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  #21  
Old 06-09-2005
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Cobrakaun:

i've tried your fix, and it seems to work.

The infinite loop usually occured when i opened ATI MMC TV or wanted to configure it while the tv was running. i've never had the loop during gaming.

First let me tell you i've got an image/backup of a XP installation without ANY videocard drivers whatsoever installed. That way i can always fallback to a fully configured installation of XP without having to install windows and all the other software. This also makes sure the only things that changes are the drivers etc i install. I've tried all possible combinations, and concluded that (on my pc) Catalyst 5.3 + MMC 8.03 is the most stable combi.

After i changed the cpu-to-agp controller to the std pci-to-pci coltroller, i installed Catalyst 5.3 and ATI MMC 8.03 (This is a combination of which i'm sure it works). I rebooted everytime after i installed a part of the software of changed something major.

everything worked fine. So far i've followed your directions.

The next thing i did was change the std pci-to-pci controller back to CPU-to-AGP controller.

Until now, all is working flawlessly. I haven't tried gaming yet, but i don't expect any major problems. If they do occur, i'll let you guys know.

Here are some specs of my pc:

P4 3.0GHz, ASUS P4P800-E deluxe
1GB DDR3200
ATI AIW 9800SE 128MB
CATALYST 5.3, ATI MMC 9.03

Last edited by Martin-S; 06-10-2005 at 03:36 AM.. Reason: fixed a typo
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  #22  
Old 06-14-2005
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OK... I came to the same solution BUT, there are things to be very aware of when you do this!!

Exactly what youre doing is removing the AGP motherboard drivers, and switching to a standard generic driver. THIS WILL DISABLE AGP ACCELERATION! your AGP video card can not run at AGP speeds due to the missing driver, and thus, you will experience reduced performance. Its a good fix, and it works like a charm to those of us with the VIA ATI problem, but its only a band-aid. what we should all be doing is harassing VIA into fixing the problem. Until they do, I can garuntee I wont even consider buying a VIA based board again. So stop reading my ranting, and go send them a nasty email
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  #23  
Old 06-16-2005
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I have a PCI card but had the same problem ever since I got this computer, and nothing fixed it. I tried your fix. I didn't have the system device "CPU to AGP Controller" but I did find "PCI bridge" available as a driver under the system device "LPC controller", so I set it to that.
That didn't help, but there was also a choice of two "82801FB" controllers, one by Intel, which it had previously been set to, and one by Microsoft. I set it to the Microsoft one and I haven't seen a crash or infinite loop since. I've just played four hours straight of Battlefield2 demo and it worked perfectly. Before, it was crashing every 10 mins in that game.

So I think you're definitely on the right track, even for PCI cards. I never would have thought to try that if I hadn't seen your post. Thanks man.
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  #24  
Old 06-21-2005
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Well, a minute and a hard reset ago, he did it again. Of course, my solution was to good to be true. I think i'll leave it this way. The performance of my system suffered to much from this fix.

One thing, i'd like to note: i've NEVER had it during gaming. Only when i'm watching TV via my AIW and internetting.
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  #25  
Old 07-13-2005
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Where has my video gone

Hi, is it possible that by fixing the infinite loop error that myself and all of the above have been experiencing, could have made a mess of my video drivers?

I have since not been able to watch avi or mpeg files since. The sound plays however there are no pictures? How do you go about reversing this fix?
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  #26  
Old 07-13-2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cobrakaun
A FIX THAT WORKED FOR ME AND A BUNCH OF OTHER PEOPLE!! READ ON!

Here we go folks, I've been having this problem for almost a year now with my computer (infinite loop and ati2dvag.dll reboot errors), and tried almost everything my mind could possible think of doing. I've tried every solution on this board, and every other board I could find relating to this file and to the infinite loop, with absolutely no success. I tried every driver package available, bios updates, agp chipset updates, every combination of every setting. I've tried reducing power usage in my computer, I've placed more power in my computer... I've added more fans and created an optimal cooling system in my computer. I made sure there were absolutely no IRQ conflicts, and nothing was using the same IRQ as my video card. I've tried with one stick of ram, with one in 1 and 3. I've tried disabling onboard sound, and putting in a soundblaster card. Nothing... I mean nothing, worked at all.

Until now! I found a solution, that has worked for me and a bunch of other people who have tested it for me.
So give it a try, perhaps it will work for you too. My computer has been working 100% since I made this change. There is a chance it could reduce the effeciency of your texture drawing with your video card... but I've tested it with :

Unreal Tournament 2004
Rise Of Nations
Neverwinter Nights
Doom 3
Max Payne 2
Transport Giant
and a bunch of older games....

Anyhow, no more wait, give this a shot :

Right click-mouse over My Computer
Properties
Hardware(Tab)
Device Manager(button)
Click [+] next to System devices
right-mouse on CPU to AGP Controller (or whatever your controller is called, mine was SiS AGP)
Update Driver(button)

Select Install from a list or specific location (Advanced)
Next(button)
Select Don't search. I will choose the driver to install.
Next(button)
Select PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Next(button)
Finish(button)
Reboot.

Please let me know how this works for you.
Good luck.

I've tried to do this, but I can't seem to find the right controller for it, it isn't in system devices at all. I have Widows XP and I don't know why it's not there, but does it by any chance run under a different name than those you've given? I really don't want to mess up my computer, but I do want to play the games I have and run the computer without problems.
Help.
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  #27  
Old 08-27-2005
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Well the love Hate relationship continues....There very few things more frustrating then having a computer problem that there is no clear cut absolute
fix for it.And very few things more satisfying then fixing what you were sure was to be a "Toss the old and get a new" solution.
That said this problem with "ati2dvag bsod" is that kind of problem ,while
cobrakaun's fix worked it did deminish performance (that we paid good money for),and others posted fix's that worked for them but not a blanket fix.
Well heres what worked for me:
First I did "cobrakaun's fix", then I uninstalled the drivers and control panel,restarted went into safe mode used DriverCleaner(download here http://www.drivercleaner.net) then did a file search "ati*.*" and removed all of them,then went into registry use RegCleaner(small free app dowload here http://www.worldstart.com/weekly-dow...cleaner4.3.htm) and deleted all entries pertaining to ati there.Restarted in normal mode,stopped windows Hardware installer from running,then stopped all running programs,and installed Cat.ver.5.6,after install did not restart went into SystemInfo/HardWare/DeviceManager/ System Devices,went to what I had changed in "cobrakaun's fix", (which was now PCI bridge standard PCI to PCI Bridge) right clicked that update driver then chose "Via CPU to AGP2.0/AGP3.0 Controller" installed that then started.Durring restart went into
the Bios made sure all Fast writes,reads were disabled and appature size was equal to on card memmory,saved and exit.Once Windows loaded,went into Display/Settings(fixed my resolution)/Advanced/Troubleshooting checked to make sure hardware excel was maxed out,and Write combining was checked,
then went to VPU Recover Tab and checked that it was active left it that way.
5 days no "ati2dvag bsod" ,as I stated above not sure it will work for all but so far is for me(Fingers and toes crossed).
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  #28  
Old 08-27-2005
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Thank you very much, I'll give it a try as soon as I can and let you know the results ^^.
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  #29  
Old 08-28-2005
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Thanks!!

I had tried different video drivers, plus the cipset drivers for my laptop and with COBRA's advice I was able to boot into VGA mode and make the neccesary pci bridge to pci bridge change, and it fixed the infinite looping! WOOT!
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  #30  
Old 09-11-2005
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You are a living god!

Thank you. I had radeon problems as described with Sony Vaio, this has completely fixed it - I think!

BTW, do you know what the fix is actually doing?

Thanks

Mike
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  #31  
Old 09-28-2005
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An alternate solution for those with an "ASUS A8V Deluxe/ATI 9800XT 128MB" combo...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fitz58
Well the love Hate relationship continues....There very few things more frustrating then having a computer problem that there is no clear cut absolute
fix for it.And very few things more satisfying then fixing what you were sure was to be a "Toss the old and get a new" solution.
That said this problem with "ati2dvag bsod" is that kind of problem ,while
cobrakaun's fix worked it did deminish performance (that we paid good money for),and others posted fix's that worked for them but not a blanket fix.
Well heres what worked for me:
First I did "cobrakaun's fix", then I uninstalled the drivers and control panel,restarted went into safe mode used DriverCleaner(download here http://www.drivercleaner.net) then did a file search "ati*.*" and removed all of them,then went into registry use RegCleaner(small free app dowload here http://www.worldstart.com/weekly-dow...cleaner4.3.htm) and deleted all entries pertaining to ati there.Restarted in normal mode,stopped windows Hardware installer from running,then stopped all running programs,and installed Cat.ver.5.6,after install did not restart went into SystemInfo/HardWare/DeviceManager/ System Devices,went to what I had changed in "cobrakaun's fix", (which was now PCI bridge standard PCI to PCI Bridge) right clicked that update driver then chose "Via CPU to AGP2.0/AGP3.0 Controller" installed that then started.Durring restart went into
the Bios made sure all Fast writes,reads were disabled and appature size was equal to on card memmory,saved and exit.Once Windows loaded,went into Display/Settings(fixed my resolution)/Advanced/Troubleshooting checked to make sure hardware excel was maxed out,and Write combining was checked,
then went to VPU Recover Tab and checked that it was active left it that way.
5 days no "ati2dvag bsod" ,as I stated above not sure it will work for all but so far is for me(Fingers and toes crossed).

First off, I'd like to thank everyone for the contributions to this thread, these VIA/XP/ATI combo issues can be a pain to troubleshoot. Following Fitz58's modified steps helped resolve the error I was having with a new rig I built for my wife (ASUS A8V Deluxe/ATI RADEON 9800XT 128MB/AMD64 3000+/"WindowsXP SP1 embedded upgraded to SP2" combo). However, I discovered I had to make two changes to his solution to get it to work for this type of system (i'm more used to settings in MSI boards; kinda new to ASUS):
  • BIOS Settings - In addition to disabling AGP Fast Write for this board, I also had to to disable both AGP 3.0 Calibration cycle & DBI Output for AGP Trans settings and set AGP Mode to 4x instead of 8x. It seemed as if 8x caused instablity for this type of setup once the VIA drivers were re-enabled during the course of Fitz58's steps.

  • ATI Drivers - Instead of using the Catylyst 5.6 drivers, I went ahead and got the newer ones (as of this post); the 5.9 version. I had to use these since they address a problem my wife was having with Battlefield 2 and City of Heroes.

After modifying the steps as described above, the system is now running solid...although at 4x AGP with no fastwrites; better than nothing !

Last edited by krizzik; 09-28-2005 at 02:30 PM..
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  #32  
Old 10-03-2005
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help meee!!!

I went and bought myself 2 asus ax300se pciex cards, along with components to build 2 brand new pcs (everything except fot the hdd's).

now, one card works perfectly, while the other repeatedly gets the infinite loop issue. i have tried swapping cards, and i get the same problem with the same card, which leads me to believe that its a card issue with this particular card.

however, when i took the card back to my supplier (eclipse computers in coventry, UK for those interested) and they have "run some tests" and found no fault. twice.

any suggestions please?

Last edited by killakiddz; 10-03-2005 at 01:58 PM..
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  #33  
Old 10-26-2005
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anyone??? please?????
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  #34  
Old 11-18-2005
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Only two years

Thx. I bought my ATI All-in-Wonder 7000 two years ago and battled with this problem on and off for a year...I finally shelved the card. I cleaned out my basement and found the card...I figured I would google "infinite loop Via Radeon 7000" again and see i anything new showed up...

This fix worked. I only wish i had not given up and seen this post when you posted it in Oct 2004...Oh well.

Hey..my tv card is working now....thanks
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  #35  
Old 11-19-2005
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bridge didnt work but i did fix it

the bridge thing didnt work for me my coputer kept restarting, but i found out if you go into your bios and go to your grapichs card setting and disable "spread spectrum" it seems to fix the problem
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  #36  
Old 02-10-2006
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which is my CPU to AGP controller? i cant wai tot try this fix as i've been having this problem on my toshiba laptop. WindowsXP, ATI radeon 7000 AGP, celeron processor, 256MB RAM.

here is the list i get on right clicking system devices....

ACPI Fan
ACPi Fixed Feature Button
ACPI Lid
ACPI Thermal Zone
ATI RS200/RS200M/RS250M Accelerated Graphics Port
ATI SMBus
Direct Memory Acces Controller
Generic Bus
ISAPNP read data port
Microcode update device
Microsoft ACPI-Compliant Embedded Controller
Microsoft ACPI-Compliant System
Microsoft Composite Battery
Microsoft System Management BIOS Driver
Motherboard Resources
Numeric Data Processor
PCI Bus
PCI standard host CPU bridge
PCI Standard ISA bridge
PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Plug and Play Software Device Enumerator
Programmable Interrupt Controller
System Board
System CMOS/realtime clock
System Speaker
System Timer
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  #37  
Old 03-03-2006
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Well.. It worked fine for about 10 min, then my screen just got black as hell

I have P4 3,2ghz sis-thingie
Nvidia 6600GT 128mb
1024mb PC3200

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  #38  
Old 03-21-2006
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hellow man i dont know what to say but i have had a lot of problems with my pc with the stop erro and rebooting im a learning technician and i fix computer but this one i did every thing i could do but nothing helped i have tried your suggestion and it might be a good one thanx very much man ill keep observing so far so good thanx a lot


pc specs
intel p4 3.0 gigsocket 775
1024 ddr2 ram
nvidia winfast px6600 le 256mb pci express
120 gig hdd
gigabyte mother board
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  #39  
Old 06-01-2006
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I am working on a Sony Vaio VGN-S260 and am having that darn infinite loop blue screen then black screen error.

I applied the fix mentioned in the first post and it worked fine temporarily. However, after two weeks of sitting on the shelf I tried to boot it again and to my dismay I got the same frickin' infinite loop error.

Now it was worse than before. I was going to try the bios spectrum fix mentioned by someone but my graphics card does not show up in the bios.

Any other ideas? Fixes? I really need to have this fixed as I can't afford to buy another laptop.

Many thanks!
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Old 06-28-2006
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Hi "Cobrakaun"

This is what u wrote...

right-mouse on CPU to AGP Controller (or whatever your controller is called, mine was SiS AGP)
Update Driver(button)
Select Install from a list or specific location (Advanced)
Next(button)
Select Don't search. I will choose the driver to install.
Next(button)
Select PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
----------------------

I don't hv any CPU to AGP ctrl in my DevMgr... or any similar entry. However, I do hv 2 entries for PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge. What do I do?

My system configuration:-
Intel D102G Mainbrd - ATI Radeon Express 200 chipset with intg A/V/N
P4 - 3.06
512MB DDR2
80GB SATA
Combo Drv
Win XP Pro SP2

This is a brand new PC, purchased just last week, and has been locking-up/ restarting/ giving blue-screens from day one!

I hv done clean-reinstalls several times until I realized it was actually the vid drvr prb.

Hv downloaded n installed the latest drivers n the ATI Catalyst Control Centre s/w, after uninstalling all ATI products from my system COMPLETELY. No good.

Some other forum mentioned sth abt disabling "Fast Writes" under the "SMARTGART" tab... I dont hv that option in my Catalyst Control Centre advance interface. Hv disabled the "Write combining" option in Windows Display Properties though, which didnt help either.

Plz help!
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