Id software announced that they are starting Doom 4. I can't wait. I built my last computer just to play Doom 3 !

I must admit I was rather dissapointed in Doom 3. Repetetive and boring gameplay just became a chore in the end. I'm more of a Quake man, prefer it over all the Doom games. With that said I'll still give Doom 4 a chance. Maybe ID have learnt from their mistakes and will make Doom 4 a good game.

I will probably build a computer just for Doom 4, but not exactly for it only, since many games I want to play I can't.

I agree with jtickner, Doom 3 was very repetitive.

I don`t like play the Doom4(

LOL @ Doom 3! all it had was the graphics, the game itslef was a pile of s##t if you ask me.

Doom 4 might be good, I'll give it a go. But there are many other games that I am looking forward to more than Doom 4.

I must admit I was rather dissapointed in Doom 3. Repetetive and boring gameplay just became a chore in the end. I'm more of a Quake man, prefer it over all the Doom games. With that said I'll still give Doom 4 a chance. Maybe ID have learnt from their mistakes and will make Doom 4 a good game.
Quake and Doom are the same thing, so I'm not sure how Doom qualifies as repetitive and boring where Quake does not? Quake4 has slightly more depth than other Doom/Quake titles but is still a typical linear FPS game.

Quake and Doom are not the same thing otherwise they wouldn't have different names, different enemies, different stories, different looking weapons... And so on. Quake and Doom are similar games and Quake comes out on top in their sibling rivalry. Honestly.. Who here had more fun with Doom 3 over Q4? I would much rather play the original Quake than Doom 3 any day.

Quake 4 is repetitive and gets really repetitive toward the end but still doesn't even come close to challenging Doom 3 in a competition of repetition. I'll show you..

Doom 3 - | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |

Quake 4 - | - ( _ ) ^ < > | - ( _ ) ^ <> |

LMAO @ ^
However, Doom 4 will bring to us the next ID Tech engine...and a PC overhaul. GeForce 11KGTX, here I come! ;)

Quake and Doom are not the same thing otherwise they wouldn't have different names, different enemies, different stories, different looking weapons... And so on. Quake and Doom are similar games and Quake comes out on top in their sibling rivalry. Honestly.. Who here had more fun with Doom 3 over Q4? I would much rather play the original Quake than Doom 3 any day.

Quake 4 is repetitive and gets really repetitive toward the end but still doesn't even come close to challenging Doom 3 in a competition of repetition. I'll show you..

Doom 3 - | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |

Quake 4 - | - ( _ ) ^ < > | - ( _ ) ^ <> |
No really I agree with you Quake4 is a better game than Doom3 in almost every respect, but it is still the same thing. That is a basic FPS title and nothing more. What does Quake4 have over Doom3? Marginally better graphics a few more cutscenes and extremely linear vehicle levels. This is why if Doom3 equates to repetitive and boring gameplay then so do all of the Quake/Doom games.

I think I am going to get Quake 3 and try it out, as I have never tried Quake.

Quake 3 is more like an Unreal game than other Quake games. Quake 1 and 2 are what most people would tell you to play.

I think I am going to get Quake 3 and try it out, as I have never tried Quake.

Good luck with that.

If you wish to play, I suggest you to buy via Steam, or any video stores.

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I find em more like this:

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Doom 4 is supposed to use ID Tech 5, I would get the game to see the engine, but I wouldn't upgrade my PC to play the game.

I think I am going to get Quake 3 and try it out, as I have never tried Quake.
IMHO Unreal Tournament is superior to Quake3 and the first Unreal game was better than Quake or Quake2.

All of the Quake series have been quite different apart from 2 and 4.

Quake 1 had alternating "base" and "castle" maps with different types of enemies. It was quite unique for it's time and is the engine that Half Life was based upon.

Quake 2 is a different storyline based on the usual one marine takes on a horde of cyborg aliens (the Strogg). It was less popular with online players. It has no relation to Quake 1.

Quake 3 is a multiplayer only hybrid of all the Quake games and Doom, the maps have a sort of "Quake 1 in technicolor" feel about them. The player models include the marines from Doom, Quake and Quake 2 as well as host of cyborgs and aliens and a Strogg character, so at the time it was really just a multplayer medley of all of ID's games to showcase the new engine.

Quake 4 (based on Doom3) is another Strogg based game and is the sequel to Quake 2.

Unlike the above Doom does stick to it's own storyline, familiar plot and the usual enemies. Through 1 to 3 they have been pretty consistently linear and samey.

If you want online play and you have a half decent system then Unreal Tournament 2004 is the way to go. You can pick it up for £10 these days.

Thats a problem, running on dial up I think I am going to get Quake 2 and 4, and hope to god I can get Quake 4 running on my machine.

Thats a problem, running on dial up I think I am going to get Quake 2 and 4, and hope to god I can get Quake 4 running on my machine.
Quake 4 will not run well if at all on that FX 5200, stick to Quake 2 or 3. You can still play Quake 3 offline vs bots if you like that kind of thing. If you haven't already played Unreal/UT, get those as they will run well on your system.

Well, I get tired of just fighting bots. UT (original) is setting on my machine and never gets played. The computer I run my games on is a Slight bit better, having a radeon 9250 pro in it, but slightly worse processor.

Well, I get tired of just fighting bots. UT (original) is setting on my machine and never gets played. The computer I run my games on is a Slight bit better, having a radeon 9250 pro in it, but slightly worse processor.
If you don't like UT then don't bother with Quake 3. The 9250 Pro will also struggle with Quake 4. To run Quake 4 decently you'd probably need a minimum of 9800 non Pro.

I thought that Doom 3 was quite a PoS as a game, though at the time it did show off some rather splendid looking graphics, but thats about it. It was more of like a Technology Showcase, much like how Unreal Tournament is.

Unreal Tournament itself isn't much of a game but its rather made to demonstrate how well their engine can be utilised in the right hands, to be used in all sorts of games e.g. Gears of War and Vegas (albeit the source files that they attained in vegas 2 were unpolished and frankly didn't show off the true abilities of the unreal 3.0 engine. Same goes to Vegas 2)

I never quite like John Carmack's proprietary engine. it always seemed so shiny and sparkly for some reason, much like how with Splinter Cell 3 i think Sam Fisher was mr Shiny plastic suit man.

Overall Doom 3 wasn't very immersive, its tricks were cheap (look out for medikits right in the middle of nowhere or in an extremely awkward spot. most likely lights go out, zombies come out of nowhere etc etc, crap goes on) It wasn't even a tad scary and i sort of just uninstalled it without finishing the game.

Quake 4 however i finished and though it wasn't the best of games, i enjoyed the shooting heh. Trigger happy cannon fodder game but its good XD

I hope Doom 4 fills the void on how a survival horror shooter should be, and don't even start with FEAR. Absolutely not frightening at all even with all the lights off and playing at night.

a friend of mine is a doom fanatic. i dont hate it, just cant sit around playing it all the time lol. he'll def be getting this one

I'm just excited to play with something new from Carmack.

Here's a question

Will it be a new storyline?
Because Doom 3 was a retelling of #1 if I'm not mistaken

Or will Doom 4 be a retelling of Doom 2?
If so, Does someone have enough time to mod it into a Duke Nukem game?

If so, Does someone have enough time to mod it into a Duke Nukem game?

Haha, easier said than done really... It takes alot of effort and time and planning as well if you're to make something which turns out NOT 1/2 assed. Duke Nukem Forever seems to be making its way out so why not wait for that i would say.

Yes, mods aren't something you can just think up and *poof* it appears. It takes the planning, model making, animation, scripting, etc.

haha
tell that to the source engine, rediculous # of mods

and DNF has seen so many delays

its actually been killed completly and restarted twice

EDIT:

errr... once i think, not twice

lol the source engine is a highly modifyable engine. :P its dependent on which engine you work on, and how good the tools out there for it are, be it official or 3rd party :X

I do Games Dev for a living >_> i should know :X

Who knows if DNF will ever make it out
honestly, it has to be one hell of a game if not its not going to affect me one bit.

fair enough

what engine does doom 3 run on and what will #4 run on?

Doom 3 basically ran off it's own engine, the Doom 3 engine (id Tech 4 engine),
And as posted earlier Doom 4 is supposed to be coming along with the id Tech 5 engine.

I have seen rumors of it being multiplatform. What do you all know about this?

I think it'd be fabulous to see this on the PS3.

You know what would be fabulous?

a multiplatform engine, that allowed crossplay

like PC users could join the same games as "controller users"

My PIII/600MHZ struggles to play Doom 3, i get 4-5fps lol. I am building a secondary computer soon just for the new games, so i should be able to play Doom 3 soon, and Doom 4 in the future.

Lol, sorry General. I haven't had to deal with that yet, and hope to god I never do.

PimpPanther, I somewhat agree with you. That is what they did with Shadowrun, I believe. It would be ok, but the downside is that the game couldn't be based around accuracy as much as just run and gun.

well run and gun is one of the most fun kinda

it would have to be DM and team DM mostly


team strategy based multiplayer would not likely be fun

I prefer having skill involved (games such as counter-strike) where headshots actually kill in one hit.

Plus, Being horror game you'd think that the multiplayer would be better as co-op....

i play CS: source

yeah strategy team styled games are fun, but sometimes you want a run-n-gun game

Co-op would be awesome though

Yeah, but if I am gonna play a run and gun I want it to be more like the Gears of War, Resident Evil 4, etc. style game play. Maybe even some Devil May Cry 3rd person style gameplay.

So, it'd be nice if they incorporated the PC/360/PS3 co-op.

I think it'd be amazing if they added Wii to the list of consoles and somehow made it cross platform....

I think I am looking forward to RAGE more than Doom 4, RAGE will be the first implementation of ID Tech 5 yeah? then Doom 4 will use it aswell, then probably another quake using it too.

Oh and there is a prey sequal coming isn't there? Is that done by ID? anyone know if that is using Tech 5? the original used Tech 4.

Well, I am probably wrong but I thought I read that Doom 4 would be the first.

I just hope that it's not a huge let down like Doom 3. The redundant gameplay really just killed what could've been a good game. The weapons sucked too, ID should have known that a crappy multi-player would've pissed us off, real hype killer if you know what I mean. The Source engine on the other hand is, in my honest opinion, the best engine ever. Super modable, frequently updated to make the already best graphics ever even better. Source just can't be beat.

I guess I'll go PWN some n00bs in CS:S in a minute. I need some practice for dust2 since I have a CAL match for it Monday.

Umm.. why would you hope it sucks?

Anyway, I agree to a point. The engine is getting to the point that it is over-run by idiots hacking it and cracking certain parts because of the accidental mistake that may have happened in the back of a Ford Edsel, the program Steam. If done right, and on purpose (j/k, of course) it could have been great. But they ruined it for anyone too poor to get DSL/Cable or is getting screwed by companies who offer that.

Well, I am probably wrong but I thought I read that Doom 4 would be the first.

I just sort or presumed RAGE would be first as it was announced first (with Tech 5) and we have seen more of it (havent seen anything from Doom 4 yet) but who knows. either could come out first using Tech 5.

I understand, I also had never heard of RAGE until now. :P

You havent heard of rage? :O you should look at the trailer (http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/48289).

Umm.. why would you hope it sucks?

Whoops, typo on my part.

Lol, ok, I thought you meant that.....

Anyway

anyone hear rumors of the Source 2 engine?
Valve/Steam's next engine is rumored to be in progress and of amazing standards

Source 2 I haven't heard of (well I spose I have now ) could be nice. Is it actually a completely new engine or just a major update to it compared to the smallish updates done to it over time?

Not entirely sure either way

but i'd like to find out

Ive heard the rumor from 2-3 people completely seperately


EDIT:

Google is my friend
http://www.halflife2.net/forums/showthread.php?t=105730

Once again, only a rumor, but im not crazy

I'll bet its a complete revamp. I DON"T think that specific one was source 2, but a beta version (as stated on that page) of the standard engine update.

I think the next engine will be just like the current, like having a supermodel come up to you in the bar, you take her out for a drink, then find out she has had 3 kids, her career has failed, and she has STD's.

They really messed up with Steam, IMHO.

/\ Hahahhahahahahahahaha!

anyways I really need to stop browsing Techspot and really get back to my work, I have a project plan I need to complete in like 5 hours eek.

Can't wait for Doom 4 i hope they really push the boat out.