$1000-1200 Gaming PC (Feedback)

By Brenno29
May 11, 2013
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  1. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] I'm a TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 4,318   +117

    It's a decent cooler and it'll do fine.
  2. LukeDJ

    LukeDJ TechSpot Addict Posts: 414   +112

    Yeah, if it ain't available go ahead and get the 212+.
  3. Blkfx1

    Blkfx1 TechSpot Addict Posts: 879   +170

    Honestly, unless you plan to OC you don't need an aftermarket CPU cooler. Stock will be just fine for you and it will save you a bit of cash. You could put that saved cash into a slightly larger SSD.
  4. LukeDJ

    LukeDJ TechSpot Addict Posts: 414   +112

    Um, I'm not sure why you would think that, I'm pretty sure he does plan to overclock.

    Although he hasn't mentioned overclocking, he did decide on an i5-3570K, a Z77 motherboard AND an aftermarket CPU cooler in the first place. Judging by the obvious amount of research he put into the build, I don't think that was by accident.
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  5. Blkfx1

    Blkfx1 TechSpot Addict Posts: 879   +170


    Because, OP hasn't said he intended to? That is why I offered suggestion in the event he didn't. We are here to offer suggestions and help him cover all his bases. And, that is exactly what I am doing. You guys have been doing a lot of assuming with his build. Just like with the PSU suggestions automatically assuming he intended to crossfire when he never mentioned it. If kitty didn't step in and suggest a more reasonable component - you guys would have had him buying something he didn't need.
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  6. JC713

    JC713 TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 6,719   +873

    He might as well get a non k version and a B75 motherboard.

    I agree in that we are assuming, but the OP should know that if he is not doing crossfire (like we mentioned), then he wont need that much power.
  7. Blkfx1

    Blkfx1 TechSpot Addict Posts: 879   +170


    Indeed! If he isn't going to use the features that come with the current choices. Why not save some money while still keeping your performance the same.

    Again, we can't assume he does know these things. If the OP was completely solid on his choices - I don't think he would have asked for advice.
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  8. JC713

    JC713 TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 6,719   +873

    True. I just like providing people with the best stuff. It may be costly, but helps in the long run. I see what you mean though. Heck, we need opinions no doubt! Like you said, if you and hellokitty didnt step in, my more pricey selections would have been the only option present. Well played.
  9. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] I'm a TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 4,318   +117

    Me too I don't have a problem with the Z77 and 3570k :)
    Stock coolers are fine IMO, they can handle some minor overclocking as well if the ambient temperatures are not too high. Obviously the hyper 212 is a good choice if the OP does want to overclock.
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  10. LukeDJ

    LukeDJ TechSpot Addict Posts: 414   +112

    I understand it was just a suggestion, but I just thought it was extremely likely that the OP would want to overclock, based on his original components.

    The guy obviously has a pretty good idea of what he was doing, and he just thought that he wouldn't choose those components without the intention to overclock.
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  11. Brenno29

    Brenno29 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

    Sorry guys, I did reply on an ipod but it hasn't seemed to submit, I guess I should probably answer some of your questions about what I plan to do with the build. At this point in time I don't plan on crossfiring and I will most likely overclock the CPU (not very heavily). Even if I don't overclock the build at first I like having options to expand and upgrade in the future so I think the 3570k and the Z77 would be best. Would a 250GB SSD be necessary compared to the 120GB, I wouldn't think that the times between the 250 and 120GB SSDs would be that different to the point the loading times become unbearable, I am nudging the budget a little so I don't know how much more I can upgrade without blowing the budget however in saying that Iam open to any ideas about possible components that will keep the performance without the extra price tag added (Probably not much can be done here lol). Again, I am open to any ideas you have.

    Thanks for all the replies and help, brenno29
     
  12. LukeDJ

    LukeDJ TechSpot Addict Posts: 414   +112

    The performance difference between a 250GB and 120GB SSD is negligible, it's more about having the extra space to install programs and/or games.

    Actually the SSD Blkfx1 suggested is a regular 840 series, and not an 840 Pro, so it would probably be a bit slower.
  13. Blkfx1

    Blkfx1 TechSpot Addict Posts: 879   +170

    Ehhh, I didn't noticed he linked a PRO version earlier for the SSD. However, he wouldn't even notice a difference between the two when doing normal tasks. Only in benchmarks will you see that the pro version is slightly faster. But, I didn't suggest that SSD for the sake of speed but for more storage. Space fills up fast and it's always good to have more of it if you can wing it. If he wasn't going to OC and had extra funds from the CPU cooler he didn't need. It would have a been a good idea to up the SSD. Fortunately for the thread, OP did reply and clear up some of the things that were being assumed.
  14. Brenno29

    Brenno29 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

    I added an extra terabyte in an earlier post, wouldn't that be enough for my purposes?
  15. Blkfx1

    Blkfx1 TechSpot Addict Posts: 879   +170

    Let me rephrase - You can never have enough SSD storage lol. Yes, that is enough for your purposes I suppose. It was merely a suggestion in the event you didn't intend to OC. You don't necessarily 'need' it.
  16. JC713

    JC713 TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 6,719   +873

    The non-pro has lower quality NAND (shorter lifetime vs Pro version), but for the basic user, that is no issue.
  17. Blkfx1

    Blkfx1 TechSpot Addict Posts: 879   +170

    Yeah, but the Pro versions NAND isn't as reliable according to testing. I'll have to update my reply when I find the article. It's somewhere on Tom's Hardware. It's sort of a trade off I guess.
  18. JC713

    JC713 TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 6,719   +873

    Plus, the average user, and most moderate power users will not reach that high amount of reads and writes in a real life scenario. SSD testing/benchmarking is kind of useless since most users arent gonna reach those types of speeds.
     


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