PlayStation 4 is destroying the Xbox One in Amazon customer poll

By on June 15, 2013, 11:30 AM
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Amazon is running a poll on their Facebook page asking readers which next generation console – Sony’s PlayStation 4 or Microsoft’s Xbox One – they prefer. If you’ve been reading story comments or message boards since E3, the results probably won’t surprise you much.

With more than five days left to vote, the Xbox One has amassed 1,754 votes (as of writing). The PlayStation 4, on the other hand, has 31,689 votes. Yeah, it’s not even remotely close. Sony executives must be feeling pretty happy at this point but at Microsoft, the atmosphere probably isn’t as cheery.

True, we won’t know how all of this pans out for a few more years but right now, the results are pretty telling. That’s because, unlike other polls you may find on fan sites, Amazon is a neutral party with a huge fan base that consists of both Sony and Microsoft homers (as well fans of games in general).

A quick look at Amazon’s Best Sellers list in their video games category solidifies what we are seeing in the poll. As of writing, the launch day edition of the PlayStation 4 is already sold out. Sony’s standard edition console – with a release date of December 31, 2013 – is currently ranked first ahead of the Xbox One.

That said, do you agree with the findings in Amazon’s poll thus far? If you had to choose between the two right now, would you go with Sony’s offering or lean more towards Microsoft?

Update (6/17): It appears Amazon took down the poll, but not before visitors had a chance to take a screenshot of the results. As of late Sunday the numbers were equally one-sided with 38984 votes for the PS4 versus 2162 for the Xbox One.




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Cycloid Torus Cycloid Torus said:

Eh, ah, lopsided isn't it. Could be ballot box stuffing, but probably not. Frankly, I would hold back...Xbox One might be heavily discounted if this stays true.

3 people like this | m4a4 m4a4 said:

I would like to know what you people think about this: [link]

I for one would love a Steam-like console, and I think MS has the potential to get it right... at least eventually :P

2 people like this | DuhWookie DuhWookie said:

Kinda expected only 1 person to vote for the xbox one xD

TechGamer TechGamer said:

Microsoft would be a better company if they actualy thought like real people instead of money hungry jerks the most ridiciulous ideas they released are mostly

-overpriced way over Ps4

-Membership

-Has weaker hardware then ps4

-internet constant checks and is a need for updates and for content

-Drm is allowed

congratz to sony for actually making a console which is good for anyone decent price good content I used to have an xbox but im giving xbox one a hands down. im not saying xbox one is bad it has its good and bad but microsoft need to get in the peoples shoes u cant make people pay that kind of money and then expect to add extra fees and charges with the console itself

3 people like this | cliffordcooley cliffordcooley, TechSpot Paladin, said:

were in an economy crisis for god sake
As much as I might agree with the rest of your comment, if we can justify purchasing a PS4 or XBox One there is no crisis.

TechGamer TechGamer said:

As much as I might agree with the rest of your comment, if we can justify purchasing a PS4 or XBox One there is no crisis.

we cannot justify it well lets just make an example im not that rich neighter poor but I made a strict budget of keeping 80Euros a month aside and I bought my pc in a year I know its a long time but lets just make it a normal person gets payed $1000 dollars or euros if u keep $50 each month youll have enough for it by when its out but unfortunatly the world has alot of bad cases which is why il just put down the statement as its true health care does go over a ps4 or xbox one. ty for making that statement

3 people like this | Guest said:

I don't care if they try to sell the Xbox One for $150, I will not support this type of thinking, neither should you.

Blkfx1 Blkfx1 said:

This is to be expected considering the DRM and internet connectivity situation.

Guest said:

Funny how no one looks at how the Sony handled DRM before, and how they didn't say out right that 3rd party publishers can also institute their own DRM for used party sales. The PS4 comes in at $100 less on their lowest tier.

I don't agree with everything MS does but to turn a blind eye to Sony's practices seems a little foolish.

soldier1969 soldier1969 said:

To me $4-500 dollars better spent on a gaming PC that would drive circles around the coming consoles. That amount of money would get you at least half way to a nice setup minus a descent display. Just saying.

2 people like this | ReederOnTheRun ReederOnTheRun said:

I would like to know what you people think about this: [link]

I for one would love a Steam-like console, and I think MS has the potential to get it right... at least eventually :P

I actually never thought of that, but it does make a lot of sense. It's a great idea if they pull it off.

I just wish Microsoft was able to get those facts into the headlines rather than the "ZOMG THEY ARE TRYING TO F**K US FOR NO REASON" scares.

1 person liked this | Guest said:

soldier1969 said:

To me $4-500 dollars better spent on a gaming PC that would drive circles around the coming consoles. That amount of money would get you at least half way to a nice setup minus a descent display. Just saying.

You're slipping dude...usually you would post your computer specs.

Mrcobbynot Mrcobbynot said:

I find the Japanese electronic company arrogant and I wont support it with my American dollars and I bet allot of other family guy Dads wont ether. Why would I want to drive to Gamestop anyway to trade a used disk for another warn out used disk. I tell my kid to buy a downloadable game and save myself the hassle. DRM is a red herring to which Sony hopes it can hang its hat on for a few years. Heck if people love storage media so much they should demand all future games come on carts like old school days. The Sony is only $50 cheaper when you include the Sony Big eye. The reason Microsoft is requiring the Kenect for the Xbox one is so developers will include it in there games. Third party developers will not risk the cash on a add on that most people will not have. The Kenect is smart tech and people will come to rely on it in the future. The Xbox has more family innovation. College kids have no jobs and live off mom and dad and teens get what dad buys so I think the guys that have a life and don't vote in this thing will buy the family product. Dads win Nerds lose

Mrcobbynot Mrcobbynot said:

The problem with PC gaming is You Will Spend Allot Of Time Driving Circles To The Walmart to upgrade your PC for the latest game. This game for that new card and more memory , and another new card and then crash , crash , because a driver failed to work with some such monitor and motherboard configuration. People that think their special because their a PC gamer spend more time telling people their a PC gamer than actually playing games. My PC is awesome , My PC is better than your PC. Blah.blah. blah. Guess what nerd my 10k in home theaters 2 of them blows away your PC in gaming. 2Panasonic 65" plasma , 2Yamaha 7.2 140watts per channel ,14 M&K speakers and 2 sub woofers ,dusty PS3 and over used xbox360. I dont have to wonder if my gaming system is configured correctly to play the game, It plays the game no problems EVERY TIME. Boom! Get a real job then step up to the plate and buy both systems

3 people like this | Puiu Puiu said:

I knew the PS4 will win any poll, but this is just funny. ^_^

@Mrcobbynot: I'm european, can you tell me what the new XBOX will bring besides an expensive skype camera and an underpowered gaming console? considering where I live I'm 90% sure that the TV stuff won't work.

As much as I want MS and SONY to be on par this generation, I just don't see it happening. The only place where XBOX will sell "ok" is NA (since that's their target market). They aren't even launching it in Asia.

BTW some of the problems with PC's you pointed out are because of MS and because of guys that actually go to wallmart to build a PC.

1 person liked this | Puiu Puiu said:

soldier1969 said:

To me $4-500 dollars better spent on a gaming PC that would drive circles around the coming consoles. That amount of money would get you at least half way to a nice setup minus a descent display. Just saying.

You're slipping dude...usually you would post your computer specs.

It only takes about 1000$ to build a decent PC that can play games in HD (30-60FPS max details). If you are patient you can find great deals.

6 people like this | Burty117 Burty117, TechSpot Chancellor, said:

The problem with PC gaming is You Will Spend Allot Of Time Driving Circles To The Walmart to upgrade your PC for the latest game. This game for that new card and more memory , and another new card and then crash , crash , because a driver failed to work with some such monitor and motherboard configuration. People that think their special because their a PC gamer spend more time telling people their a PC gamer than actually playing games. My PC is awesome , My PC is better than your PC. Blah.blah. blah. Guess what nerd my 10k in home theaters 2 of them blows away your PC in gaming. 2Panasonic 65" plasma , 2Yamaha 7.2 140watts per channel ,14 M&K speakers and 2 sub woofers ,dusty PS3 and over used xbox360. I dont have to wonder if my gaming system is configured correctly to play the game, It plays the game no problems EVERY TIME. Boom! Get a real job then step up to the plate and buy both systems

Haha! Your funny if what you say is true, why aren't you using a ps2? Or N64? If you put games in them they work every time too!

Either way, your setup is more expensive than 99% of all gaming rigs on the globe, I can also bet a lot of those gamers would prefer their setup over yours purely because they still get a better experience with decent headphones, sound card and higher Res screen plus almost all games on PC run at a higher framerate and better graphic settings. True computers are prone to crashing, but since windows 7, I'm yet to have a blue screen, my Xbox has crashed more often. Any "dad" who buys this are seriously not thinking about what they have really purchased, they are essentially proving to Microsoft they don't mind their rights being taken away from them, they don't mind paying over the odds for a less powerful machine and actually want to use more power to watch TV. Also if your ps3 is dusty, why not give it a clean and pickup a copy of "the last of us" you might just be surprised how good the ps3 still is

2 people like this | Guest said:

If your constantly going to Walmart to upgrade your PC, that is your first problem. The real problem is that u never knew about computers to start with. You don't buy computers from Walmart unless your just looking to just email and surf internet. Gaming computers are either built by you yourself or from companies that design for Gamers. There are only a handful that do it right. You can build a decent computer for gaming around $1000 that will last you a few years(roughly 3 maybe more, upgrading video card every 2-3 yrs unless its a higher end model) . If your a gamer you will spend around $1500-$2000 that can last you 5+ yrs, especially if when using high end parts. At some point though you will have to upgrade again, while true, you may not have to upgrade everything. Computers are more complex but its not for those who want a simple solution, especially if your a gamer as there are many issues that can and do happen while gaming. You will have to research any and all issues. In the end, find the soultion that works best for you. In a computer world, not all soultions work for everyone.

If you want something simple, works easier, can never be campared to a pc and basically never be called a real gamer, get a console. You will never be able to upgrade a console without spending $400+(new generations).

Mrcobbynot Mrcobbynot said:

First Off I was generalizing when I said Walmart aka brick and mortar. Does FRYs make more since. Now a days I would check new egg or Amazon. I have no need to build a computer and hunt down the latest drivers to config the system. I have built 2 386 machines in my early days before plug and play was ever heard of. When people actually built the computer from the ground up. Today kids plug in a new Video card or plug in some memory dimm and tell people they built a computer. Lmao Anybody can build a computer this day an age but why would I want to when I could have some slave laborer from China to do it. The last computer I bought was from tiger direct configured online and shipped to my door. Microsoft wont waste its time in Asia because the Asian people prefer buying machines built by Asians. The Xbox is built in China but I guess its still to American for there tastes. PC gaming is for lonely nerds who live with there parents because their to big of losers to find a life and a job. I could run my computer threw HDMI from my Vid card to my home theater but why deal with the headache of wondering if the game is going to crash. Then spend more time trying to tweak the game settings so it will run consistently. Whatever..Nerds go play WOWC and pull your puds or diddle your muffins to online porn because you cant get a life or a woman or man which ever you prefer.

MilwaukeeMike said:

The problem with PC gaming is You Will Spend Allot Of Time Driving Circles To The Walmart to upgrade your PC for the latest game.

Well, maybe newegg, not Walmart. But upgrading your PC is half the fun.

Why are we comparing the hardware so closely between the PS4 and Xbox? There has been recent news that shows games' complexity improve more during a life of a console than from one console generation to the next. Won't the better (gaming) system come down to how well the developers can make high tech games? The other differences just sound mostly like preferences.

5 people like this | cliffordcooley cliffordcooley, TechSpot Paladin, said:

why would I want to when I could have some slave laborer from China to do it.
You sir are the lowest of the low. Since you look down on China; I'd wish life of slavery on you, just to see if you still felt the same way after one year.

Camikazi said:

I don't care if they try to sell the Xbox One for $150, I will not support this type of thinking, neither should you.

Don't tell me what to do :P

blackbellysheep said:

Here's my 2 cents as how it affects me and what I'd like. I prefer to have a disc for later play, years later play, despite the so call future is digital I like a disc so I can see my monies product, also as we know, M$ likes so shaft its customers and don't give a **** about us and when they decide to upgrade or turn off some of they servers to hell with us and the money we've spent on games.. how many of us can whip out our xbox original and it's games or our sega or old N64's and use them, what will you be able do come 10 maybe 15 years and all the monies you've spent, what will you have to show for it. do you think you'll be able to play your games..

cliffordcooley cliffordcooley, TechSpot Paladin, said:

what will you be able do come 10 maybe 15 years and all the monies you've spent, what will you have to show for it. do you think you'll be able to play your games..
I hadn't even thought about a future with XBox One.

All Microsoft would need to do is shut down their activation server, and every XBox One would be rendered useless. Is this what you want out of a console? A brand spanking new console with a predetermined lifespan. Possibly a ticker that stops ticking when the next gen console is released.

2 people like this | lesuelrs said:

The problem with PC gaming is You Will Spend Allot Of Time Driving Circles To The Walmart to upgrade your PC for the latest game. This game for that new card and more memory , and another new card and then crash , crash , because a driver failed to work with some such monitor and motherboard configuration. People that think their special because their a PC gamer spend more time telling people their a PC gamer than actually playing games. My PC is awesome , My PC is better than your PC. Blah.blah. blah. Guess what nerd my 10k in home theaters 2 of them blows away your PC in gaming. 2Panasonic 65" plasma , 2Yamaha 7.2 140watts per channel ,14 M&K speakers and 2 sub woofers ,dusty PS3 and over used xbox360. I dont have to wonder if my gaming system is configured correctly to play the game, It plays the game no problems EVERY TIME. Boom! Get a real job then step up to the plate and buy both systems

Well if you weren't a dolt trying to upgrade your dell beige box with parts from walmart you wouldn't have those problems. My 2 year old pc is still more powerful than the xbox1 and PS4, which means it will never ever ever need any upgrades to play new games at xbx1/ps4 level graphics. And it has HDMI out, optical and analog 7.1 audio outs, and a usb xbox controller, and I use it both on my living room TV system, and my office monitor.

Also, televisions have terrible pixel density. My 23 inch 2048x1152 secondary monitor looks way better than my 55 inch 1920x1080 TV, and my 2560x1440 monitor makes any consumer television on the market look like a 1999 nokia cellphone LCD.

Your television sucks compared to a monitor, and even if you can't afford a computer monitor, then you can hook a pc up to a TV and get better than xbox1/ps4 performance along with loads of flexibility. If you use an operating system released in the last 3 years, drivers aren't even an issue. Complaining about drivers and getting pc components at wal mart means you are dumb, it doesn't mean pc's are dumb.

lesuelrs said:

The problem with PC gaming is You Will Spend Allot Of Time Driving Circles To The Walmart to upgrade your PC for the latest game.

Well, maybe newegg, not Walmart. But upgrading your PC is half the fun.

Why are we comparing the hardware so closely between the PS4 and Xbox? There has been recent news that shows games' complexity improve more during a life of a console than from one console generation to the next. Won't the better (gaming) system come down to how well the developers can make high tech games? The other differences just sound mostly like preferences.

The new systems are x86, which is what PC's are, so there won't be the dramatic learning curve for the platform like there was for the last generation.

The ps4 will be great for hipsters, as optical discs are the new vinyl. But I have no attachment to outdated and cumbersome technology, so I'll take my games like I take my music, video, and text- completely free of slow physical media.

Arionic Arionic said:

The problem with PC gaming is You Will Spend Allot Of Time Driving Circles To The Walmart to upgrade your PC for the latest game. This game for that new card and more memory , and another new card and then crash , crash , because a driver failed to work with some such monitor and motherboard configuration. People that think their special because their a PC gamer spend more time telling people their a PC gamer than actually playing games. My PC is awesome , My PC is better than your PC. Blah.blah. blah. Guess what nerd my 10k in home theaters 2 of them blows away your PC in gaming. 2Panasonic 65" plasma , 2Yamaha 7.2 140watts per channel ,14 M&K speakers and 2 sub woofers ,dusty PS3 and over used xbox360. I dont have to wonder if my gaming system is configured correctly to play the game, It plays the game no problems EVERY TIME. Boom! Get a real job then step up to the plate and buy both systems

The problem with your post is that it's stupid.

You obviously haven't built a great pc before. You can spend the money to buy a pc that will last for years. The more you spend, the longer it will last. I spent roughly 750$ on my pc, which isn't much at all, and it blows away the Xbox and ps4 hardware while being 2 years old. (not to mention you can do more on it in general)

Gaming isn't moving at that fast of a pace yet. When it gets to the point that every year brings some leap in gaming technology that computer components become obsolete that quick, we will be beyond naming things consoles and pc's and most likely have a machine that can make us dinner and wash our clothes for us while we play with just our minds.

Guest said:

Although always being a PlayStation person since the ps1 I went into E3 without any bias towards the new systems especially due to the few issues with the ps3 and also the fact that most of my friends had a 360 instead but after both announcements and honestly taking everything into consideration it is without doubt the ps4 will be the better system for me as well as almost all my friends which is great. A majority of the extra "features" that the xbox one has are completely unnecessary to me, ps4 has everything I need and for cheaper too. I don't want that gimmicky kinect either, it's cool for the first 2 weeks but its novelty wears off really fast

@Mrcobbynot people like you make me sick, your clear lack of reasoning along with your stereotypical nature and ignorance makes me almost feel sorry for you.

9Nails, TechSpot Paladin, said:

I usually end up buying both, but I'll buy the least expensive one first knowing that the prices will drop.

Guest said:

Steam is far superior than the aberration of Xbox One features, and Xbox Live + Games for WIndows Live combined.

Is not even like wise.

Guest said:

In the end everyone will be running to the xbox

1 person liked this | lawfer, TechSpot Paladin, said:

Doesn't surprise me at all.

The Xbox One was engineered with good intentions, but Microsoft's greedy executives have killed an otherwise good console.

Not only is it relatively slower than the PS4 due to the pretense that cloud gaming is the future, but it also costs more due to the needlessly mandatory inclusion of Kinect.

Even if you are an Xbox fan, and have been for years. it is NOT ok, it is not "cool", to support Microsoft and their clear anti-consumer practices. Don't let THEM tell you when, where, how, and who to share/trade/sell YOUR games with. Wake the **** up.

I already pre-ordered my PS4 with a Driveclub bundle. And I still got my PC.

Guest said:

Gaming pc for $500? uhhh that may be a bit far fetched...

cliffordcooley cliffordcooley, TechSpot Paladin, said:

Even if you are an Xbox fan, and have been for years. it is NOT ok, it is not "cool", to support Microsoft and their clear anti-consumer practices. Don't let THEM tell you when, where, how, and who to share/trade/sell YOUR games with. Wake the **** up.
Woohoo, lawfer were on the same side with this topic.

1 person liked this | Draconian said:

It's hilarious to see all these former Xbox fan boys falling all over themselves to pre-order a PS4. Precious. And for what? Because the Xbox One might have DRM? Welcome to PC gaming. Because the Xbox One might restrict used games? Again, PC gamers have dealt with that for years.

What about those of us who have preferred the Playstation from the beginning? Perhaps because it had a superior controller that was reminiscent of the Super Nintendo's controller. Or perhaps because the PS3 shipped with a Blu-Ray player. Or perhaps because PS3 games were free to play online, and there was no "red ring of death."

Guest said:

Lovely poll. I'm gonna get a 42" smart 3d tv + PS4.

TomSEA TomSEA, TechSpot Chancellor, said:

Gaming pc for $500? uhhh that may be a bit far fetched...

[link]

Not really. I wouldn't put this at the top of the heap by any stretch, but the specs certainly blow away what the PS4 or XBox One will have.

Draconian said:

[link]

Not really. I wouldn't put this at the top of the heap by any stretch, but the specs certainly blow away what the PS4 or XBox One will have.

Both the Xbox One and PS4 will have Radeon 7850ish graphics. That PC you linked has a Radeon 6450, which is a $40 card that offers terrible gaming performance. That PC is not even worth the $500.

Both consoles will actually be excellent gaming values when they debut. But the PC will re-capture the value crown as time goes on and new hardware is introduced, but the console hardware stays the same.

122jimbo 122jimbo said:

First Off I was generalizing when I said Walmart aka brick and mortar. Does FRYs make more since. Now a days I would check new egg or Amazon. I have no need to build a computer and hunt down the latest drivers to config the system. I have built 2 386 machines in my early days before plug and play was ever heard of. When people actually built the computer from the ground up. Today kids plug in a new Video card or plug in some memory dimm and tell people they built a computer. Lmao Anybody can build a computer this day an age but why would I want to when I could have some slave laborer from China to do it. The last computer I bought was from tiger direct configured online and shipped to my door. Microsoft wont waste its time in Asia because the Asian people prefer buying machines built by Asians. The Xbox is built in China but I guess its still to American for there tastes. PC gaming is for lonely nerds who live with there parents because their to big of losers to find a life and a job. I could run my computer threw HDMI from my Vid card to my home theater but why deal with the headache of wondering if the game is going to crash. Then spend more time trying to tweak the game settings so it will run consistently. Whatever..Nerds go play WOWC and pull your puds or diddle your muffins to online porn because you cant get a life or a woman or man which ever you prefer.

You obviously dont know anything about PC Gaming. Its ok stick with your over priced consoles and its shitty graphics that keep the Gaming industry from getting better. You fail to realize the capability of a Gaming PC with the MODs and the community content that is provided with many of the games for PCs. Its not just gaming either its freedom from Console Companies that tell you what you can and can't do.

lawfer, TechSpot Paladin, said:

Gaming pc for $500? uhhh that may be a bit far fetched...

[link]

Not really. I wouldn't put this at the top of the heap by any stretch, but the specs certainly blow away what the PS4 or XBox One will have.

That thing you linked to cannot possibly hope to run Battlefield 4 in 1080p at 60fps, and yet the PS4 can.

It's not about raw power, but optimization.

m4a4 m4a4 said:

Even if you are an Xbox fan, and have been for years. it is NOT ok, it is not "cool", to support Microsoft and their clear anti-consumer practices. Don't let THEM tell you when, where, how, and who to share/trade/sell YOUR games with. Wake the **** up.

If you support Steam, yet say this, your argument is invalid because of hypocrisy and being shallow minded...

1 person liked this | MilwaukeeMike said:

Don't let THEM tell you when, where, how, and who to share/trade/sell YOUR games with. Wake the **** up.

A while back there was a story on this website about being able to copy games that were on a disc. I put a comment in about why we shouldn't be able to do it because people will be sharing them like music CDs get copied. Someone responded that they've had games get scratched up because heavy use by kids is hard on electronics.

If your new PS4 game gets scratched and wrecked, you're out another $60. If your games are free to download with your login at Microsoft you don't have to worry about it. That's going to be a big benefit to some customers. And don't say MS might turn off their activation server. By the time that happens we'll be using the PS7 (probably off the cloud) and Xbox One will be emulated on our phones.

cliffordcooley cliffordcooley, TechSpot Paladin, said:

If you support Steam, yet say this, your argument is invalid because of hypocrisy and being shallow minded...
One thing about Steam, games are still playable after a PC upgrade. Steam games are not completely dependent on a dead PC architect, that is no longer being manufactured.

1 person liked this | Guest said:

Um yah, you make a few okay points. But first "Dads win Nerds lose"? How immature can you get? Second I am a PC gamer, gave up my consoles for it, and haven't changed or modded my computer in close to 3 years. I can still play current games on the settings I think are good (which is usually maxed).

Anyway learn to not sound so belligerent, uneducated, and immature. Especially if you really are a "dad". If you are, then we now will have more unintelligent social fodder (your kids) for our sociological system.

And for a very minor, last point: the Xbox One is made for people like you. The common sheep who like to combine and condense forms of entertainment ... the casual crowd as it were. Which honestly there's nothing wrong with being a part of, we need everyday sheep like you to keep this economy going. Unfortunately your kind holds a major share (I would guess 75+%) ((which is supported scientifically by psychological sciences of human typology)) of the world population. Which is why we saw Wii have such success. Xbox One will not fail, but it will fail where it matters the most:

With the educated, intelligent, and free-willed---"nerds" as you have called us---a group of people I proudly support. You support your majority with your dollar, I'm happy putting mine with the imaginative, the creative, and the nerds. Because when it comes down to it: we will always own people like you.

m4a4 m4a4 said:

One thing about Steam, games are still playable after a PC upgrade. Steam games are not completely dependent on a dead PC architect, that is no longer being manufactured.

You are suggesting that the XB1 OS architecture won't allow the next console to be backwards compatible, which I disagree. They are purposely making it as close to being a PC as possible (they are even including the Windows kernel) but gearing it towards gaming. And I don't think they are going to move away from that again (which would alienate backwards compatibility).

And last I checked, it will still be like most consoles before it even if games won't carry over.

cliffordcooley cliffordcooley, TechSpot Paladin, said:

You are suggesting that the XB1 OS architecture won't allow the next console to be backwards compatible, which I disagree.
If anything, I was debating the past not the future. I might be stupid but not stupid enough to debate what might be.

Darth Shiv Darth Shiv said:

what will you be able do come 10 maybe 15 years and all the monies you've spent, what will you have to show for it. do you think you'll be able to play your games..
I hadn't even thought about a future with XBox One.

All Microsoft would need to do is shut down their activation server, and every XBox One would be rendered useless. Is this what you want out of a console? A brand spanking new console with a predetermined lifespan. Possibly a ticker that stops ticking when the next gen console is released.

Or someone DDoS's the servers. Then the entire XBone userbase is rendered useless.

1 person liked this | Darth Shiv Darth Shiv said:

Even if you are an Xbox fan, and have been for years. it is NOT ok, it is not "cool", to support Microsoft and their clear anti-consumer practices. Don't let THEM tell you when, where, how, and who to share/trade/sell YOUR games with. Wake the **** up.

If you support Steam, yet say this, your argument is invalid because of hypocrisy and being shallow minded...

Steam has offline capability. Also PCs have more flexibility to remove DRM if Steam ever were to make things unavailable.

m4a4 m4a4 said:

Steam has offline capability. Also PCs have more flexibility to remove DRM if Steam ever were to make things unavailable.

Steam can afford offline capabilities only because it's all digital. The XB1 doesn't have that luxury... yet (I will bet it will go all digital eventually, allowing them to remove the strict DRM).

And I'm sure you could hack an XB1 if needed. It might even be easier to emulate on a PC because the architecture would be similar...

Darth Shiv Darth Shiv said:

They could enforce once-off online activation for discs. Have to deactivate to "move" the install.

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