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Acer X1200 & Windows XP Install Problem
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Acer X1200 & Windows XP Install Problem
I appreciate any help or suggestions offered.
I bought an Acer Aspire X1200 which came preloaded with Vista. Two critical programs I use cannot run on Vista and require XP. I reformatted the HHD with FDISK and Format from a DOS command, loaded the Windows XP disk. After all the drivers were loaded from the XP disk, I got the BSOD "STOP: 0x0000007B". I thought there was a problem with the boot sector. I removed the HDD and hooked it to another computer. The Windows install proceeded properly allowing me to partition and format the drive. It loaded the first round of the OS. I removed the HDD and re-installed it to the Acer X1200. BSOD again with the same error code. I seem to have narrowed the problem to the HDD controller on the Acer. During boot-up I can see that it is using an AHCI controller. Several posts have mentioned XP not having the drivers in its install disk. I have gone into BIOS to change the ACHI to IDE. Unfortunately, this is not an option in the Phoenix R01-A2 BIOS that Acer installed. There are no other BIOS firmware updates or downgrades that I have been able to locate that would allow me to change from AHCI to IDE. I have tried several different generic AHCI drivers (Intel) slipped into the XP install disk using nLite. These have not worked. I contacted Acer tech support but they would not provide any information other than "no drivers posted - no support for anything other than Vista". Their website has a file for formatting the HDD (for the X1200) for use in downgrading to Windows XP. However the use of this also results in a BSOD with a STOP: C000021a. Acer has not provided any information as to the actual manufacturer of the HDD controller chipset (where I could get drivers directly from them). Does anyone know what drivers I can use that will allow me to access the HDD for a Windows install? Also, if I can load DOS and access the HDD, why can't XP installation load? Any ideas on how I can get Windows XP loaded on this machine? Thanks |
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Hi
not sure why you formatted it with DOS first, XP disks can be booted from and the install ran from there, maybe thats the problem. regards |
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The XP install disk never got far enough for me to have the option. That's why I first used the DOS disks and then connected the HDD to another computer, ran the XP install disk and that worked fine. I was able to partition and format the disk from XP install CD ONLY after connecting it to another machine. That's how I eliminated the HDD and its MBR as the problem. The drive itself could operate fine when connected to another computer (older MB). But when connected back to the Acer X1200, the drive could no longer boot. It CAN boot with Vista, but not with XP. That's because XP does not have the drivers for the AHCI controller. Acer does not provide any drivers for this machine. Acer does not provide any specifications for this machine. Acer tech support doesn't know anything if it's not listed on their website. So I cannot find out what chipset this computer uses and therefore cannot find the right drivers to use. I do not have the option to change the mode from AHCI to IDE in the system BIOS (which would be a fix if there was an option).
So what I need is to know what chipset the Acer x1200 uses so I can see if there are XP drivers available. (The generic Intel Mass Storage AHCI drivers do not work.) |
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xp drivers
here are the drivers : (at the end of the article)
***aramistech.com/reviews/acer-x1200-mini-pc-450/ |
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Cinemagic:
Check the last 2 entries in this thread: digitimes.com/Backgrounders/ArtReview.asp?datePublish=2008/07/09&seq=201&pages=PR "The GeForce 8200 is what Nvidia likes to call an mGPU which is just marketing for IGP chipset. Go to Download drivers on Nvidia's website. Product type: nForce. Series: 7. Product: 780a/750a.../GeForce 8" "After following the above. On the download driver page check out the "RAID Floppy Disk Install" PDF on the left-hand "Additional Info" bar for instructions on how to extract the files you need from the package." |
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Thank you.
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I had the same issue and this thread was a great help. Thanks!
However, not that I have XP up and it seems to be ok, there is an issue with the network card drivers. I get the message that "network cable is uplugged" when its not. I got the same message on Vista and had to reinstall the drivers to get the network card to work properly. I'm looking for which drivers you all are using for this? I have nvenetfd.inf and nvnetbus.inf in the Ethernet folder of the drivers downloaded from terminator911's link. I try to update driver for the nVidia nForce Networking Controller to either of these, but nothing changes. What should I use as a driver? Thanks. |
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Thanks, Traker1001.
However, I've given up trying to install XP. I finally had it with the nic card working, but then it wouldn't even boot after a restart. I had the nic card back working with vista, but now I've lost it again. This has been insanely time consuming and frustrating. I've restarted this computer more times in the last week than I've restarted my PowerBook in 4 years. Should have stuck with a Mac... Jason |
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What's wrong with Vista?
Why is it that you cannot run Vista on this system?
After SP1 Vista is much better and with a couple of tweaks it runs like a champ. Why not give it another try? |
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One thing you might try is a VM on vista loaded with XP. I have to agree vista runs very well after SP1 and I have even grown to like it a little more myself.
The only reason I am running xp currently is because I need new wireless adapters. Once I get those I will alt-f10 my way back to vista 64. |
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I just learned about alt+f10 and will give that route a try to get back my ethernet drivers on Vista.
I did put XP on through Virtual PC. I need XP to run AutoCAD 2006 (though I can run as an administrator in Vista, it has crashed a few times already, which worries me and I'd prefer not to run it through V-PC because it does require a lot of resources). Also, there is some study software for the Architectural Record Exams that will not run on Vista at all. Thanks again for the help. Jason |
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I have been fighting with the system for last couple of days. I am able to install XP but after the second reboot it gives me a BSOD.
The XP drivers are furnished on the included CD. I extracted these and added them to the XP installlation CD using nLite - a process which has worked very well in the past. I tried various different combinations with the same result - BSOD. There was never a chance of installing the drivers from the CD!!!! After reading this thread I am going to try once again. Hope the damn thing wotks. Vista installed very smoothly but won't run some of the Cad/Cam application I need. |
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I recently purchased the Acer x1200. I want to load Windows XP Pro.
I downloaded the drivers at 'aramistech.com/reviews/acer-x1200-mini-pc-450/', but the system doesn't have a floppy drive. From what I am picking up the drivers have to be loaded while loading the OS. The installation will be asking for a floppy [erm wha?] Has anyone actually been able to load XP Pro on this system? Please reply and let me know how YOU did it. Stingray57 at Hotmail.com Thanks. |
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I did manage to do it. This is what I did.
You will have to prepare fresh installation cd on a different PC. Download nLite - 1.48 is the current version - and install it. It does require some version of dotnet framework. Install it. Place your unadulterated XP installation cd in the drive. Start nLite. point to the cd/ dvd drive as the source. nLite will copy the source to your preferred location on the hdd. On the next screen from available options select add drivers & create iso. On the next screen point to the location where you have downloaded and extracted the drivers. Select only the sataide driver. It will indicate that it is going to integrate the driver in txtmode for boot time loading. Continue with the process and when asked give a location for saving the iso. You can leave all other options to default. Use your favourite utility to burn the iso & install. Beware - this procedure DID not work with a nunber of modified versions of xp that is the reason for suggesting UNADULTERATED. With this procedure it went on without any hitch. Last edited by pmshah; 09-04-2008 at 10:53 PM.. Reason: added some more info. |
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DriverPacks
Now that pmshah has solved that issue...which is all well and GREAT! We now need to find the right combination of XP DriverPacks to integrate.
I found that the driverpacks themselves are the problem after XP installs. What happens is...XP installs great if you do what pmshah says. When it reboots, however, it BSOD if you have driverpacks. Just so everyone knows my XP of choice...XP DarkLite by CatalogK. piratebay.org usually has it up. Best damn XP I've used, other than Essential XP 2 by BaseballXXXX *somethin*. DarkLite has IE6 but WMP11...best combo. IE 7 sucks...I'm really liking Google Chrome so far. Yes...XP DarkLite installed fine...you just need to install the SATAide driver, like pmshah said using nLite. If I find the perfect combination of DriverPacks...I'll reveal it here. Remember...if Windows ME was Windows More Errors...and XP was Xtra Problems...why the HELL would you use VISTA?! That must be the worst. Haha...cya, XPguru |
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It's DONE!!!
Its Done!!!
After nearly 27 total hours...and thanks to insight from pmshah...I did it!!! DO NOT USE DRIVERPACKS at this time! They don't have the sataide driver integrated and for some reason, it blue screens when you try to use DriverPacks. I tried using the sataide driver through nlite after integrating driverpacks too...XP installs then reboots...then Blue Screens! I made sure I did all the right things. Here is a step-by-step...doing this from Memory...soooo hopefully its accurate. 1) Find your favorite copy of XP...any XP should work fine...even lite ones. MAKE SURE THERE ARE NO DRIVERPACKS INTEGRATED! or it won't work. I use DarkLite by CatalogK. 2) Google this: GeForce 8200 download that's the ChipSet Drivers! The audio driver is the Realtek HD Audio. Download and extract the installer (see step 3...same thing) 3) Use WinRAR or some program that use use to extract an .exe installer. WinRAR works awesome for me by right clicking the .exe. 4) Copy your XP to its own directory. In other words, its own folder. 5) Download the latest nLite and install 6) Use nLite to integrate the drivers from the extracted NVIDIA installer. Integrate all the drivers per folder by using the "Multiple Folder..." option. Then select the folder. Integrate each folder but do NOT include the FLOPPY driver...we don't have on in this tower. Integrate the Realtek HD Audio Driver(s). 7) Customize XP using nLite using its menus...I spent awhile on mine...its soooo worth it not having to do those things everytime! 8) Create the ISO 9) Burn the ISO. I use imgburn....some like Nero and all. But imgburn is free...does the same **** 10) Boot the CD...and set it to install. Watch the unattended magic...then take a deep breath when you see Windows booting up and NO BSOD!!! If anyone has any questions...please e-mail me. I'm up for hire too... Take Care, XPguru PS: It just said I could not post an e-mail because I only have one post...if you can post your's...I'll respond. |
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don't overkill
In my experience you need to integrate only 2 drivers as absolute must. The hdd drivers and the ethernet driver. The latter is optional.
The first one is absolute must & is the only driver required at boot time. Even M$ realises this and gives you an option of hitting F6 to insert the floppy drive. The ethernet driver is required so that one may get on to the net to access manufacturer's site to download all the uodates and / or drivers. All other drivers such as graphics and audio can very comfortably be added after the windows starts. BTW the driver packs only contain Plug n Play drivers. never the boot time txtmode drivers. FYI after using nLite to integrate the sata drivers I DID NOT GET BSOD !!! |
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Help Please
I have purchased the Acer X1200 Destop with Preloaded Vista. I cant seem to get XP Pro 32bit or 64bit to work. I have used nLite to get the XP Pro 32 and 64bit Files off the original install cd and added the drivers in the IDE folder that i downloaded from aramistech.com/reviews/acer-x1200-mini-pc-450/ but still cant get it to work. Someone that has gotten it to work can you give some more detailed steps as the steps listed in this thread arent enough. Which drivers are the ones i need etc. or can you create the ISO and email it to me at ibknowbodi @ yahoo.com. Thnx
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nLite to the rescue
I too had a lot of problems with this system. I then learnt the meaning of the word patience.
I downloaded and installed the nLite program & added the sata drivers to the boot section of the windows installation CD to create a new modified CD. This was of course on a separate PC and used an original - UNMODIFIED - Windows CD as the source. You can certainly add a winnt.sif for unattended installation but that is as far as I would go. No other stripping out or additions to the original. The installation was very smooth. As a matter of fact the XP driver CD was bundled in he original Acer package. Did not have to download anything from the net. Only make sure that you add 32 bit drivers only. Last edited by pmshah; 11-18-2008 at 01:18 PM.. Reason: correction. |
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