, why aren't the videos rendeered by the GPU?
PanicX said:
[b]Originally posted by DragonMaster:[/b][quote]With 5 CDs per game...Even some GameCube games can fill in 2 mini-DVDs.Now that the 3D engines are good enough, why aren't the videos rendeered by the GPU?[/quote]The lastest games have 5 CD's, but even games 3 years old now can still output at 1024x768. And thats besides the point. The point being that the media doesn't necessarily determine the output signal. Infact many HD TV's convert the incoming signal to scale up or down as necessary. The only thing you [b]need[/b] HD-DVD for is to play HD-DVD media.
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