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  #61  
Old 04-20-2006
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Just checking but did you install the latest driver for your new graphics card? Also, don't take this the wrong way but is your monitor connected to the new graphics card?

Last edited by mailpup; 04-21-2006 at 06:15 PM.. Reason: spelling error.
  #62  
Old 04-21-2006
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Thanks Cartera, but I've already done that. The Video graphics IS set to Auto instead of OnBoard. Any other suggestions??
Then did u disable the onboard graphics after you changed the video settings in bios? Also does your graphics card have two slots for the monitor if so try both and when the onboard graphics have been disabled THEN u plug the monitor into your graphics card. Otherwise i'd try contacting dell they maybe know help but if u persist and ask for a level 2 because they actually know what they are doing. ive done this before and also if that doesnt work see if radeon can help! Update when uve tried wot ive sed.
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Old 04-21-2006
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I got it to work. It turned out to be a bad card. I returned it and it now works fine. Thanks for everybody's help!!
  #64  
Old 05-09-2006
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Sorry Guys *Tear*

sorry to bump an old thread, but upon searching google after getting frustrated with my wonderful machine we call a Dell Dimension 3000, i found this website


my problem is this:


i just bought a 3D Fuzion nVidia GeForce 6200 (PCI) for my Dimension 3000...i installed everything allright...it's all showing up on my PC...i disabled my P.O.S. standard graphics card that came with this thing, and now, whenever i try to use my 6200, my icons turn GIGANTIC..like someone messed with my settings or something

and to top THAT off, whenever i try plugging my moniter into my new video card, it says:

"Cannot Display This Video Mode"


i tried updating my drivers, says everything is where it needs to be


has anyone else had this problem?

and can someone help me out plz...


EDIT: just turned off the Onboard Vid Card to Auto in the Bios and now whenever i plug in my Moniter to my new card, the system boots up, but stays a blank screen

Last edited by Fable; 05-09-2006 at 03:11 AM.. Reason: new info :D
  #65  
Old 05-10-2006
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Trouble with my GeForce FX5200 256MB

hi there
im having trouble trying to install my new graphics card, i am unsure what to do and unsure if the card even work with my dell dimension 3000, because im english there are not many places to get a graphics card on the net in england which is pci and 256mb.this is the card i have

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/...489584-4766226

I have put the pci card in the computer but when i connect the vga to the graphics card there is just a blank screen.
could i have some advise on trying to install?

cheers rob
  #66  
Old 05-10-2006
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Fable i had exactly the same problem with my dimension. You need to enter bios upon start up of the computer by pressing F2 when the machine is loading up. The move down the list untill you find integrated devices. Then look in the next menu for a thing that says onboard video buffer this should be set to onboard. You should be able to change this to auto. Once changing this to auto star t using your graphics card it should work properly. Make sure once you have done this you still have the integrated graphics turned off from the system menu and that you are using the graphics card to run your monitor on. Reply if your still having problems, it took me 4 months to get mine working and dell was little help at all.
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Old 05-10-2006
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Hiya rob,
You need to start up your machine and while it is loading press F2 to enter your system bios. Then scroll down the menu and click on a title that is called integrated devices. Under this menu you will need to find a title called onboard video buffer or something alike(dell machines aren't all the same as ive been told by dell) this should have two options one called onboard and another called auto select auto. Then Go to windows and onto control panel and then click on performance and maintenance. Now click on the button called system, Then go to hardware and then click on the button device manager. Let me remind you you should have your graphics card installed and in your machine. When device manager comes up look down the list for display adaptors and then you should see your intel integrated graphics and your graphics card which you have purchased and installed. You need to right click on the intel graphics and disable them. Once disabled turn off your computer and plug your monitor into the graphics card and turn your computer on again it should now be working properly.
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  #68  
Old 05-13-2006
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cheers cartera what you said worked, thanks a lot for your help
  #69  
Old 05-29-2006
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Hi guys,
I've been reading through forums lately on how to upgrade my video card on my Dell Dimension 3000. This seems to be the best thread with helpfull people and because I don't know much about computers I guess I have a couple of questions. My 3000 has a P4 with a gig of ram, Windows XP etc, and I play World of Warcraft frequently. The computer plays it fine, it's a little choppy here and there and sometimes laggy but not bad.

My first question is will a PCI video card be a noticeable upgrade?
Second is will the difference between the GeForce 6200 and the ATI 9225(?) be worth the difference in price?
And last question, is my computer able to run the above cards without further upgrades? You mentioned I might need a power supply, but from the people in this thread that have upgraded to the GeFroce or Radeon, did you?

Thanks fellas, I hope I don't seem like a newb

Ryan
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Old 05-31-2006
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so yeah, I'm pretty much in the same situation as the rest of the Dimensin 3000 users. I only have a pci slot.

Yesterday, I decided to order a 128mb/64 bit version of the Geforce 6200 made by 3D Fuzion. I read the the article that guy vnf4ultra posted so I was convinced to buy the 6200. I'm just bothered that it only costs $27 while the other cards where twice as expensive.

I chose it over a JATON Geforce FX5700LE, POWERCOLOR Radeon 9250, and a PNY Geforce FX5500.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814139166
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814131411
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814133134

Did I make the right decision?
  #71  
Old 05-31-2006
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I would say that the 6200 was the best choice. Right now the BFG 6200 256MB is the best PCI card, but it is expensive.
  #72  
Old 05-31-2006
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oh yeah, I forgot to put the link for the card I bought
http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16814143058

I just don't get why it's so cheap if it's better than the other models.
  #73  
Old 06-02-2006
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Alright, I got a Dell 3000 with the P4 a Nvidia 5500 256mb 128bit and 1gb of ram in it right now. The PCI graphics I am seeing are pretty.... well.... insufficient. What would it take to get the best juice out of this system in terms of transplanting to a new motherboard? I'd like PCI-E... however I know I cant have everything. I'd also like to be able to keep the processor since I think thats the only thing worth value in this box. I can still return the video card for an exchange since I've only had it a few days.

Thanks in advance guys.
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Old 06-24-2006
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Heres what someone did and im planning on doing the same in two days.

"FYI. I have had perfect success with my DELL! I replaced the motherboard in my DELL Dimension 3000 PC with an ASUS P4P800-VM (93.00 at zipzoomfly), and it works perfectly. I replaced the mobo because the original DELL board did not have an AGP slot. After carefully measuring all the voltages of the power supply connectors and checking the mounting hole locations, I was able to determine that this is a direct drop-in replacement board. What is all the fuss about? Apparently DELL is totaly M-ATX compliant now. (This pc was purchased in 2004). I installed an ATI 9200 graphics card, 2 CD/DVD drives, 2 HD, and 1394 card, and all is working very well on the original DELL power supply (250 Watt). All the mounting screws line up perfectly, all the slots line up perfectly, the fan shrould fits perfectly over the new board CPU socket, the PSU cables all plug direclt in and the pinout is exact ATX with one exception (no -5V lead on the DELL PSU, but apparently ASUS does not require this). The only mod I had to make was the front pannel connectons. I salvaged an old connector from a junk PC and used it in place of the DELL connector for HD led, PWR led, speaker (added), and reset switch. This is very easy to do if you are electronicaly inclined. Please contact me if you have any questions. So, after reading so many scary posts about DELLs, here is my conclusion.

ASUS mobo fit: PERFECT
DELL PSU: 250 W original PSU is fine for ASUS mobo + ATI 9200 + 4 discs
Original DELL DIMMs: Reused in ASUS board with no problems at all (pc3200, DDR400)
No SW or OS reinstall whatsoever was necessary! Just droped in the new board and powered up. Everything was just how I left it. (Important note: I had previously installed an original retail version of XP Pro on the old DELL mobo, this may have made things easier for the transition).

What an improvement in the graphics quality too over the onboard Extreme Graphics 2!"
  #75  
Old 06-26-2006
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Hi, I was wondering if there were any motherboards that fit into a dell 3000 and support pci-e cards.
  #76  
Old 06-26-2006
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Hi, I was wondering if there were any motherboards that fit into a dell 3000 and support pci-e cards.
If you just want it to "fit" and support pci-e x16, then yes, many micro atx boards have pci-e, but most are for amd socket 939 or intel socket 775, where you have a intel socket 478. There are a handful of socket 478 micro atx motherboards with pci-e built in, but they are hard to find.
I'd suggest getting an amd 939 board, along with an amd 3000+ cpu, since they're pretty cheap now. Both the amd board and the cpu together should be less than $170USD.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813138264
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103537

A socket 939 board will use regular ddr memory, which is what your dell should have, so your memory should still work.
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Old 06-26-2006
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Thanks, I'm new to this upgrading stuff, but would all socket 478 motherboards fit into my dell 3000?

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Old 06-26-2006
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Not all. Physically, just the micro ATX form factor motherboards. The standard ATX boards would be too large.
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Old 06-27-2006
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I don't favor Dell

I used to own a Dell Optiplex Gx110 Form Factor, a mistake to buy. I only had 2 pci slots and no agp slot. I had a 110 watt power supply, so I threw it aside, and built my own computer. The point is that Dell does not make gaming computers, and make sure you have at the minimum, a 250 watt power supply.
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Old 06-27-2006
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To be fair you can construct a decent gaming rig from Dell, you just have to willing to pay for one. The mistake a lot of people make is thinking they can buy a cheap "bargain" PC and think they can turn it into a gaming rig with a simple video card upgrade or something along those lines. Sometimes it's not that easy. End of sermon.
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