Smoking, do you do it?

Do you smoke?

It does not matter for
If I am bored...etc.
When I am nervy...etc.

Its either yes or no.

Nope....quit 11 years ago.....hope it was soon enough.

It really depends, each ciggy takes 15 minutes off your life span.. How many did u smoke?

Yes, I smoke around 30 to 40 cigarettes a day and have done since I was about 15 years old.

There is no disputing the fact that smoking is bad for you(hell, life is bad for you lol). However, to suggest in a factual way, that each cigarette knocks 15 minutes off your life is absurd.

As an example: My father who is 78 years old has smoked around 40 cigarettes a day since he was fifteen. If you care to do the calculations(I have;)) That means he`s lost 26 years off of his life thus far. I have serious doubts that had he not smoked, he could be expected to live to being 104 years old. :p

Sweeping statements seldom hold true, or in this case, even make much sense.

Regards Howard :)

Just a bad habit.

what i want to know is how does howard have time to do all he does on here then step outside 30-40 times a day ;)

ahh, that's what i was thinking ;) i'd hate to have to go outside that many times every day, especially in good old british weather

Yeah, the weather is absolutely crap at the moment. High winds and torrential rain. Hell, I doub`t I`d even be able to light the damn things lol.

Regards Howard :)

Does the occasional cigar count as smoking?

Yes, I reckon it does mate. ;)

Regards Howard :)

Yeah I smoke, about a 1/2 pack a day.

Yes, I reckon it does mate. ;)

Regards Howard :)
Blast! ...I voted wrong :dead:

No worries, I`ll alter the vote accordingly mate.

Regards Howard :)

Edit: Done.

Hell, Smoking is BAD. No doubt about that, But I don't understand why People like "God of Mana" get offended if other people do it? I mean, its become socially unacceptable to smoke IN FRONT of other people, and smokers don't seem to have a problem, so whats the issue? For some people, smoking relieves stress and such. I say, If smokers decide to smoke, so be it. Hey, if they want to choose to lose 10 years or whatever so be it, It's not as if everyone who smokes is a bad person, it's just a choice or habit. Thats My Opinion. And Howard is a GOD! :P

Yeah, the weather is absolutely crap at the moment. High winds and torrential rain. Hell, I doub`t I`d even be able to light the damn things lol.
You just need one of these:
http://www.moontrail.com/accessrs/a-windmill_lighter/family_album.jpg
Windmill Windproof & Stormproof Lighter

Lol, cheers mate. I already have a Zippo that`s pretty good at lighting in the wind, but the torrential rain we`ve had today is a complete no no. It just makes `em soggy and hard to light. :p

Regards Howard :)

Howard, I got a lighter that will still light in wind or if wet. I think it's a military based design or something. Has a ruberrized case and looks very much like the yellow one Dave posted above but is dark grey.

No smoking for myself. But I do have habits that are just as costly. Like reaching my hand into my case. Couldnt that kill me tomorrow if I touched or did something wrong. I mean, highly unlikely with the way boards are designed today. But what if I was screwing on my case side, pressed too hard and the screwdrive slipped passed the fan and into that plugged in 1kw powersupply, ooops. I'd rather have a smoke than for that to happen.

Hell, Smoking is BAD. No doubt about that, But I don't understand why People like "God of Mana" get offended if other people do it? I mean, its become socially unacceptable to smoke IN FRONT of other people, and smokers don't seem to have a problem, so whats the issue? For some people, smoking relieves stress and such. I say, If smokers decide to smoke, so be it. Hey, if they want to choose to lose 10 years or whatever so be it, It's not as if everyone who smokes is a bad person, it's just a choice or habit. Thats My Opinion. And Howard is a GOD! :P
Just stating the obvious here: I can understand why people get offended when others smoke in front of them. Second-hand smoke can cause cancer. Also, cigarettes, unlike alcohol, have a strong odor that is unpleasant to some. Aversion to smokers in this light is not unlike aversion to people who fart excessively in front of others.

Whats the point in making a thread about smoking and then slagging off poeple who do??

It's like saying "I want an arguement"!!

Just seems a rather pointless thing to do to me, anyone else feel the same?

I second that notion Rik, if you know that you're so "left side" oppose to smoking then why make a thread if you know you're going to argue. Foremost passed the simple issue. I have great respect for howards, although I've only been here 6 months, he's helped me often, and countless others, smoking or non smoking users btw.

cigarettes, unlike alcohol, have a strong odor that is unpleasant to some. Aversion to smokers in this light is not unlike aversion to people who fart excessively in front of others.

I won`t disagree with you there mate.

However, here in the UK a ban on smoking in enclosed public places was introduced on the 1/7/07. I`m not going to disagree with that either.

However, one complaint I`ve heard from a couple of non smokers is that now there`s no smell of smoke in the pub, all you can smell is peoples body odour lol. Another complaint is that the pubs and bars are empty cause nearly every ones out side puffing away lol.

Regards Howard :)

I smoke, and I hate myself for it ...
I'm totally against corporate fatcats and here I am, supporting them!

It's a part of me now ... OH GOD HELP ME! :dead:

Wow! Since my post, I'd been away for awhile doing "life" things which were keeping me very busy and still do. This topic really took off a bit. Sorry if I offended the OP in any way with my lack of response to his question. I'd smoked a couple packs a day from the age of 17 until about 43 (11 years ago).

The reason I stated that I hoped I'd quit soon enough is because emphysema and COPD can crop up decades later in smokers...even after they'd quit. My mother passed away last year from that disease...and slowly suffocating is no way to die..believe me. I watched it happen....and I sure as hell don't want it to happen to me.

I'm happy I've quit....hopefully, it added many more years for me to enjoy my children (and hopefully, grandchildren) but everybody has the perfect right to decide their own lives, as long as they're not infringing on the lives of others. It just saddens me to see it, is all.

Howard, understand that some people...because of things that may have happened to loved ones, can sometimes be very vehement about things. That's where the anger comes in. But, I'm sure deep down, you realize that people only want to see the best for you.

Damn, this is about the most wind I've had in a long time. See, it's working already!!! :haha:

I find the odour of cigars very errmmm... nasty. Well first of all im asmatic so i cant stand the stuff.

Howard, i apologise for insulting you like that,i guess i was just having one of those days.( a bad one)
Howard, can you please edit or delete the post err...flaming me back. (no offence)
I guess i was just a little surprized that my biggest idol smokes. reply soon :)

absolutely. cigars are one of the little pleasures in life and I cannot stand anti-smoking nazis. I will not patronize a restaurant, casino, or club that outright forbids smoking. I never smoke in a restaurant (my wife does and enjoys her cigarettes), occasionally in a bar, and often in a casino.

I can understand people who might like it and I try to be polite about, but I ask they respect my rights as well.

If you're going to ban smoking, ban other offensive behaviors like saggy pants with buttcrack showing, midriffs, butts with slvt stamps (tattoos), loud music, body piercings, and morbid obesity

God Of Mana:

I accept your apology and as far as I`m concerned it`s over and done with. ;)

I have deleted the posts concerned as per your request.

Regards Howard :)

Thanks , Im gonna delete (or edit) mine.
Was having trouble replying because someone banned me for a while.
(till 01/10/07 At 10:00pm)

You were never banned at any stage. so I don`t know what makes you think that.

Regards Howard :)

Yes, I smoke around 30 to 40 cigarettes a day and have done since I was about 15 years old.

Holy crap, that's a crapload :haha:

I know people who smoke alot but 40 a day... that's alot :|

NO really! I was! When I logged in, a VBulleten thing came up and said(well wrote): You have been banned from Techspot
Reason for ban: None
Ban will be lifted: 10/01/07 10;00pm.

Man I knew I should've taken a screenie....

NO really! I was! When I logged in, a VBulleten thing came up and said(well wrote): You have been banned from Techspot
Reason for ban: None
Ban will be lifted: 10/01/07 10;00pm.

Man I knew I should've taken a screenie....
New reason for ban: You said "screenie" :haha:

yes. At least 12.5 grams baccy a day and i would smoke 30 tailormade could i afford it. Smoking is cool, thats why i started it, thats why we all started. p.s. no arguements, smoking is cool and if you dont think so your an ex smoker who is deluding themseves or you dont have any style. as for women tell me a parisian girl with a gap in her front teeth smoking a gauloise isnt both cool and sexy.................even better if you smoke yourself you dont smell her turd breath when you have succeded in seducing her.

If you're going to ban smoking, ban other offensive behaviors like saggy pants with buttcrack showing, midriffs, butts with slvt stamps (tattoos), loud music, body piercings, and morbid obesity

I do see what you are saying, but those behaviors do not directly cause physical harm to other people, whereas second hand smoke does. If someone chooses to smoke, drink, do meth, whatever, i could care less, as long as you dont harm others in the process.

They have banned smoking in resturants of some cities around where I live. I hope it doesn't become more widespread (it will).

Last Friday I went to dinner with my sister and the place was packed, we told the hostess that we didn't have a smoking preference and they seated us in non-smoking (neither of us smoke). The problem with that is we sat in an area that had 5 kids easily within bread roll throwing distance of a 5 year old, and each of the 5 at some point went into a screaming fit. My guess is most new parents (at least those taking their kids to a fairly nice resturant) would be so paranoid of second hand smoke that they would always request non-smoking section. So in order to avoid kids, I think I'm going to start explicitly requesting smoking whenever possible.

I'd much rather see screaming kids banned from public places than smoking.

Great post SNGX, had me rolling around the floor in fits of laughter.

Unfortunately, we no longer have a choice here in the UK. Our nanny state government has banned smoking in all enclosed public spaces. This even extends to bus shelters where the wind howls through lol.

Regards Howard :)

Well, to avoid raising anyone's ire I will just say that I have never smoked and never will. Years ago my Dad had a car accident that broke some ribs and punctured a lung. He had a drain put in to drain the fluid from his lungs while it healed. Lets just say that the stuff coming out was so disgusting that I get queasy 14 years later!

Minnesota had a law go into effect on Oct. 1, 2007 that pretty much bans smoking in any public place (bars, restaraunts, etc...). Also, didn't England just ban smoking in cars or while driving?

i think they want to ban lighting up whilst driving (which is fair enough imho, it takes your attention from the road) but i constantly get confused on the "in your car" thing was banned, i see people do it so maybe it wasn't, i'm not sure :p

they have banned it in public places (as howard said) which does indeed include bus stops but if you're moving it's ok apparently. someone i know was stood at a bus shelter and was the only one there and some police pulled up and told him he wasn't allowed to smoke there. he said he was the only person but they were having none of it and said it was ok if he was walking or something so he started pacing backwards and forwards a couple of steps and they said it was ok :D

personally i think the lighting up in a car ban is a good idea from my experience little over a year ago (i think howard knows about this) basically there was a very nasty car crash (we don't call it an accident because it wasn't) where a speeding drunk driver hit us because she tried to light up whilst going round a corner

If you're going to ban smoking, ban other offensive behaviors like saggy pants with buttcrack showing, midriffs, butts with slvt stamps (tattoos), loud music, body piercings, and morbid obesity

made me chuckle that did ;)

personally i think the lighting up in a car ban is a good idea from my experience little over a year ago (i think howard knows about this) basically there was a very nasty car crash (we don't call it an accident because it wasn't) where a speeding drunk driver hit us because she tried to light up whilst going round a corner

Something similar happen to me, but he dropped his lighter instead and went down to pick it up and ran a red light :(

Grandfather did basically the same thing with me in the car wilst he was smoking. He tried to throw a cig out the window while we were going around a bend in the road. Wind blew it back in and not thinking he reached down to grab it. I had been reading at the time, but looked up when I felt us hit the curb in time to see us wipeout a sign that alerted drivers to the bend!

LOL! Who thought ciggys could be funny. LOL
But I lost my granddad to lung cancer caused by smoking. (R.I.P)
I guess thats why I am so emotional about the topic. Hmmm thats maybe why i started this topic. (subconsciously)

YOU can smoke in public in my country but you can't do so in enclosed spaces such as elevators, bathrooms. (rule:If you can see da light, gimme a lite.) :)

if you're referring to nickslick74's post i wouldn't really call it funny

you could say it was ironic, taking out a sign about the bend, but personally i wouldn't be laughing, more of a "huh, that's ironic"

I`m sorry to hear you lost your grandfather due to lung cancer.

However, this is a public forum and you were the one who started the thread. Therefore, you shouldn`t be too surprised at some of the comments people make.

If you`re(quite understandably) sensitive, then perhaps it would have been prudent not to start the thread in the first place.

Regards Howard :)

Yes, i agree with you rik. lol

And for the record, i don't smoke. I just think it's a disgusting habit and all us who don't smoke have to suffer breathing it in all the time. :(

Regards Jase :)

WOW. Never saw that Jase123 was anywhere close to being banned. 0.0 Oh well, we'll miss ya.

I think I made this thread to find out how many of the nerds (don't try to deny it)including me, smoke at any time.
Just wanted some statstics I guess.

hogwash.

read The Lies about Smoke & Smoking



from: http://www.smokersclubinc.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=518,

gentlemen (and ladies) feel free to toke up.

I do. Light cigars ( size as cigarette ) is enough for me. it helps to go sleep better.
But i'm surprised the facts that tedster gives out. I will keep that for future reference.

nope:cool: i quit almost three years ago and never had a cigarette since then

Bad habit i know, but yes. The lighter in the middle looks like some kind of transformer :)

hogwash.

read The Lies about Smoke & Smoking



from: http://www.smokersclubinc.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=518,

gentlemen (and ladies) feel free to toke up.

From that article: "Never has an argument been won based on statistic alone." Not only is this gramatically incorrect, but there are a lot of strong statements like this in the article without references. Tedster, you're going to have to do better than that to convince us that SHS is good for children...

EDIT:
This reminds me of a related topic in the news recently. The University of California Board of Regents is struggling with the issue of allowing tobacco companies to fund research on the effects of tobacco use. The most recent conclusion has been to allow it with stricter than average monitoring of the research. It is a very interesting topic. Check it out: http://ucsdguardian.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=60&Itemid=2