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Old 12-04-2008
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Is the MS Malicious Software Removal Tool Useful?

The MS Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool (KB890830) is updated together with Windows and is intended to remove specific malware on its list, but is not a substitute for an AV on guard.

So my question is this:
For someone who has a proper AV tool, such as Kaspersky or AntiVir PE, constantly on guard and also does periodic scanning, does the MS tool offer anything additional? In other words, can it do something that the resident AV can’t do or is it superfluous and unnecessary?
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Old 12-04-2008
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http://www.microsoft.com/security/ma...e/default.mspx
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The Microsoft Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool checks computers running Windows Vista, Windows XP, Windows 2000, and Windows Server 2003 for infections by specific, prevalent malicious software—including Blaster, Sasser, and Mydoom
Not required if you're a normal user with Antivirus, and scan occasionally with Antimalware tool
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offer anything additional?
It checks for "specific software" for Malware software
Lets face it, it's useless if you have Antivirus and scan with a good Anti-Malware program like Malwarebytes
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Old 12-04-2008
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Thanks for a straight and clear answer. I won't bother with that tool any longer, it never found anything anyway.
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Old 12-04-2008
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It will still keep popping up in Updates though. I have countless told Updates Not show this again, but the next time I go there, guess what? It's there waiting for me.
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Old 12-04-2008
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I have the same issue
I have never looked deep enough into this, as per why you just can't disable it for good.
But every time I try to manually update, oh yeah that useless thing again, here it comes!
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Old 12-05-2008
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At least it updates without requiring a reboot
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Old 12-05-2008
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I find your complaining rather strange guys…

As you certainly must know, there is a simple way not to get all the updates automatically but to be able to select only the ones you want:
Control Panel > Automatic Updates: tick (3rd) option: Notify me but don’t automatically download and install them.

I had already selected this option for 2 reasons which have now become 3:
1 I can dodge the WGA notifications. Though my Windows are legit, I don’t want it checking on me and I have even heard it can malfunction and give false nagging.
2 I can watch the updates being actually installed, or possibly failing.
3 I can now avoid the Malicious Software Removal Tool.
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Old 12-05-2008
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heck, I'm more paranoid; all updates are manual/selective installs
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Old 12-05-2008
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I find your complaining rather strange guys…

As you certainly must know, there is a simple way not to get all the updates automatically but to be able to select only the ones you want:
Control Panel > Automatic Updates: tick (3rd) option: Notify me but don’t automatically download and install them.
Yep, I knew about that, and that is what I have selected as well. But every few days there is a new update, and I get the "New updates available!" balloon. And of course I check to make sure there is not some critical system update that just came out, and 95% of the time its just a Defender update. It is a minor annoyance to me.
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Old 12-06-2008
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You are right, it’s a similar problem here.

There is a way of getting rid of: Malware Removal Tool, its updates and notifications about it. However, I stress that what follows should only be read by those with a sense of humour, as I don’t want the board’s Rules to be thrown at me.

Sorry joke removed, many people take these things seriously

Also it's against the board's rules

Now, as I see rotten tomatoes being unpacked, I leave in a hurry before they start being thrown my way.

Last edited by kimsland; 12-06-2008 at 08:59 AM..
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Old 12-07-2008
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I have yet to find a case where Windows malicious software removal tool was used. I can't think of even one time.

I have used my AV and spybot SS in the past though.
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Old 12-07-2008
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I see a contradiction on the part of Microsoft.

MS Itself admits and advises that its tool cannot replace an AV on guard and thus the presence of the latter is still required.

Yet, if a proper AV is present, the MS tool is superfluous because the AV will find even more malware and also be on constant guard.

In other words, the MS tool on its own is insufficient, and with an AV it’s unnecessary.

The logical question follows: What is the purpose of its existence?
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Old 12-07-2008
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When the thousands of Windows users contact MS on the issue of malicious software. MS response is "Refer to the tool. Next".
Certainly a lot easier for them now
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Old 12-07-2008
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Lets face it, it's useless if you have Antivirus and scan with a good Anti-Malware program like Malwarebytes
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I agree and feel the same about Windows live OneCare.

This one is about like Norton at digging in with claws everywhere when it comes to removing it.

Mike
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Thanks for a straight and clear answer. I won't bother with that tool any longer, it never found anything anyway.
you might run into some software or other updates that require this update. its not very big and takes only moments to install, therefore i would recommend installing it.
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Old 12-10-2008
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The fact that is showed up at the same time as Windows Genuine Advantage, and is there as a download every patch tuesday, makes me suspicious that it may also have an alterior motive. As some sort of spy thingy or whatever, I have stopped allowing it just for my own security. Its sad when you feel secure not allowing Microsoft to do stuff to its own OS. But MS has done this to themselves, when WGA was tagging legitimate users as pirates (and still may for all I know) and MS was sneaking patches onto the PC without telling us, they should expect a little hesitance on the side of caution.
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