Random BSODs with fresh XP install, need guru help!

OBS said:

Hello all, i've decided to post in this thread as well, having similar

problems and a similar system as l3stat. I'm getting random BSODs at

random times as well, but all of them are PAGE FAUL IN NONPAGED AREA.

Specs:
AMD athlon 64 3200+ Venice
ASUS A8N SLi Deluxe
2 gigs corsair XMS RAM
ATI X800 XL
WD 350 gig HD

Key info: running on Win XP profession x64 edition.

All of the BSODs seem to refer to one file: ati2dvag.dll. This file is
part of the ATI driver. When i roll my mouse over it, it says its a
Windows NT ATI RADEON driver. I've tried deleting this file
completely, and the display got completely messed up, so i think thats
out of the question.
EArlier, i thougth i had solved the problem by deleting the Catalyst
Control Center, which comes with the ATI drivers (i'm using Catalyst
5.13). Everything seemed to be working fine, then i started getting
the error again.
All the parts i'm using are brand new, i finished building the rig last
tuesday.
I'll attach some minidumps, hopefully that will help.
Oh, and i did memtest, but for only one cycle. no errors though. I'll do it for longer tonight.

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Save Dumps 1,2, 3 and 4 Are
Unable to load image ati2dvag.dll, Win32 error 2
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for ati2dvag.dll
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for ati2dvag.dll
Probably caused by : ati2dvag.dll ( ati2dvag+13156 )

Followup: MachineOwner
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Which Are ATi Display Drivers/

try to download the latest ATI drivers from their website. I got rid of ATI based cards as lately they have been having a lot of incompatibility problems. My last two cards were NVIDIA based and I have had NO problems.

@l3stat

Uninstall all of the nVidia drivers from the Add/Remove prog. in Control Panel, reboot, install first the newest official nForce drivers. During install, dont install SW IDE or NAM, yes, that's right don't install NAM - I know you want it, but just try once to see if it's the root of the problems (and judging how many people have problems with P2P software when running NAM at the same time, I wouldn't be surprised).
Reboot, then install the newest official ForceWare, reboot again.

Try doing that, then report back.

@OBS

Uninstall ATI drivers, reboot, and install an older version of Catalyst drivers that used to work, but don't install the CCC version, install the plain Control Panel version...

Alright, thanks Arcanum, i might just have to try that. I have a couple more things to try with the ATI card. I'll try installing earlier versions of the catalyst drivers, like you said. Also, theres something strange i noticed: in the device manager, under display adapters it has two things:
ATI Radeon X800 (primary)
ATI Radeon X800 (secondary)
I only have one card...so that seems a bit odd. Any thoughts?

Also: i did what tedster suggested and grabbed an nVidia card (a 7800GT). I put that one in, installed the latest x64 drivers (81.89). It didn't work right away, i had to go into the device manager and manually show windows where the drivers were. After that, windows recognized the card. However, when i put a load on the card, everything freezes, forcing me to restart. I'm thinking the card is overheating because the fan just doesn't seem to turn on, or at least not go on to full speed. The card requires 26A on the 12v current, but i only have 18A, which is probably the problem. Tell me what you think. If it is, i guess i'll either have to get a new PSU, get the ATI to work, or get a 6800GT...well, thanks for the help.

Hey hey, whaddya know, i just got a BSOD also, and guess what it listed? an nvidia driver, which is probably the display driver...oh yay...this is getting old very fast

Okay, will try it out. I think I got enough of Nvidia for now, will stick to a software firewall. Totally forgot about checking back, thanks for the replies! Will report after trying.

Update on my situation, when using utorrent, I seem to get stability with NAM security profile set at at "Medium" default. Been running for about 8hrs now. Of course downside is traffic is slowed to a trickle, with most incoming connections blocked. Will install a new O/S and driver combination if I can muster up the courage to face the installation screens again.

@OBS
You say that you're running XP x64, I hope you have a dual boot with the normal WinXP - if you do, is the problem also present there?
If you dont have a dual boot, could you try to set it up (install normal WinXP)? Just to see if thats not the problem, x64 drivers still have their quirks that need to be sorted out.
btw, those two entries are completely normal for ATi cards...

@l3stat
Thought so, some people never had one hitch with NAM running all the time, even with P2P apps, yet other people have their computer crashing all the time because of it... nVidia needs to do some serius debugging.

@arcanum

Yes, seems to be NAM that's causing the problems. Last before I wiped my machine, drivers I downloaded with NAM on were corrupt. Put in a new O/S again, but without NAM and the SW IDE drivers. Machine runs sweet! And ethernet is working great. Tested the machine with a couple of torrent downloads, as well as a few games, no problems at all.

Thanks for the tips fellas. While I'm glad I got the stuff working after all, am quite sore the NAM doesn't work as it should.

XP64 has a lot of issues ... at this time rather go for XP Pro. You probably do not have enough RAM to make XP64 worthwhile anyway.

Norton's ... I have 8 machines, and responsible for 3000 more ... you won't find N anywhere near any of them.

@ l3stat
Glad to have helped

@ OBS
Did you try installing WinXP non x64 yet?

yeah, i'm back, i tried installing a copy of XP Home, and it works flawlessly. I guess i'll just have to stick with 32 bit OS until things becocme more stable! ah well, thanks for the help.

I'm glad both of you sorted out your problems and all is fine now

Glad we could be of some assistance

OBS said:

yeah, i'm back, i tried installing a copy of XP Home, and it works flawlessly. I guess i'll just have to stick with 32 bit OS until things becocme more stable! ah well, thanks for the help.

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think WIndows 64 is Unstable, Try Longhorn

longhorn is windows vista which is also a beta and not officially released.

Don't know if this thread is still alive or not....

Hey guys, I apologize if this thread is done and over with, but I'm having similar problems, namely BSOD with SAVRT.sys and Page fault in Nonpaged Area being the culprits.
I've been running around Google, checking out what other people say about it, and I've tried several options, disabling SAVRT.sys in the recovery console, booting into safe mode (won't do it), and messing around with my BIOS settings. I'm on a Gigabyte GA-8N Sli with a Pentium D 820, and the BIOS has several tweaking options for memory, but I really don't play around with them too much, because I don't know what half of them mean...speaking of which, can anyone tell me what an LDT is? Or a spread spectrum?
Anyways, on to my current problem....it's taken me 2 months to get this system to install Windows, and I am not kidding you here. I've been through 4 motherboards, and every part in the system has been switched out at least once. The only way I can install Windows is if I put my roommate's P4 3.2 LGA 775 in for the install, then switch it back after I'm done. Hence, I have both my 64 bit and my 32 bit installed on the same machine (different hard drives, though). It wasn't until last week that I could even get past install, and it was very strange, because once I installed both operating systems, it was like a demon left my computer or something, everything has been running smooth as can be ever since, and I can boot from either os just fine. I was running on 512 megs of K-byte RAM, waiting for some new Corsair XM2 to arrive via fedex, which just got here today.
One thing that caught my eye....We're all running Corsair ram, and Nforce 4 chipsets, although mine is for intel. I'm also running an ATI All in Wonder PCI Express Graphics Card.
I've updated all my drivers within the last week, and I've got all my Windows updates, AND I've flashed my BIOS to the latest version. My power supply is brand new also, a CoolerMaster 600W with the biggest fan I've ever seen, and miles of plugs, half of which I don't even know what they are!
So I just put that new RAM in, and immediately I get the BSOD off both operating systems, on the 64 I get to the logon screen, 32 I can't even get that far.
Is my new RAM bad (Oh God, I hope not!), or is it a problem with Norton, or is it a problem with my chipset and my ram not liking each other? Why, when I get to the recovery console, does it tell me it can't find SAVRT.sys in the registry? And what am I supposed to do about any of it if I can't even boot into safe mode?
Please help, all I want is a system I can run my graphics editing programs on without having to reinstall windows every 5 days! My roommate isn't going to be around with his processor forever! Don't get me wrong, I love the fact that I CAN build my own system, but these last two months have been hell on wheels, and I am so done for a little bit! I've never, ever had this many problems getting a single computer up and running. Thanks in advance!! tiedyejax

Symantec Antivirus email tools cause problem

I found that, by default, the Symantec Antivirus program installs email tools. These tools may be described as flaky and when they flake, they cause the exact error you spoke of. Go to Add/Remove Programs, choose Symantec Antivirus and select Change/Remove and then modify when it comes up. Simply tell it not to install the email tools. You can always put it back if it doesn't fix the problem.

I had this shutdown several of our Lotus Notes servers until someone came up with this fix. Same error message appeared every time about a page fault in nonpaged area.