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Old 09-30-2009
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HP peddling faulty Core i7 desktops?

Update (10/1): We received a brief response from HP indicating they are aware of the issues and that they are looking into the problem -- that's it. Best of luck to all affected customers, hopefully HP will step up and solve this appropriately.

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Old 09-30-2009
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Glad I don't own anything HP, also glad I build my own systems. Feel bad for the people stuck in that situation, I can see this leading to lawsuit possibly which would be a good way to get HP to open their eyes.
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Old 09-30-2009
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HP's Pavillion Elite desktop microATX tower comes with a whopping 460W power supply. For those of you who don't know anything 460W isn't %@&$ when it comes to powering a Core i7 computer. Weak sauce, no wonder their computers are blue-screening.

It's not the motherboard's fault, it's the weak PSU. Also, for those of you who even know what a PSU *is* ... don't forget that capacitors lose their efficiency over time! 1 year old power supply running 24/7 can lose up to 35% of it's capacity.

HP &%$#-ed up ... no ASUS
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Old 09-30-2009
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Good Luck to all. I have a top of the line home office HP all-in-one printer and I've had to deal with their support on 4 separate issues dating back over 2 years. HP has given me workarounds and excuses. I've yet to see an update to the drivers or software for my printer. I regret buying the thing.

I've seen enough complaints and quirks about HP to cause me to think of them as too risky to spend money on.
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Old 10-01-2009
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Sounds like a repeat of the attitude they took with the nvidia /laptop and vid card problems of not long ago. I certainly hope they treat customers better this time around. I wish there were a way to really have it bit them in the sales pocket if it doesn't but everything is so price driven that unless a product / company totally fails a lot, and I do mean a lot of their customers they are really immune to the negative effects of people reporting their negative experiences with a product.
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Old 10-01-2009
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This issue with all models of HP Core i7 systems is not caused by the power supply, some customers have already swapped out their 460W PSU for an 850W and it made no difference. The common factor in all models is the Pegatron IPMTB-TK motherboard.
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Old 10-01-2009
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460W inadequate for Core i7? Depends on what's in the rest of the system. Plenty of i7 systems running fine on 350W PSU's (just ask Dell). Check your facts. Lack of wattage is not the problem here, especially the way that HP's non-overclocking systems are configured.
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Old 10-01-2009
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HP computers are all a bunch of crap. No surprise here.
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Old 10-02-2009
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I have owned two of the 9180 series HP i750 pcs and I returned them both for a refund. I was completely disappointed with the after-sale 'support' or more appropriately 3rd-world, 4th-class support. Case managers were clueless and non-sympathetic. While many users are suggesting possible class action, the only winners in this mess will be people who are fortunate enough to dodge the HP bullet and obtain equipment elsewhere.

It's hard to imagine a company the size and scope of HP ignoring a problem this serious. They won't even acknowledge it IS a problem publicly - why do they ignore the thousand plus posts on their own HP FORUM? Why not post a message from the president or some other high-ranking official offering 100% refunds or exchange to those folks who got burned by this?

It's a case of corporate denial. They get farther and make more revenue if they never 'blink'. It will take media pressure and/or legal methods most probably to get them off the dime on this one.
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Old 10-02-2009
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My dad got a bad AMD quad core chip in a HP PC he purchased a while ago. After getting no good response from HP, he gave me the computer and bought an Apple PC instead. I know it was a bad CPU, because when I replaced it with an upgraded CPU, everything was fine.
Given their track record, I'm staying away from HP. they just won't stand behind their products.
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Old 10-02-2009
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The highest TDP of any of the i7s is 130W Max (the ones HP uses are prob 95W), so as long as you aren't putting in multiple high end video cards (or maybe just 1 high end with several other things) a good quality 460W PSU should be ok. Whether HP uses good quality ones or not I don't know..
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Old 10-02-2009
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If I am not mistaking HP had issues with the Pegatron mobos in some of their latest high-end laptops as well.
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Old 10-02-2009
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Users who have replaced the power supply with high quality RAM & PSU report that it does not correct the problem. Others have tried swapping video cards. Others have tried every available driver, and alternate Operating Systems. The bottom line, the Core i7 HP line still freezes up or BSOD after a cold start.
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Old 10-05-2009
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Check out this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5HfRT6nzUs
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Old 10-09-2009
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You bet we are all complaining, the worst part is the cold shoulder. Almost everyone in there is an HP fan and why they would take such an approach is shocking. Please folks keep hammering its the only way when they won't listen.
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Old 10-12-2009
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HP Pavilion Elite e9150t PC
• Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium with Service Pack 1 (64-bit)
• Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-950 processor (3.00GHz, 1MB L2 + 8MB shared L3 cache with QPI Technology)
• 12GB DDR3-1066MHz SDRAM [6 DIMMs]
• 640GB RAID 0 (2 x 320GB SATA HDDs) - performance
• 1GB ATI Radeon HD 4650 [DVI, HDMI, VGA]
• LightScribe 16X max. DVD+/-R/RW SuperMulti drive
• Wireless-N LAN card
• 15-in-1 memory card reader, 1 USB, 1394, audio
• No TV Tuner w/remote control
• Integrated 7.1 channel sound with front audio ports
• No speakers
• HP multimedia keyboard and HP optical mouse
• Microsoft(R) Works 9.0
• FREE UPGRADE! Norton Internet Security(TM) 2009 - 3 year from 2 year


My computer has crashed 20 times in 1 week you bet this is going back in a box to hp.

I bought it for music production and recording and it cant even burn a cd without crashing!

internet explorer locks up and freezes

Adobe audition crashes and BSOD.

System recovery twice with no problems
Hardware diagnostic passes with flying colors

BUT the computer cannot do everyday tasks without catastrophic crashing around every turn.

i never thought i'd say it but DUDE i'm gettin a dell!
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Old 10-15-2009
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its good to build your own pc if one has the knowledge.
going for these branded stuffs and facing problems is annoying.in the above case u solve ur problems yourself because u know everything about ur rig.
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Old 11-07-2009
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I bought this Pegatron IPMBT-TK mother board. It is the same one in all tha bad HP units... So I am told. I have never had a problem with it. But then I always build my own machines. The board is in the high end HP's but maybe they have the wrong stuff in them. And even if the puchasers send them back they will never know if HP's techs ever even looked at the machines before the send them back to them. Bad for HP and bad for those who buy there machines ready made. With all the complaints I got the board at a steal of a price and this machine is a unstoppable beast. No bios updates and no returns... right out of the bubble wrap she hit the ground running. I've never seen the BSOD on this machine ever. Though it handles everything and smiles back at me with a hungry grin I'm going to over clock it just for kicks. Good luck to you guys with the troubles... I sorry to hear about your mess with HP.
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Old 11-08-2009
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I have one of these faulty models (e9150t) and it freezes or locks up on me periodically. My only solution has been to unplug the machine and start anew, losing whatever I was working on, up to the point of my last save. I wasn't expecting this from a new machine. Are there any fixes?
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Old 11-09-2009
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I own the m9600t and have these same problems. It got so bad after months of repeatedly having to rebuild that the motherboard completely died. Finally after 2 days on the phone HP agrees there is a problem (yes, seriously it took that long).

HP replaced it. Same problems with the new one.

It's not the power supply. The very first thing I did when I got the PC new was to put in a high quality power supply.

It's not the operating system. I put in a brand new hard drive and installed windows 7 clean install about 5 days ago. It worked great until today - and then the same exact freezing - can't recognize any keyboard mouse - can't shutdown - can't boot corruption problem happened last night.

I'm so fed up I'm thinking of just buying a replacement and tossing my $1000 out the window in this piece of junk. I've definitely wasted more than $1000 of my time.
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