China, AMD team on Opteron supercomputer

By on July 26, 2003, 5:51 AM
China plans to create the world's third most powerful supercomputer, which will also be among the first such machines to use the Opteron processor from U.S. chipmaker Advanced Micro Devices.

According to China's People's Daily, Chinese supercomputer maker Dawning Information Industry will use 2,000 of these chips to make the Dawning 4000A, with help from AMD.

In a related note, The Inq hints that Opterons may have already outsold Itaniums in only three months after its launch. Not so easy to tell given that Intel hasn't reported the number of Itaniums sold, however Inq's hint does make sense after all.




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Phantasm66 said:
We are hopefully getting a high performance cluster at my work soon (which I will hopefully be administering.) It should comprise about 100 Opteron CPUs. Not as cool as the above, of course, but nice.
---agissi--- said:
[quote][i]Originally posted by Phantasm66 [/i]We are hopefully getting a high performance cluster at my work soon (which I will hopefully be administering.) It should comprise about 100 Opteron CPUs. Not as cool as the above, of course, but nice. [/quote] lol, still very impressive. What are you going to be using that computer for?
Phantasm66 said:
If we get this kit, it will be being used to do some mathematical computations. We have several PhD students here, also Professors and research assistants that want to do some calculations that even on currently fairly powerful PCs just take far too long (I am talking one experiment taking over one month!) We are looking at ways to calculate these things more quickly, without getting a true supercomputer, which is beyond our budget.there is much more to it than that, of course. certain types of tasks compute better and faster on parallel setups like the kind of cluster that we want, and tailoring it to our needs is almost a full time job.We are hopefully getting something like this:[url]http://www.cray.com/products/systems/hpccluster/[/
rl]
---agissi--- said:
Sweet.. what kind of job do you have/what are you caluclating? Interesting :)
Phantasm66 said:
I am a computer technician / network administrator at a university. Essentially, the kit is used for number crunching (computations with large matrices, etc).
JSR said:
do that (number crunching) ..............best of all?
young&wild said:
JSR....those are very big mambo jambo calculations. Not just simple 1 +1 ..ehhehe ;).
JSR said:
you may be able to beat up on the x man, but, don't mess with a sr, ......jr...... an opteron processor is, an amd part....and, when the hammer arrives, this next month, ........that too, will also be an amd part......and, my question to phant, is simply this........that the amd component, pound for pound..........even in the 1+1 processors (as this was manifested to me by a washington state math student, whom had similar aspirations in math calc, as does phant), were, and still are, better for number crunching huge applications, and that is the reason for their worth, and, continued popularity.
young&wild said:
I think i got your previous post wrong. Try to write something in a more organised way or else you might end up confusing alot of people.P.S Pls stay away from drugs;).
JSR said:
could you keep your crib, .....in a more organized manner ;) p.s. stay off the nipple :grinthumb
Phantasm66 said:
[quote][i]Originally posted by young&wild [/i]I think i got your previous post wrong. Try to write something in a more organised way or else you might end up confusing alot of people.[/quote] True.
JSR said:
always...............known this :grinthumb but, i know everyone ......hehe...............accepts me :darth: ........warts and all ;P so, phant, back to my question.......does the amd processors prove to be the best at number crunching? i have always believed so, but, it would be nice to retrieve some corroboration from you
Phantasm66 said:
We don't actually have it, yet. We may still not get the budget.If we do, in about 6 months, I will be able to answer your question.
JSR said:
thx,....... i believe you have made the right choice, for the direction you are headed.
Phantasm66 said:
[quote][i]Originally posted by Phantasm66 [/i]We are hopefully getting a high performance cluster at my work soon (which I will hopefully be administering.) It should comprise about 100 Opteron CPUs. Not as cool as the above, of course, but nice. [/quote] Remember, of course, that this is a cluster of machines, not one singular monster of a computer...But when you invoke certain software, the cluster ACTS AS ONE MACHINE. At least, that's the theory. I still have a lot of work to do in this area, as it invovles writing optimised code and so forth.
JSR said:
no,...... i copy that. it obviously is the path being taken by many.........the leapfrog to new architecture should be a boon
Phantasm66 said:
Basically, clustering (which isn't that new) is increasingly being seen as a cheap alternative to supercomputing. At least, that's the theory.A secondary, related theory is that 64-bit computing on clusters will help to further augment this.
JSR said:
[url]http://www.aspsys.com/about/news/press/default.aspx/6.as
x[/url]
Phantasm66 said:
That not a bad link. I just read that and it was interesting, albeit brief.With high speed myrinet, that ASPEN system is probably quite a beast. With clusters, its not just the speed of the individual nodes, or how many you have, but also how fast the nodes can talk to each other which is the real factor. Network speed between nodes can be a real bottleneck, since the whole technology is based on the notion of "passing messages." Indeed, the implimentation I will initially be looking at (if we get the money) will be MPI, which is "Message Passing Interface." There is an MPI optimised compiler, and MPI runtime tools.
JSR said:
another link [url]http://www.rlx.com/solutions/solutions_clust_mpi.php[/u
l]
JSR said:
[url]http://www.mpi-softech.com/products/felix/productsheet/F
lix-ProductSheet.pdf[/url]
Phantasm66 said:
Of course, a cluster is only really a step up from a single PC. The article, here :[url]http://news.com.com/2100-1006_3-5055317.html?tag=fd_to
[/url]which julio posted about refers to a different, and greatly more powerful animal.
JSR said:
obsolesence comes in a flash.........and, i think it's exponential............things are just going to .....rocket
Phantasm66 said:
Well, in a sense these things age differently from PCs, because they are a completely different kind of computer, created for a very different purpose.Of course they do age, though. A device like we are talking about has so many more factors go into it than a PC does, and its subject to different kinds of rules.It also has a completely different set of problems, in some ways, but there is one problem we can never really escape....HEAT!Heat is the tormentor of computers, their arch enemy.
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