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Old 02-13-2009
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Troubleshoot: Windows Won't Recognize USB Hard Drive / Fix Unassigned Drive Letter

Troubleshoot: Windows Won't Recognize Your USB Hard Drive
Part 1, General Information and Troubleshooting

There's a long list of reasons why Windows may stop recognizing your USB drive and/or stop displaying that familiar drive letter in Explorer. Where to begin? Start here with Part 1!Note !!NEVER, EVER!! unplug a USB drive before you first either
  • Stop the USB drive. Use Safely Remove Hardware icon. Do not unplug the device until the device is stopped
  • Shutdown Windows
USB devices are "hot pluggable". This means you can plug them in any time but does not mean you can unplug / power-off anytime! Doing so may corrupt your disk and result in partial or total data loss!!
Initial Troubleshooting
  1. Unplug all other USB devices
    • Plug USB drive directly to computer (no hubs)
    • Undock any docking stations
    • USB mouse/keyboard is probably OK but note tests below that warn otherwise
  2. Connect AC adapters
    • Connect any USB drive AC adapter even if "the adapter is supposed to be optional" or "you never had to connect it before"
    • Plug-in laptops
  3. Follow the Windows trail: Start at Device Manager then on to Explorer
    Check for errors at each step a) to d) below. You must fix any error at each step before continuing
    1. Does Device Manager recognize the DEVICE?
      Device Manager should install 2 drivers per USB drive. Verify both installed and status= Working Properly
      • Open Device Manager, under Disk Drives
        => Find the disk name matching USB drive. This is drive's disk driver
        => Rt click Properties, check status= Working Properly
      • For each USB Mass Storage device
        => Rt click Properties. On General tab, if the Location: string describes your USB drive
        ===> This is its USB storage driver
        ===> On General tab, check status= Working Properly
      • If errors, see Things to Try
    2. Does Disk Management recognize device as DISK?
      SAFELY unplug USB drive and turn it off
      • Start->Run,enter diskmgmt.msc
      • Click View->Bottom->Disk List (Note Disk List display)
      • Plug in USB drive, power on (Watch Disk List. See if new disk appears)
      • If yes, rt click Properties confirm it's USB drive
      • If errors, see Things to Try and Partition Tools
    3. Does Disk Management recognize drive PARTITIONS?
      Verify partitions before verify drive letters. For each USB drive found step b) above
      • Is drive partitioned correctly? Are partitions formatted? Correct size?
      • If errors, see Partition Tools
    4. Disk Management assign drive letters?
      Only check driver letters if prior steps are error free
      • For each partition on USB, does Disk Management display a drive letter? Did you expect one?
      • If expected but not assigned see Part 3, Fix a Missing Drive Letter
More Things to Try
  1. Change Hardware
    1. Try connecting the USB drive to EACH computer USB port
      - fyi: I've seen one case when Windows began reporting "Unknown Device". Part of the solution included: power down the drive, insert USB cable, power the drive back up
    2. Try a different USB cable (cable can be flaky and work on/off)
    3. Try connecting the drive to a different computer
  2. Reinstall USB controllers
    Note! If you use a USB keyboard/mouse you'll temporarily lose the connection
    ==> Get an adapter to keep mouse connected to PS/2 or other port to maintain point/click control(keyboard doesn't matter)
    • Check Device Manager's USB device names
    • For each device name with word Controller, Rt click Uninstall
    • After all controllers uninstalled, reboot
  3. Reinstall all USB devices
    Note! you will temporarily lose your connection (see test above for add'l info)
    - Use USBDeview (see below) to Select All devices then uninstall All Selected devices
    - Look in Device Manager for any remaining USB devices, rt click Uninstall
    - Reboot
  4. chkdsk /r
    Perform disk error checking
  5. Scan for Viruses
    Links
    - 8-step Malware Removal Instructions
    - Virus removal from USB Drives
and Things to Check...
  1. Power Management
    - Do not allow windows to turn off USB power
    - fyi: Keep it configured this way normally to help prevent problems
    • In Device Manager, expand USB category
    • For each Root Hub
      => Uncheck Allow computer to turn off this device to save power
  2. Power Usage
    USB devices draw power from a USB port. However, each USB port limits the total draw at 500mA
    >> if AC adapter isn't supplying enough power the drive may start drawing more

    To check device power draw, find the Hub it's connected to. In Device Manager under USB
    • Rt click each hub Properties->Power tab to view hub's connected devices
    • Find USB drive. Note its power requirement. From what I've seen USB disk drives (w/AC adapter) are about 2 mA, flash drives about 200mA
  3. Use USBDeview to review Windows' USB device data
    Windows creates a USB device descriptor and device data when USB device is first connected
    - When device is removed, device data is not deleted. It's only deleted when the device is uninstalled
    - This data later helps Windows reconnect a device but sometimes has the opposite affect: Device errors!

    To see current USB device data USBDeview
    - Select a device and click File in the menu bar. You can then choose to Enable/Disable, Disconnect, Uninstall, Open registry entry and more for selected device
    - USBDeview's Connected column of Y/N indicates if device connected. This indicator may not be correct if device is a hub
  4. Check Windows Event Log
    Windows Event Log how-to's: Click for XP, Click for Vista
    Check System Log for
    - USB device errors
    - Logical Disk Management service errors
  5. Filter Drivers
    Optional filter drivers ("filters") augment device drivers. It's easy to be unaware of filters applied to your disk drives. (e.g. An Iomega device driver might install a filter that's applied to ALL your drives, not just Iomega!) Stale or buggy filters can cause errors
    Download Filter Load Order Tool. (Click more info) Look for filters NOT from Microsoft or the USB disk vendor
    => Select drive to see filters. Select filter for details
    Download Serviwin to find/try disable filter and try identify the device that created it
    => Click View->Drivers to find the filter and see further detail
    => Try disabling filter: Set StartupType=Disable, reboot
    => Try uninstalling device that created it
Partition Tools
Corrupt partitions may appear unformatted, wrong size, etc. Try Partition Management or better yet Partition Recovery tool to fix. Here's some tools to try for your situation
Management tools that may help recoveryRecovery Tools
  • TestDisk - freeware, see Part 3
  • Partition Table Doctor - Demo version only reports problems. Paid version fixes
Reformatting (when all else fails)
Click for info to reformat your drive

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Troubleshoot: Windows Won't Recognize USB Hard Drive / Fix Unassigned Drive Letter

Troubleshoot: Windows Won't Recognize Your USB Hard Drive
Part2, Fix a Drive Letter that Doesn't Appear

So you've connected your USB drive and wait for that familiar drive letter to appear in Windows Explorer or My Computer. So then you wait.. and wait… and wait some more and then.. nothing happens??!!

Windows drive letter conflicts are often the reason behind a missing drive letter but! a missing driver letter can also be the after affect of a different "upstream" problem (e.g. a USB driver error prevents basic communication in the first place which, in turn, prevents the drive letter from appearing).

Unless you’re quite familiar with troubleshooting USB drive problems it’s advised you start from the beginning! (this post is actually Part 2 of 3)Note !!NEVER, EVER!! unplug a USB drive before you first either
  • Stop the USB drive. Use the Safely Remove Hardware icon. Do not unplug the device until you're told the device is stopped
  • Shutdown Windows
USB devices are “hot pluggable”. This means you can plug them in any time. It does NOT mean you can unplug/power off anytime! Doing so can cause data storage corruption which can mean partial or total loss of your data!!
Troubleshoot: Is Windows hiding the drive letter?
Windows can be configured to simply not display a drive letter. Is the expected drive letter set to be hidden?Troubleshoot: Drive Letter Conflicts
Windows may assign, reserve and store drive letters for a device and/or partitions and volumes found on a device. Devices include: internal drives, external drives (such as USB and Firewire / IEEE 1394 drives) , network mapped drives and locally mapped folders
The problem
Windows doesn't always do a very good job at actually managing all those drive letter assignments and reservations
  • The first time you connect your USB storage device
    • Windows assigns one or more drive letters as needed, one for each partition it finds on the storage device
    • Windows stores this info along with other data about the USB device connection
  • You later disconnect your USB device
    => USB device connection data is not deleted when the device is disconnected
    => It's deleted when the device is uninstalled!
  • Sometime while your device is disconnected Windows goes ahead and assigns some other device the same drive letter!
  • If the drive letter is taken at the time you reconnect your USB device, there's a DRIVE LETTER CONFLICT!
    => Windows doesn't report an error nor does it just assign new drive letters. Rather, it doesn't display the device at all!
A fix: Manually assign new drive letters
  • Start Disk Management (Click Start->Run, enter diskmgmt.msc)
  • In the lower pane, find your USB device. For each unassigned disk partition on the device
    • Right click the unassigned partition, select Change Drive Letters and Paths. Click Add
    • Assign a drive letter from the pulldown menu. Click OK
    The USB device and its partition(s) should now appear in both Windows Explorer and My Computer
Additional Tools: Commands to help fix unassigned drive letter problems
Enter commands below in a command prompt window (tools courtesy of http://www.uwe-sieber.de/drivetools_e.html)
=> For how to open / copy / paste to a command prompt window click here
=> If you’d like more help on installing these commands and see more examples click here
  • DriveCleanup (download: drivecleanup.zip)
    Removes all "nonpresent" (unconnected and/or powered-off) drives from the registry. This includes the device's connection data (including the drive letter which may be cause of the problem) for currently nonpresent devices: "Storage Volumes", "Disks", "CDROMs", "Floppies"
    => Usage
    • drivecleanup -T
      Add parameter -T to only display which devices would be removed (but not actually removing any of them)
    • drivecleanup
      With no parameter, it does its job without further inquiry
    => Notes
    • Admin privilege is required
  • ListDosDevices (download: listdosdevices.zip)
    Drive letters are references to kernel objects thru 'symbolic links'. ListDosDevices shows which 'symbolic link' is behind each drive letter. For historical reasons they are sometimes called 'DOS device names'
    => Usage: listdosdevices
    => The example output shows devices:
    A: Floppy
    C: + D: partitions of a fixed drive
    E: + F: CD or DVD drives
    P: Network drive
    S: Subst drive
    U: USB flash drive (Win2000, XP, 2003, under Vista the 'DOS device name' looks like a partition)
    Y: TrueCrypt drive
    Code:
    Sample: 
    A:  REMOVABLE  \Device\Floppy0
    B:  ----
    C:  FIXED      \Device\HarddiskVolume1
    D:  FIXED      \Device\HarddiskVolume2
    E:  CDROM      \Device\CdRom0
    F:  CDROM      \Device\CdRom1
    G:  ----
    H:  ----
    I:  ----
    J:  ----
    K:  ----
    L:  ----
    M:  ----
    N:  ----
    O:  ----
    P:  REMOTE     \Device\LanmanRedirector\;P:0000000000013548\server01\public
    Q:  ----
    R:  ----
    S:  FIXED      \??\C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Uwe\Anwendungsdaten
    T:  ----
    U:  REMOVABLE  \Device\Harddisk5\DP(1)0-0+19
    V:  ----
    W:  ----
    X:  ----
    Y:  FIXED      \Device\TrueCryptVolumeY
    Z:  ----
  • DeleteDosDevice (download: deletedosdevice.zip)
    If a software application had created a virtual drive and that software crashes later, it leaves the dead drive letter behind. When the software is started again, the software in question may be able to fix this but sometimes it just sees a drive letter in use. In such cases you can remove the dead drive letter using DeleteDosDevice
    => Usage:
    • deletedosdevice x:
      Removes drive volume X:
  • Remount (download: remount.zip)
    Use Remount to quickly change drive letters without having to do it through Disk management
    => Usage
    • remount f: u:
      To change drive F: to U:
    • remount f: u: -s
      If both letters are already in use and need to be swapped, add parameter -s
    • remount c: x: -f
      If remounting the Windows system drive or mounting a local drive to a letter used by a network drive, use parameter -f (force)
    => Notes:
    • Instead of drive letters you can use NTFS mount points too
    • Admin privilege is required

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Troubleshoot: Windows Stops Recognizing Your USB Hard Drive
Part 3, How to boot from a G-Parted-Live-CD to try fix USB drive problems

There's a long list of reasons why Windows may stop recognizing your USB drive and/or stops displaying that familiar drive letter in Explorer. It sometimes becomes a challenge to find the problem cause

In such cases, it can help to isolate the problem: Try to rule out Windows and your other computer software
  • Create a known and read-only software environment on a boot CD
  • Boot from CD. Test your drive to see how it behaves when your computer is running an alternate software envirnoment
This is Part 3 of a three part guide to help troubleshoot USB drive problems
  1. Start with Initial Troubleshooting in Part1, General Information and Troubleshooting
  2. If a drive letter problem is indicated, refer to Part 2, Fix a Drive Letter that Doesn't Appear
  3. For extended troubleshooting help, see Part 3, USB Drives: How to boot from a G-Parted-Live-CD to test / try fix USB drive problems
This part of the Guide
  • Provides two freeware tools G-parted and TestDisk that might help you fix/recover partition related errors that may be causing your problem
  • Instructions to create a Gparted-Live boot CD which will provide a bootable software environment along with test tools on the CD
  • Guidance to use the CD based software for testing and, if needed, partition management / repair
The Gparted-Live-CD includes an assortment of freeware / public source code based tools. Software tools included with the Gparte-Live-CD
  • Gparted. Offers drive detection, partition management and data edit and recovery
  • TestDisk. Yet another detect, manage and recovery tool
Gparted tool. Gparted is the Gnome Partition Editor. (If you like interesting acronyms: Gnome is part of GNU). Use Gparted to help detect, manage and recover your disk partitions and data. More info at:TestDisk tool. TestDisk is a detect / some partition management / more-so-a recovery tool on the Gparted-Live CD. Since it’s freeware, you may want to simply try it and decide things yourself. More info at:
Creating/booting a Gparted-Live CD
To create CD
  • Click here for Gparted-Live-CD download page
  • The page lists current and past releases
  • Find latest .iso file release at top of list. Click and Save to disk. An ISO (pronounced EYE–so) file is an image of an optical disk's playable surface
  • Burn iso file to CD. Pretty much all CD burn software supports iso. Check your documentation (look for iso in the index or simply search for iso in the doc)
To boot from CD
  • Power off your computer. Disconnect all USB devices
  • Insert CD. Power on
    • BIOS boots from first device found containing bootable media. BIOS settings define the search order. Order should put CD before internal hard drive.
    • Some systems also provide a Boot Menu. When the boot device is manually selected via Boot Menu, the device search by BIOS is skipped
      ==> Check your system documentation for available methods
    • The CD boots into Linux (another Operating System). When prompted for startup values, hit Enter for defaults. Defaults work for most systems but you may need to select a non-default resolution if display problems occur with default
Use Gparted to test the USB hard drive
You need first understand the device naming conventions used
Device Naming Conventions
Linux device names are created as follows
  • Bus Type – Defines the start of the device name
    • IDE devices start /dev/hd
    • SCSI / USB devices start /dev/sd
  • Drives - A letter after Start of device name differentiates drives
    • Example: These names represent two different IDE drives (/dev/hda vs. /dev/hdb)
  • Partitions – A digit occurs after a drive letter to differentiate partitions
    • (/dev/hdb1 and /dev/hdb2 are different partitions on the same drive
      /dev/hdc1 is a different partititon on a different drive)
How to Perform a Quick USB detect test
A test result is referred to as USB detect result n where n is a digit representing the specific type of result. An explanation of each USB detect result is provided later below
  • Disconnect all USB
  • Boot from CD. Gparted’s first screen includes info about the partitions found on computer’s boot drive
  • Click Gparted->Devices. Identify other drives found at start up
  • Connect USB drive. Wait 30-60 seconds
  • Click Gparted->Refresh->Devices then Gparted->Devices
  • Does USB drive appear now? If yes, verify drive info is what you expect
    >> (eg. disk size, number and types of partitions) <<
    Use Gparted to check if your USB hard drive is detected
  • If USB drive is now detected and drive info is correct see Detect Result #1 otherwise continue
How to Perform a System-level USB detect test
  • Disconnect all USB. Reboot from CD. As above, verify which drives detected on boot
  • Open Linux window: double click window icon (top of Gparted window) type dmesg for system log
  • Connect USB drive
  • Open new Linux window, get system log. Compare new/old logs to find USB entries after connect. Verify new device name of USB device
  • Click Gparted->Refresh Devices then Gparted->Devices. Is USB device among the devices?
    => If USB drive is listed in Devices see Detect Result #1
    => If USB drive not listed in Devices and USB drive not found in system log see Detect Result #2
    => If USB drive not listed in Devices but USB drive does appear in system log see Detect Result #3
Checking USB Detect Test Results
Different USB Detect results below along with indication what each means as likely problem source
=> USB Drive hardware can be: the internal disk, the case enclosure, AC power adapter, USB cable
=> Computer hardware can be: BIOS, internal boards, USB ports, etc.
  1. Drive detected by Gparted and recognized correctly
    Probably software issue, Windows or other software running (including a virus!)
    > Once Gparted sees the device name
    => you can use Gparted and TestDisk to manage partitions / attempt data repair or recovery
    => Still check system log for USB drive error messages as they may help identify problems if seeing the drive but incorrect partition info <

  2. Drive not found in system log or detected by Gparted
    Your drive isn’t even sensed by hardware. Could be USB Drive or Computer Hardware
  3. Drive found in system log but not seen by Gparted
    Sensed by hardware so computer tries reading. Log should reveal device errors (I/O, corruption, etc.) which are severe so Linux (and probably Windows) will not present the new device to other software to see/use. Problem is likely the USB drive or hardware or in system-level software (eg. drivers, driver filters, services)
Using Testdisk
  • Connect USB drive
  • Open Linux window. Enter TestDisk
  • Follow tell prompts till choice of drives listed (along with drive’s info)
  • If USB drive not listed
    • Exit TestDisk
    • Unplug the drive. After a short wait reconnect the drive
    • Start TestDisk again

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power limitations

Also see Usb Power Limitations here
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How to Reinstall Your USB Controllers and Motherboard Chipset Drivers

How to Reinstall Your USB Controllers and Motherboard Chipset Drivers

This post describes how to reinstall
  • Windows' USB device controllers, and
  • Your motherboard's chipset drivers
If you're having problems with USB drives, you can also see Troubleshooting Guide Windows Won't Recognize Your USB Hard Drive

Part 1: Uninstall your USB storage devices
Note: You must logon to an account with admin privileges before you proceed
You can skip this step if your USB problem doesn't involve your USB storage devices
  1. Download DriveCleanup.zip. Unzip and save the files in directory C:\Windows\System32
  2. Shutdown your computer. Wait until it's powered off
  3. Disconnect your USB storage devices. (USB storage devices include: USB hubs, USB hard drives and flash drives, flash memory cards and USB external CDs.) A USB Mouse, keyboard or network adapters can remain connected
  4. Restart your system
  5. Open a command prompt window (If Vista, you need an elevated command prompt window). Enter: drivecleanup
    >> For more detail and an example you can also see this post about the drivecleanup tool

Part 2: Reinstall the USB Controllers and/or Motherboard Chipset Drivers

Note: You must be logon to an account with admin privileges before you proceed
Uninstalling USB controllers is much simpler and easier if you don’t have any USB devices connected at the time. (Otherwise, you'll be uninstalling a USB device while it is still connected and using the very controllers you want to uninstall)
To avoid use of a USB Keyboard
  • Make sure your computer can shutdown and reboot to your Windows desktop without requiring any keyboard input (e.g. set Windows to Autologon so it won’t prompt for a user id and password to complete the System restart)
To avoid use of a USB Mouse
  • Use a non-USB mouse port. Check if you have a PS/2 (or other non-USB) port you can use. Then, just buy a port adapter for your USB mouse, OR
  • If you have a 2nd computer, you can use it for remote logon (so mouse/keyboard not needed on remote logon computer)

    Here’s some free remote logon tools you can use. If the computer you're trying to fix runs
To Reinstall the Controllers and/or Motherboard Chipset Drivers
  1. Shutdown your computer. Unplug / disconnect all your USB devices. If you can't find a non-USB connection for your mouse
    • Continue with ONLY your USB mouse connected
    • Be patient. Windows might take more time when uninstalling a USB controller that still has a device attached to it
    • Watch for any message pop-ups that might indicate the uninstall process wasn't fully successful
  2. If your computer is attached to a port replicator or docking station unattach it
  3. Startup your computer. Open Device Manager. Look for the USB category and click the + plus sign to expand the category
  4. The only USB devices you should see if you've removed all USB devices are Controllers and Root Hubs
    Notes
    > Some additional devices might also appear if you still have a USB Mouse connected
    > Your USB 2.0 controller will appear in Device Manager as the "Enhanced Controller"

    (click thumbnail for full size image)
  5. You want to use Device Manager to rt click Uninstall each USB Controller you see
  6. The controller uninstall order makes no difference if no USB devices are connected (e.g. a mouse/keyboard)
  7. If your USB mouse is still connected, you'll need to uninstall the controller connected to the mouse last
  8. If you also want to reinstall your Motherboard Chipset Drivers, do it now. Install the chipset drivers WHILE your USB controllers are uninstalled (thanks to guinnyss for noting the order of: 1st uninstalling USB controllers and only then re-installing the chipset drivers. The order made the difference between working vs. not working in their case!)
  9. Reboot your computer. Windows will reinstall the USB controllers
  10. You can reconnect your USB devices once windows is done reinstalling the USB controllers

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How to Check Hardware / Connection Issues with your USB Device

How to Check Hardware / Connection Issues with your USB Device

Also see, Troubleshooting Guide Windows Won't Recognize Your USB Hard Drive if you’re having problems with USB drives
Special notes:
  1. Network adapters
    Some internal network adapters connect to the USB bus
    • To check if you have a USB internally connected adapter, open Device Manager
      >> Check each device under Network Adapters. Rt click Properties then Details tab
      >> If the Device Instance Id starts USB\ it’s connected to the USB bus
    • If you have an internal USB connected network adapter, disable it, whenever possible, during testing
  2. AC Adapters
    If your USB device has an AC adapter, plug it in!
    >> Don’t believe its power supply is OK simply because you see its power light turn on when connected!
  3. Other USB devices
    If a USB device or hub isn’t working properly it can cause other USB devices to also fail
    • Make sure another device isn’t the real problem source. Unplug the other USB devices when troubleshooting
    • If you use a USB mouse and keyboard, it should be OK to leave them plugged in. But if you have the option to use a non-USB mouse and keyboard while testing, IMHO "you may as well use ‘em"

Before you begin testing
>> Power down your computer then disconnect all your USB devices such as hubs, web cams, flash drives, etc. (USB mouse and keyboard should be OK)
>> Disconnect port replicators and docking stations
>> Connect USB and/or laptop AC adapters
  • Try to rule out problems with the device itself
    Plug your device into a different computer. See if the problem moves with the device or remains local to your computer hardware and configuration
  • Try different USB cables
    The cable itself may fail. Also note: older USB v1.1 cables have less shielding then newer USB 2.0 cables
    => Try different cables
    => Try the shortest cables you have (Poor shielding and long cables can= Noise)
  • Try the other USB ports on your computer
    One of the USB ports on your computer may have failed
    => Try plugging your device directly into each of the other USB ports on your computer
    => Plug directly to your computer’s USB ports. Don’t use hubs, port replicators, docking stations, etc
  • Check for Windows/USB failures
    => See Why doesn't my computer detect my new USB device when I'm running Windows XP or Windows Server 2003?
  • Check for USB Power Management “Sleep” Issues
    Windows’ Power Management default options typically allow Windows to turn off your USB devices to save energy. But Windows and USB device “sleep” mode have long been problematic. (And there’s also a long history of hotfixes to prove it!)

    I recommend disabling USB sleep mode permanently. It may help fix your current issues as well as prevent new ones
    >> One caveat for laptop users:Laptops running on battery power may drain a bit more quickly when USB devices aren’t allowed to “sleep” <<
    Laptop users may choose to enable/disable this feature, as needed, while running on battery power
    • Open Device Manager. Select Universal Serial Bus controllers
    • Right-click each USB Root Hub
    • Click Properties then click the Power Management tab
    • Clear the check box next to Allow the computer to turn off this device to save power box (This prevents USB sleep mode for that Root Hub)
    • Click OK to close the USB Root Hub Properties window
  • Check for USB Hub and Device Power Issues
    USB hubs help provide power to your USB attached devices
    => See How to Check USB Device and USB Hub Power Issues and Limitations

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How to Check USB Device and USB Hub Power Issues and Limitations

How to Check USB Device and USB Hub Power Issues and Limitations

If you’re having USB problems, you can also refer to
=> How to Check Hardware / Connection Issues with your USB Device
=> Troubleshoot: Windows Won't Recognize Your USB Hard Drive

USB Overview
Host Controllers
The host is a PC or other computer that contains both a host controller and root hub. The host controller and root hub work together to allow Windows to communicate with devices on the computer's USB data bus. The host controller
=> Formats data for transmitting on the USB bus
=> Translates received data to a format that Windows can understand
=> Performs other functions related to managing communications on the USB bus

Hubs
Hubs have several important functions

A root hub is "inside" of your computer. Each root hub provides for one or more of the USB ports provided on your computer itself. A root hub, in combination with the host controller
=> Detects when you attach or remove a USB hardware device (and is what reports the hardware detection/change to Windows)
=> Carries out requests from the host controller
=> Passes data between devices on the USB data bus and the host controller.
USB Hubs and Devices Overview
USB devices
=> May draw some or all of their power from a USB port
=> All devices attached to the same USB port must share the power available from the port

USB Hubs
=> One normally thinks of a USB hub as being external to the computer but computers also have internal hubs (one per controller)
=> The internal hubs appear in Device Manager listed as "Root" hubs
=> The external hubs appear in Device Manager listed as "Generic hubs". They are user configurable

Root vs. Generic Hubs
USB Hubs appear in Device Manager when they’re connected
=> Internal hubs are normally listed as Root Hubs
=> External hubs are normally listed as Generic Hubs

Hubs expand the number of USB ports available on a computer and are responsible for providing and managing the power to USB ports[/I]
Generic Hub may also appear in Device Manager when you add a device that comes with integrated USB ports and therefore also acts as a hub (e.g. some keyboards and monitors come with integrated USB ports)
Self-Powered vs Bus-Powered Hubs
[I]Hubs can be either bus-powered, drawing power directly from the USB bus, or self-powered, drawing power from an external AC adapter
  • Bus-powered hubs can provide up to 100 milliamperes (mA) of power per port. They can power a maximum of four ports
  • Self-powered hubs, on the other hand, typically provide up to 500 mA of power per port. They can provide power for more than four ports
USB Voltage Requirements
Voltage supplied by a host or a powered hub ports must be between 4.75 V and 5.25 V
=> If you're having USB issues and you've ever changed your USB jumpers, double check them!
=> If you've never touched the USB jumpers, this issue probably doesn't apply to you
=> A USB tech reference for geeks
About AC Adapters...
Plug in any AC adapters
=> If your USB hub or device has an AC adapter, plug it in!
=> Don’t believe its power supply is OK simply because you see its power light turn on when connected!
How to view USB Hub and Device Power Usage
Check each USB hub to see if it's bus- or self- powered and check the power usage required by each attached device
=> Open Device Manager
=> Rt click each Root and Generic Hub, select Properties then click the Power tab
=> See also, One or more USB devices may not work after you start your Windows XP-based computer
Example
For this example, I set-up the following hardware
  • I am working on laptop
  • The laptop is connected to a docking station which has 3 USB ports. They connect to
    • An external USB hard drive
    • An external USB CD/DVD drive
    • An external USB hub (with its own AC adapter). The hub connects to
      • A USB printer
      • A USB SanDisk U3 Flash Drive
      • A USB antennae for wireless mouse and keyboard
      • A USB Audio device

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Thank you for the detailed responce .
I ran the program at the end of your responce.
It seemed to find and release 29 USB dependencies if that's the right phrase.
Then i restarted the PC and just as it said, it did take longer to load up.
i did as you said and got a report. This is the one from before i ran the program , bare in mind at the time of both all USB devices were unplugged.

Report 1 before the USB removal program
Universal Serial Bus (USB) Controller PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3038&SUBSYS_E0281631&REV_A0\3&2411E6FE&0&80 The drivers for this device are not installed.
Universal Serial Bus (USB) Controller PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3038&SUBSYS_E0281631&REV_A0\3&2411E6FE&0&81 This device is not configured correctly.
Universal Serial Bus (USB) Controller PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3038&SUBSYS_E0281631&REV_A0\3&2411E6FE&0&82 This device is not configured correctly.
Universal Serial Bus (USB) Controller PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3038&SUBSYS_E0281631&REV_A0\3&2411E6FE&0&83 This device is not configured correctly.
Universal Serial Bus (USB) Controller PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3104&SUBSYS_E0281631&REV_86\3&2411E6FE&0&84 This device is not configured correctly.

Report 2 After the PC reset and loading problems continued

Universal Serial Bus (USB) Controller PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3038&SUBSYS_E0281631&REV_A0\3&2411E6FE&0&80 The drivers for this device are not installed.
Universal Serial Bus (USB) Controller PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3038&SUBSYS_E0281631&REV_A0\3&2411E6FE&0&81 The drivers for this device are not installed.
Universal Serial Bus (USB) Controller PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3038&SUBSYS_E0281631&REV_A0\3&2411E6FE&0&82 The drivers for this device are not installed.
Universal Serial Bus (USB) Controller PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3038&SUBSYS_E0281631&REV_A0\3&2411E6FE&0&83 This device is not configured correctly.
Universal Serial Bus (USB) Controller PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3104&SUBSYS_E0281631&REV_86\3&2411E6FE&0&84 This device is not configured correctly.

Report 3, Printout from device manager

******************** SYSTEM DEVICE CLASS ********************
*DISABLED DEVICE* Class: Other devices Device: Universal Serial Bus (USB) Controller No resources used. Device Drivers:
*DISABLED DEVICE* Class: Other devices Device: Universal Serial Bus (USB) Controller No resources used. Device Drivers:
*DISABLED DEVICE* Class: Other devices Device: Universal Serial Bus (USB) Controller No resources used. Device Drivers:
*DISABLED DEVICE* Class: Other devices Device: Universal Serial Bus (USB) Controller No resources used. Device Drivers:
*DISABLED DEVICE* Class: Other devices Device: Universal Serial Bus (USB) Controller No resources used. Device Drivers:
Class: Other devices Device: Unknown device No resources used. Device Drivers:


Hope this info helps.

Thanks

Carl
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My first knee-jerk reaction is you need to reinstall your motherboard chipset drivers as the errors are occuring on your PCI\ based controller devices and NOT devices beginning as USB\

You should download your chipset drivers, uninstall USB stuff, THEN install then chipset drivers followed by reinstalling usb See this post

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AND: device manager says they're DISABLED????? rt click each and ENABLE each one first
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Once again Thank you.

Before i read how to reinstall my Motherboad drivers, this is what it it says in the details on the Device manager.

Device instance Id
PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3038&SUBSYS_E0281631&REV_A0\3&2411E6FE&0&80

And also every device is enabled despite the report.

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OK.

Could be DevMgr simply lists them as disabled because none of their drivers exist (as shown in your other reports)

These PCI\ devices are typically included in your motherboard chipset drivers (you should be able to find looking at your system vendor website Click for the driver page listed by System Vendor Find your System Vendor, click for their driver support site. Enter your model number, then download your drivers as needed

Hope that chipset install helps!
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Oh and also 4 of my USB ports are built into the Motherboard and the fron two which lead to an 8 pined section on my motherboard are disconnected anyway.

When it tells me to disconnect the ports how do i do that?

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Packard bell isn't on the list of manufacturers
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Try here for Packard Bell support

You need to make sure all external usb devices are disconnected first. Which means
=> No external hubs
=> No externals devices connected to your USB ports

And disconnect any port replicators / docking stations (if you use one). Otherwise, you're good-to-go (i.e. no need to try disconnecting any of your ports from the stuff internal/INSIDE of your computer
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Ok i have done everything now
i have downloaded the Imedia bios which evdently is called a Cuba motherboard
and i have downloaded another set of drivers for the machine and still it cant find them.
But before that i unplugged all but the Monitor and used the ps2 keyboard and mouse. and moved the jumper and help power off for 15 secs as orderd. Obviously nothing will retreive it back.
If i was to re-install windows XP home would there be anyt guarentee it will work or is that pot luck?

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i have downloaded the Imedia bios which evdently is called a Cuba motherboard
Exactly what is your computer's make/model so we might have a look at its specs and the downloads from the vendor's site available as well?
Quote:
moved the jumper and help power off for 15 secs as orderd.
What jumper are you talking about? Have you ever changed (or this time changed) the jumper setting which controls USB power???

/* EDIT */
Still answer question about the jumper... but as for providing more info... better yet, try this!
Install System Information Viewer
(Note in each of its display windows there's a always Copy button at the bottom of the window)
Open SIV. Click to copy SIV's opening window to your next post
Then click the button to open each of System, Machine and USB Bus windows and copy/paste each of them as well

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Thanks I's a Packard bell Imedia 1569
Ihope the images come through ok

I suspect there awful, not sure why all my pics turn out this way.

If you need me to re send them i wil
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oh.

Actually, I meant you just needed to (for each window)
=> Click the Copy button at the bottom of the Window
=> Then you can simply Paste the text into a post (or better yet just paste/append in to a single .txt (e.g. Notepad) file. Then attach the file to your next post)
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I got some basic info from the pics (but if more info should be needed / you want to show from there please use the SIV copy button so you can simply copy/paste each window as text)
  • I'll rely on you to first carefully confirm that this is the right link for your computer's download support page
  • BIOS
    • I see from the SIV (still somewhat readable ) images you are running with a BIOS dated 08/07/06? Tho i can't make out the version number
    • I see from the download/support the latest BIOS update for the Cuba board is 03/14/07?
    • But let's not mess with the BIOS just yet
  • Chipset drivers
    • It shows latest chipset drivers as VIA Hyperion Chipset Drivers 02/14/07. Are these what you installed before?
  • And what jumper were you refering to in your prior post?
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