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Old 01-12-2009
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I should add one more thing...washers. I put little pinkish-brown washers between the screws and the motherboard when I'm attaching the motherboard to the spacers.
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Old 01-12-2009
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have you simply tried plugging the monitor into the other video port on the card?
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Old 01-12-2009
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have you simply tried plugging the monitor into the other video port on the card?
I have Klepto I tried my other LCD monitor and plugged it in using anologue and then I tried the digital connection as well but I got back No signal. But thanks anyway.

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Well, the first thing to do is to see if the motherboard fits. You'll have to remove almost everything, including the wires until there's a bare computer case. The screw holes in the computer case and the screw holes in the motherboard have to match. If they do, you're in business.

To attach the motherboard, you'll need spacers. Okay? Spacers...usually six or eight. Spacers make a space between the motherboard and the computer case. The motherboard rests on top of the spacers. The motherboard screws into the spacers. The spacers screw into the computer case. That's it!

About the processor...the motherboard will typically be made for an AMD or an Intel processor, but not both. If you have an Intel processor, you'll need a board made for Intel.

Now about the BIOS. The motherboard already comes with its own BIOS, so you need not worry there.

Did the motherboard come with a manual?

One good thing about making connections in computers...everything fits only one way!

Let's see if your motherboard fits first.
Ok I've had a closer look, first I'll give you these specs:
**** my CPU Intel Pentium 4, 2.66 ghz/512/533 SL6QA Malay L324B061 - thats what's on the CPU
****my old motherboard ECS 648fx-a (V1.0)
****The new motherboard: Hewlett Packard AS# 305374-001
SP#323091-001, P6B580G9Vp6MEU, and near the processor it says "processor socket" 374 Rev OH S2B (I cannot find too much on this all I can find is that this motherboard seems to be in the D530 Hewlett Packard Computer)

No Manual with the new Motherboard, but it is still in it's plastic wrapper at the moment as I wasn't sure if it was going to be the right one. Anyways

The new motherboard is shorter and wider and the screws are not in the same place, but in my computer case the motherboard seems to be mounted to a side piece (it is up off the case with the spacers as you mentioned I'm guessing, but under this the side piece seems to have a few more holes in it, and I think if those holes are for the motherboard it may fit in the other holes (hope I'm making sense here) I could possibly take a photo but I'm not sure if I can attach a photo on here.

There is one problem I think I see on the motherboard now (if you have a look on the site this site it is the old motherboard) (http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Pro...ID=323&LanID=0) well up above the ram slots there is a 4 pronged plug for a power cable this power cable is connected to my PSU now, not sure what it does, but the new motherboard does not seem to have it anywhere.


Hope you can understand this, thx

I've found the four pronged power connection on the new board so there's no probs with that now, it was the CPU power connector.

Last edited by kimsland; 01-12-2009 at 10:00 AM.. Reason: merged 3 posts
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Old 01-12-2009
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You can do one more thang is set computr back to default. You can do this two ways thire 2 smal pin you can jumper next to the silver round thin battery check your mother board book . Or you can remove the battery for a few minutes. Both will reset your bios to default Have dne this my self works. Waltrue
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Old 01-13-2009
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You can do one more thang is set computr back to default. You can do this two ways thire 2 smal pin you can jumper next to the silver round thin battery check your mother board book . Or you can remove the battery for a few minutes. Both will reset your bios to default Have dne this my self works. Waltrue
thanks Waltrue I've tried that as well, I think my only option is this motherboard but I'm going to need some advice and help to do it I think. Thanks anyway
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Old 01-13-2009
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The ECS motherboard is an ATX (Advanced Technology Extended) form factor. That means that the screw holes are arranged in a certain way and it is very popular among those of us who build our own computers. I don't know about the HP and that's where the rub is. I think HP and Compaq have a different form factor, as does Gateway. Unless HP is following a type of ATX form factor, the screw holes might not match. I'm not sure and I've been trying to find an answer online. If it's different, not all is lost, it may come in handy sometime.
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Old 01-13-2009
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you failed to realize the drivers are different for both cards. Remove the old drivers for the old cards and install the new drivers for the new card respectively.
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Old 01-13-2009
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Good point about the drivers and the cards. Now here's the rub, how do you remove the old drivers if absolutely no image or text can be brought up on the screen? The screen does not display anything after startup. Not even the BIOS will show up. This is where semi-geeks like me get stuck and those of you who have been around the techno block several times can step in.
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Old 01-14-2009
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Good point about the drivers and the cards. Now here's the rub, how do you remove the old drivers if absolutely no image or text can be brought up on the screen? The screen does not display anything after startup. Not even the BIOS will show up. This is where semi-geeks like me get stuck and those of you who have been around the techno block several times can step in.
I haven't attempted the motherboard change yet but I will shortly, and yes I did think about the drivers, I cannot remove the old drivers because of the problem you mentioned Boris and thus the reason why the motherboard change, but I am thinking but I'm not sure about it cause I'm no Techno but when I put the motherboard in because the chipset is different and that I know, I have to reformat anyway and thats ok as thats what I was about to do when all this happened. When I reformat that will wipe the old drivers won't it? and then I can download and install the new ones, well that's what I was hoping maybe someone can help here. I will download the new drivers thats if I can find them....lol on this computer save on a jump drive and install in the other one when working (fingers crossed).

I was told I need the drivers for the Hewlett Packard board D530 so any help on finding the drivers would be appreciated too.

Thanks
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Old 01-15-2009
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After you erase your hard drive, you will be starting with fresh new ones and zeros. When you start up the computer, the monitor should read the BIOS and display the motherboard's logo, or some text should show up on the screen. Your Windows CD should be in the CD tray. The computer will read the CD and the Windows installation should start.

Let's suppose your computer doesn't see your CD? Well, go back into the BIOS and find the Start-up Order. CD should be number one and Hard Drive should be number two. That way, when your computer starts up, it checks the CD tray first to see if something is in it.

Okay, try it again. After Windows installs, you will have to contact Microsoft's site and explain that you have a motherboard replacement, then you can register the copy of Windows.

After that, Windows should have installed the drivers you need. But if you need a couple of drivers, you'll be able to find them.
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Old 01-15-2009
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have you tried to reset the cmos?
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Old 01-15-2009
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Good to reset the CMOS. But usually that is done by pulling the battery, and it does not come out easily, nor is it easy to find. Cut a wire, then restrip and reconnect later, if necessary.
If you have the same name, address, and registration is sent from the same email address as before, you will not have to notify Microsoft. If they call you, or stop the registration, there is merely a brief phone call to their office... in Canada. Microsoft can tell more than you know from the codes that accompany registration.
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Old 01-16-2009
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Good to reset the CMOS. But usually that is done by pulling the battery, and it does not come out easily, nor is it easy to find. Cut a wire, then restrip and reconnect later, if necessary.
If you have the same name, address, and registration is sent from the same email address as before, you will not have to notify Microsoft. If they call you, or stop the registration, there is merely a brief phone call to their office... in Canada. Microsoft can tell more than you know from the codes that accompany registration.
Good question I've been searching for the new CMOS on the new board (or should I say the Jumper points I think they're called) and I cannot find them, there is what looks like a yellow button and it has CMOS on the board near it so |I'm wondering if this is a new thing or Hewlett Packards jumpers anyway I can see the battery thats ok, so you are saying to reset the CMOS of the new board before I start it up?
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Old 01-18-2009
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Reset the CMOS of a new board? I don't think I'd do that. Try out the new board first. There's always time to reset the CMOS if you have to.
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Old 01-20-2009
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Ok here's the update, I bought a new motherboard I installed it in the case, Checked it outside the case first and everything seemed to work, I installed the motherboard and added all the dvd, hard drive etc, it booted up and gave me all the system Info, it semed to recognize everything that was added to it, DVD Rom, DVD RW, Hard Drive, Floppy etc I went into the bios to check the info I went into the Booting sequence and made the DVD Rom (CD Rom) the ist to boot followed by the floppy followed by the hard drive etc. when I went to save the changes and exit for some reason it does nothing. The only thing it reacts to is if I click on Ignore changes and exit, then it goes do you really want to ignore the changes if you press yes then it carries on and reboots, if you say no it goes back to the original set up screen and you cannot get out of it unless you do press ignore changes. Anyway I pressed ignore changes and it went to the HP screen and it asked me to press F1 to boot, I went to the Boot sequence and it said it would boot from the DVD Rom(CD ROM) 1st I put the Windows CD In the DVD Rom and pressed F1 to boot and it goes to a black screen with a flashing cursor in the left hand corner and thats it..............How do I put windows onto this computer, Thx
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Old 01-24-2009
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We haven't forgotten you. I had a rush job to do for the director of our DOT. So, the bottom line is that you put in the Windows CD and a black screen appears with a small dashed line in the upper left corner that blinks until kingdom comes. Also, the BIOS will not allow you to save changes. I've seen that blinking dash line before and it's very frustrating but it looks like your motherboard and monitor are alive. I have to do some research on that unless somebody who has a quick answer can step in. The hard drive and the CD drive are both recognized because they show up in the BIOS, but the CD isn't accessing the hard drive otherwise it would load the operating system.

I just used the search engines briefly...here's a good suggestion from the good doctor, Kimsland:

"Please try another monitor and confirm the Video plug securely screwed in.

Also, are you plugging in the monitor to an addon video card, or to the motherboard video card? (ie is this a AGP or PCI-Express video card-inside your computer)

Another option is to reset CMOS, you will need to refer to your computers manual, to find where the reset jumper on the motherboard is."

I found that post here at TechSpot at http://www.techspot.com/vb/topic99353.html.

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Old 01-25-2009
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We haven't forgotten you. I had a rush job to do for the director of our DOT. So, the bottom line is that you put in the Windows CD and a black screen appears with a small dashed line in the upper left corner that blinks until kingdom comes. Also, the BIOS will not allow you to save changes. I've seen that blinking dash line before and it's very frustrating but it looks like your motherboard and monitor are alive. I have to do some research on that unless somebody who has a quick answer can step in. The hard drive and the CD drive are both recognized because they show up in the BIOS, but the CD isn't accessing the hard drive otherwise it would load the operating system.

I just used the search engines briefly...here's a good suggestion from the good doctor, Kimsland:

"Please try another monitor and confirm the Video plug securely screwed in.

Also, are you plugging in the monitor to an addon video card, or to the motherboard video card? (ie is this a AGP or PCI-Express video card-inside your computer)

Another option is to reset CMOS, you will need to refer to your computers manual, to find where the reset jumper on the motherboard is."

I found that post here at TechSpot at http://www.techspot.com/vb/topic99353.html.
Hi Boris thanks for your reply, I've solved the problem it was a password issue, I took the battery out, pressed the reset button and changed the jumper I left the battery out for 24 hours and then when I put it back in it was all good. I reset a password and off I went everything worked like a charm, I'm now just in the process of finding the correct drivers as it didn't come with a cd, but I have found there are heaps of drivers and I'm uncertain which ones I should download? Also the plate where the mouse connection, keyboard connection etc goes the I/O shield does not fit properly the motherboard is slightly set back and the mouse and keyboard plugs into them but they dont seem to work as the plate(shield) is set a little bit forward so I'm having to take the plate off, will this cause any problems for the connections or the motherboard if I do take the plate (shield) off?

Thanks for all your help too I appreciated it.
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Old 01-28-2009
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One of my computers is without an I/O shield and it hasn't done any harm. I forget why I had to discard the shield.
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The drivers you download will depend on the motherboards chipset. What is the make and model of the board you purchased?
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