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EXCellR8
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^For $130, yes. That card should give you enough juice to run those games you listed at that resolution. You may need to drop the settings on Crysis a tad but other than that you should be fine. Just make sure it actually fits in your system and that you have enough power to run it.
EXCellR8
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^What is with you and the whole "old school" blabber? The 8800GTS isn't really that old and would be fine to run Crysis, at least on an XP machine. Plus, he is getting a decent deal on it so I say just go for it. The HD4850 is not going "big" either, it's a mainstream card that is comparable to the 9800GTX which is basically a 55nm version of the 8800GTS with a faster core and memory clock.
tastegw
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i have to agree with this and so do the 3dmark scores
if you wanted to go big, get a gtx 280 or a 4870x2
GTX is not the same as GTS, number one, and number two, yes the 9800GTX is a faster card... and the 4850 is a good card for the money, definitely better than the 8800 GTS.
And it IS old school.. The 9xxx and 2xx has come out since.. Get with the times man..
Why recommend something that's already an underachiever, out of date and won't give him any long term return on his investment? That's the same crappy kind of advice that keeps Newegg and Bestbuy in business....
mmmm.. I'm loving my Asus GTX280.. Absolutely insane card.. love it, love it, love it.
I have a BFG 9800GTX + OC in my clunker, and it's a great card too. For only $167 CAD (that's what I paid for it), it will simply destroy that 8800 GTS for bang for the buck.
Oh.. and nobody cares about 3dmark.. Nobody plays 3dmark. We play Crysis, Fallout 3 and Call of Duty. 3dmark, save to compare absolutely identical rigs to find out how your upgrade treated you, is absolutely useless.
Mind you, it makes for a great tech demo when we sell computers.
tastegw
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oldschool would be a voodoo card or a gforce 5200
8800 series isnt that old, they were the best cards out this time last year.
the 9800 series are revamped 8800's, thus yes they are better, but we are not talkin about being 25% or above better.
the 4850 specs at a glance
sp's: 800 (but these are not clocked like nvidia's sp's)
256 bus
512 or 1gb memory gddr3
core clock 625 stock
8800gt
sp's: 112
256 bus
512mb memory gddr3
core clock 600 stock
8800gts (g90)
sp's: 128
256 bus
512mb memory gddr3
core clock 650 stock
9800gt
sp's: 112
256 bus
512mb memory gddr3
core clock 600 stock
9800gtx+
sp's: 128
256 bus
512 or 1gb memory gddr3
core clock 738
yes the 9800gtx+ is the better card of the 5, but as you can see, it is not blowing the others away, nor is the 4850 blowing away the other g90's by nvidia
8800 series isnt that old, they were the best cards out this time last year.
the 9800 series are revamped 8800's, thus yes they are better, but we are not talkin about being 25% or above better.
the 4850 specs at a glance
sp's: 800 (but these are not clocked like nvidia's sp's)
256 bus
512 or 1gb memory gddr3
core clock 625 stock
8800gt
sp's: 112
256 bus
512mb memory gddr3
core clock 600 stock
8800gts (g90)
sp's: 128
256 bus
512mb memory gddr3
core clock 650 stock
9800gt
sp's: 112
256 bus
512mb memory gddr3
core clock 600 stock
9800gtx+
sp's: 128
256 bus
512 or 1gb memory gddr3
core clock 738
yes the 9800gtx+ is the better card of the 5, but as you can see, it is not blowing the others away, nor is the 4850 blowing away the other g90's by nvidia
EXCellR8
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mmmm.. I'm loving my Asus GTX280.. Absolutely insane card.. love it, love it, love it.
I have a BFG 9800GTX + OC in my clunker, and it's a great card too. For only $167 CAD (that's what I paid for it), it will simply destroy that 8800 GTS for bang for the buck.
Oh.. and nobody cares about 3dmark.. Nobody plays 3dmark. We play Crysis, Fallout 3 and Call of Duty. 3dmark, save to compare absolutely identical rigs to find out how your upgrade treated you, is absolutely useless.
Mind you, it makes for a great tech demo when we sell computers.
There are zero things special about the 9000 series release by nVidia; 55nm is only marginally better than the 8000 series 65nm dies. The point I'm bringing to the table is that a 8800GTS can be obtained for less money than a HD4850. Both cards will run the games Z listed in his first post just fine. I'm fully aware that the 4850 is the better card but there's no sense in buying one if he doesn't have the money. Get with the times? I don't know what planet you're living on but here on earth there doesn't exist any computer hardware that carries "any long term investment advantages." Technology is obsoleted daily and you can never be ahead of the curve. You're a Best Buy technician aren't you?
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3341&p=13
In the higher resolutions, the 4850 pulls ahead rather handily. It's a really good value for the money.
*sigh*
In the higher resolutions, the 4850 pulls ahead rather handily. It's a really good value for the money.
*sigh*
Compare the pricing:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121272
vs.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133254
$10 difference.. And that Asus is a good card.
And no, I own my own computer business actually... It's rather fun earning a living dispelling myths and bad advice. I love my job.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121272
vs.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133254
$10 difference.. And that Asus is a good card.
And no, I own my own computer business actually... It's rather fun earning a living dispelling myths and bad advice.
I love my job. That link from Anandtech will tell the whole story, over a range of games.. and the difference across the board is more than .1. A fair bit more.
For $10, what's the sense in promoting old tech? The 4850 will give him a much greater return on his investment.. Is it a jealousy thing or something? I don't get it. I always recommend what will give someone the best return on their investment, and a card that's 3 gens old just isn't it.
tastegw
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you came in here saying the 4850 would blow the doors off the other recommended cards.
the 4850 isnt really new either, like the other cards mentioned.
you fail to realize his budget and what he can spend.
i was going to recomend a gtx 260, but it seemed like too much of a reach for him so i didnt. you can get these for as little as 200 or less if you shop around.
but here is a 4850 that is 150 shipped from newegg
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121272
since you insist on pushing it
but this 8800gts is cheaper
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133254
the 4850 isnt really new either, like the other cards mentioned.
you fail to realize his budget and what he can spend.
i was going to recomend a gtx 260, but it seemed like too much of a reach for him so i didnt. you can get these for as little as 200 or less if you shop around.
but here is a 4850 that is 150 shipped from newegg
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121272
since you insist on pushing it
but this 8800gts is cheaper
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133254
The GTX260 is a great card too. I really liked it, although the GTX280 really stomps on it. For $600 CAD it's a really wicked card. Only reason I bought it, too be honest, is because someone REALLY wanted my GTX260 and my suppliers were out of stock. They wanted it REAL bad.
In my last post I compared the Asus 4850 to the PNY 8800GTS.. And pointed out the $10 difference. For $10... and a really good brand.. Like.. Seriously.
In my last post I compared the Asus 4850 to the PNY 8800GTS.. And pointed out the $10 difference. For $10... and a really good brand.. Like.. Seriously.
tastegw
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i agree about the 280, i have one myself
it does blow away all the other cards recommended in this thread.
got my brand new for $333 shipped, that was a good bang for the buck.
God yeah. What an awesome deal!!! I bought mine wholesale from Supercom, and it was a fair bit more than that. Wow! Gimme!!! lol
Mine is an Asus and they've tweaked it a little bit. Enough to justify how much more I paid for it than you? Probably not. *sigh*. Still.. Crysis.. 1680x1050, maxed, on a 37" Aquos. It's a thing of beauty *sniff*. I spent all day during a brutal snow storm blowing the crap out of everything in sight. I couldn't pull myself away..
Anyways, hopefully I didn't come across like too much of a meanie fart... To me, return on investment should always factor in heavily on recommendations.. It's just the way I do business.
Mine is an Asus and they've tweaked it a little bit. Enough to justify how much more I paid for it than you? Probably not. *sigh*. Still.. Crysis.. 1680x1050, maxed, on a 37" Aquos. It's a thing of beauty *sniff*. I spent all day during a brutal snow storm blowing the crap out of everything in sight. I couldn't pull myself away..
Anyways, hopefully I didn't come across like too much of a meanie fart... To me, return on investment should always factor in heavily on recommendations.. It's just the way I do business.
tastegw
Posts: 185 +0
God yeah. What an awesome deal!!! I bought mine wholesale from Supercom, and it was a fair bit more than that. Wow! Gimme!!! lol
Mine is an Asus and they've tweaked it a little bit. Enough to justify how much more I paid for it than you? Probably not. *sigh*. Still.. Crysis.. 1680x1050, maxed, on a 37" Aquos. It's a thing of beauty *sniff*. I spent all day during a brutal snow storm blowing the crap out of everything in sight. I couldn't pull myself away..
Anyways, hopefully I didn't come across like too much of a meanie fart... To me, return on investment should always factor in heavily on recommendations.. It's just the way I do business.
i got lucky getting mine,
seller on ebay had it $370 to start + free shipping, seemed i was the only bidder
+ ebay was running a special, 10% off any purchase.
so i ended up gettting it for $333
saved $116 compaired to the same card on newegg at the time.
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