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Old 11-20-2005
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The sad fact is whenever you buy a low end "value" PC, it is NOT a gaming computer and attempts to make it so will be met with only limited success. Whether it is brand new or not is irrelevant. Surf the internet, play DVDs, rip CDs, write documents, make greeting cards, etc. A low end, budget PC is fine for these tasks but to expect it to work well with high end gaming is unrealistic.
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Old 01-02-2006
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The sad fact is whenever you buy a low end "value" PC, it is NOT a gaming computer and attempts to make it so will be met with only limited success. Whether it is brand new or not is irrelevant. Surf the internet, play DVDs, rip CDs, write documents, make greeting cards, etc. A low end, budget PC is fine for these tasks but to expect it to work well with high end gaming is unrealistic.
Yes thats true but depends on what type of games they are and what you havfe running while you are playing games i have maxed out all of my upgrades and then some and im running real smooth now
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Old 01-02-2006
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I have the dimension 3000 too what CPU do you have?

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Originally Posted by bassguitar15
Same problem that i had. I have a Dell 3000 and a Radeon 9250 PCI. Seems the PCI is not powerful enough. Your only alternitave is to buy and install a new motherboard.
Becouse if you got the Dimension with the Celeron you are in bad shape let me know and let me know what your running as far as specs thanks
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Old 01-02-2006
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thanks man thats a nice little tool and the card seems to be pretty decent i guess ill buy it and see how it goes i was looking for a nvidia card to begin with. heres what that tool says about my mobo

Field Value
Motherboard Properties
Motherboard ID <DMI>
Motherboard Name Dell Dimension 3000

Front Side Bus Properties
Bus Type Intel NetBurst
Bus Width 64-bit
Real Clock 133 MHz (QDR)
Effective Clock 533 MHz
Bandwidth 4266 MB/s

Memory Bus Properties
Bus Type DDR SDRAM
Bus Width 64-bit
Real Clock 167 MHz (DDR)
Effective Clock 333 MHz
Bandwidth 2666 MB/s

Chipset Bus Properties
Bus Type Intel Hub Interface
Bus Width 8-bit
Real Clock 67 MHz (QDR)
Effective Clock 267 MHz
Bandwidth 267 MB/s

Motherboard Manufacturer
Company Name Dell Computer Corporation
Product Information http://www.dell.com
BIOS Download http://support.dell.com
get that clock speed up it makes a huge difference and get dual channel 512mb ram each it helps so much if ytou do eny gaming
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Old 01-02-2006
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get that clock speed up it makes a huge difference and get dual channel 512mb ram each it helps so much if ytou do eny gaming
and how do you suppose he does that? you cant even look at the FSB setting on a dell, let alone change them.
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and how do you suppose he does that? you cant even look at the FSB setting on a dell, let alone change them.
all you have to do is look at how fast of ram you have and that will tell you
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Old 01-02-2006
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dual channel 512mb ram each
On that 133mhz fsb, dual channel is not possible


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all you have to do is look at how fast of ram you have and that will tell you

Im was saying that you can not change the FSB in BIOS.
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Old 01-04-2006
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**** that really sucks
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Old 02-03-2006
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Hey everyone. I'm new 2 this forum. I just wanted to say not 2 give up hope on ur Dimension 3000 just yes. When I ordered mine they tried to tell me that I couldn't edit my videos or play games. I told the lady flat out thats not true cuz i was doin it on a Gateway at 500mhz (i know). That shut her up. Anyway she told me I couldn't upgrade. HAHAHA! She must've thought I was stupid. Here's my system:

Dimension 3000
P4 3.0 GHz with Hyper-Threading
512 Mb RAM
DELL 15" E153FP Flat Panel display (couldn't pass up the free upgrade)
80 Gb Hard drive
Creative Sound Blaster Live! 5.1
HP DVD Writer 630 (dual layer,all formats, 16x burn)
ATX Black Case with blue LEDs and Alien Fan grills
1 120mm fan, 5 80mm fans, and one fan i put on my gpu
ATI Radeon 9250 256Mb Graphics Card -->newest edition. just put on this week!


I must say this comp holds its own when I play games with ths IST gang and friends. It might not be any XPS but what do u expect for a bottom model PC. I think I made some nice upgrades to it. The graphics card is the best touch though. This thing is AMAZING for only being PCI card. If you ever played F.E.A.R. its a pretty damn demanding game graphically. Now I can't run it on all maxed settings, but there are few cards out that can. Unless u spend as much on ur card as u did ur 3000, and it wouldn't be compatable anyway cuz they're all goin pci-express. I had to post though when i saw people who share the same system i do and esp when i saw people happy with their Radeon 9250 cards. Its def one of the best PCI cards out there for the price (last I saw around $100, I got mine for $40) If anyone knows how much RAM the motherboard can hold I'd greatly appreciate if you told me. Thanks!

Last edited by tOnY05; 02-03-2006 at 01:34 AM..
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Old 02-18-2006
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Dell dimension 3000 tv out card ?

Hi all not sure if im posting in the right section?

Anyways i have a dell dimension 3000 and all i want to do is play films from my harddrive to my tv.

my tv is a rear projector and has s-video scart ect

i only use my pc for web Browsing and watching films and never for games, Would this card be sufficient for what I want?

http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...duct_uid=73758
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Old 02-18-2006
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Same problem that i had. I have a Dell 3000 and a Radeon 9250 PCI. Seems the PCI is not powerful enough. Your only alternitave is to buy and install a new motherboard.
He's right; no way will BF2 work on my 2400 Dell Dimension either. But.... I am dang surprised at the fact that my computer can play all of the Steam games with a constant 40fps, especially on Half-Life 2, Counter-Strike Source, and Day of Defeat Source. I really want a new motherboard and stuff. But with Dells, you can’t get an entirely new motherboard with AGP or PCI-Express that will harbor your old processor. You'll need a new processor if you want to upgrade your graphics card. I think you need entirely new memory if you want a PCI-Express motherboard too.
Specs:
Dell Dimension 2400
2.8 GHZ Processor P4
1024 MB of memory-didn't come with computer
160 GB HD-didn't come with computer
ATI Radeon 9250 256mb PCI-didn't come with computer
POS CRT Monitor
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Old 02-18-2006
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If anyone knows how much RAM the motherboard can hold I'd greatly appreciate if you told me.
2gb, 1gb per slot, of ddr400(or ddr333).

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Originally Posted by neon3008
Hi all not sure if im posting in the right section?

Anyways i have a dell dimension 3000 and all i want to do is play films from my harddrive to my tv.

my tv is a rear projector and has s-video scart ect

i only use my pc for web Browsing and watching films and never for games, Would this card be sufficient for what I want?

http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...duct_uid=73758
No, that card is agp, and your 3000 doesn't have an agp slot. You need a pci card, like this.
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...duct_uid=91364

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But with Dells, you can’t get an entirely new motherboard with AGP or PCI-Express that will harbor your old processor. You'll need a new processor if you want to upgrade your graphics card. I think you need entirely new memory if you want a PCI-Express motherboard too.
Yes you can, I've done it, several manufacturers make motherboards that can be made to work in a dell. The board just has to be a micro atx, socket 478, and have an agp slot.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...280+1075707619
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Old 02-19-2006
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thanks for the reply jusr wondered if this card would be ok as i am on a tight budget.

http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...duct_uid=55269
  #34  
Old 02-20-2006
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OH BOY !! I too have a Dimension 3000. The bottom line on the video upgrade is on bootup the bios was writen to look for onboard or agp. And of course theres no agp slot. So it ignores pci video. I have tried everything and its down to changing the motherboard. Unless someone out there has had the same problem and found a way around it. I sure would like to know. But I think thats what you may have to end up doing.
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Old 02-21-2006
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hmmmm

right not i'm on my vaio. but when i get home i'll look and see what my bios says. i don't remember it lookin for an agp slot though. i have an ati radeon 9250 with 256 ddr memory (awesome pci card by the way) and i just installed the card and the drivers and i was fine. i'll get back 2 u on what my bios said then when i'm done classes. good luck!
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Old 02-21-2006
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OH BOY !! I too have a Dimension 3000. The bottom line on the video upgrade is on bootup the bios was writen to look for onboard or agp. And of course theres no agp slot. So it ignores pci video. I have tried everything and its down to changing the motherboard. Unless someone out there has had the same problem and found a way around it. I sure would like to know. But I think thats what you may have to end up doing.

i hope it doesn`t ignore the pci? otherwise i just wasted £40 on this card

http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...duct_uid=91364
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  #37  
Old 03-20-2006
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I read all of message in this post.

I have dell dimension 3000 since one year.
It Celeron

256mg ram
intel extreme graphics integred

I speak french so i try to write in english.

I wait for my 1gig memory. Tomorow my order arrive.

But my question is about video card. I find 3 computer store in Ottawa have
radeon PCI 9250 256mg ddr
which is better for my computer upgrade?

PowerColor ATI Radeon 9250 PCI 256MB DDR TV-Out DVI Retail 135.00$

The Saphire Radeon 9250 256MB DDR PCI - $95.00

i don't have the exactly name of third card (109$), i ask it by email.

Do you think the price 135$ it's because the mark 'ATI' and video out (i don't need that)

This two card it is the exactly make same job? and better of my actual videocard integred

I hope my question is understanding.

Sandra
  #38  
Old 03-20-2006
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You want to get the one with a 128bit memory interface, as they will be faster than a 64bit card. Brand doesn't make much difference.
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Old 03-23-2006
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I need help with a Graphic Card Issue!!

I have a Dell Dimension 3000 Processor Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
Processor Speed 2.92 GHz
Memory (RAM) 512 MB
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Professional
Operating System Version 5.1.2600
With a Intel 82865 Graphic card
I Just recently tried installing the new Elder Scrolls Oblivion 4 game to find out my video card didnt work with it.

So since i am stupid..here is a list of graphic card options The elder scrolls website says i could use with the game I need to know which one of these is the best one for a dell dimension 3000 and perhaps if anyone can give me an idea how to install a video card that would be great beacuse apparently reading this forum it does not have a AGP slot so i have to get a PCI card or something help i want to play my game
OBLIVION : WINDOWS XP : RESOLUTION 23532

Q: What are the supported video cards for Oblivion?

A: Oblivion for PC supports the following video cards/chipsets:


* ATI X1900 series
* ATI X1800 series
* ATI X1600 series
* ATI X1300 series
* ATI X850 series
* ATI x800 series
* ATI x700 series
* ATI x600 series
* ATI Radeon 9800 series
* ATI Radeon 9700 series
* ATI Radeon 9600 series
* ATI Radeon 9500 series
* NVIDIA GeForce 7800 series
* NVIDIA GeForce 6800 series
* NVIDIA GeForce 6600 series
* NVIDIA GeForce 6200 series
* NVIDIA GeForce FX series (5700 or above)
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Old 03-23-2006
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Catriel1975, I don't think a PCI slot can have any of those except the FX5700 (I think)

Here! An FX5700LE: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814139166

I don't think you should get it because it has 64-bit memory. By the way, just because some other cards are not supported doesn't mean they won't work. It means you won't get any support if you're having problems. Instead get the FX5500, it has 128-bit memory and higher speed. The one I'm listing has 256MB of 128-bit memory, 270mhz core clock and 400mhz memory clock which is PRETTY good. http://www.newegg.com/Product/CustRa...82E16814143032

EDIT: A MIRACLE HAS HAPPENED FOR THE PCI USERS!!!(Not really but well, it helps)
I was looking at the reviews for the 3D Fuzion Geforce FX5500 and I realized someone posted that at bestbuy, they sell a PCI 6200 (350mhz core clock, 410mhz memory clock and 256mb of what I think is 128-bit memory. It's a BFG brand which is obviously factory-overclocked.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1130987962366

So yeah, all PCI users who are in need of a new video card, this is THE best one at the moment.
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