Can anyone on this planet Earth test new 3900X / 3700X @4.3GHz or any max achievable vs 8700K / 9900K @4.9-5GHz (I.e. what people realistically use)? Because I've never seen any single person using 8700K / 9900K @4GHz.
They already did that last week (linked in the
very first phrase of the
very first sentence of this article).
The reason they needed to do this article, however, is because people consistently misinterpret IPC when trying to compare AMD & Intel CPUs anymore. The original (& standard) reviews for new CPUs, to use the car analogy, are testing to see whether a brand-new Ford Mustang (4-cylinder, V6 & both V8 models), Chevrolet Camaro (V6 & V8 models), Chevrolet Corvette (turbocharged & non-turbocharged models), Dodge Challenger (V6 & V8 models), & Dodge Charger (V6 & V8 models) is not only the absolute fastest car but also the fastest to go from 0-60MPH.
This review, on the other hand, says, "OK, we're going to put a horsepower limiter on each of these cars so that they have the same maximum horsepower, & see which one has the best performance across a fairly even playing field" -- & note, while I'm not a huge gearhead, even I know there's a significant difference in max horsepower on those different engine options for those cars.
Since apparently people have trouble reading & interpreting the charts as well, here's a normalized (Normalized results means the i9-9900K's performance = 100%, written as 100.00, looking at the 1% Low/Average FPS for all CPUs, all at 1080p resolution):
Battlefield V
-- 1700X: 83.04/84.375
-- 2700X: 83.93/86.25 [1%/2% improvement over 1700X]
-- 3700X: 91.96/93.125 [10%/8% improvement over 2700X, 11%/10% improvement over 1700X]
-- 3900X: 91.96/97.5 [10%/13% improvement over 2700X, 11%/16% improvement over 1700X]
-- 9900K: 100/100
Far Cry New Dawn
-- 1700X: 77.17/75.42
-- 2700X: 80.43/78.81 [4%/4% improvement over 1700X]
-- 3700X: 91.30/91.53 [13%/16% improvement over 2700X, 18%/21% improvement over 1700X]
-- 3900X: 91.30/94.92 [13%/20% improvement over 2700X, 18%/25% improvement over 1700X]
-- 9900K: 100/100
Total War: Three Kingdoms
-- 1700X: 88.07/94.53
-- 2700X: 89.91/95.31 [2%/1% improvement over 1700X]
-- 3700X: 94.50/96.09 [5%/1% improvement over 2700X, 7%/2% improvement over 1700X]
-- 3900X: 97.25/97.66 [8%/3% improvement over 2700X, 10%/3% improvement over 1700X]
-- 9900K: 100/100
World War Z
-- 1700X: 89.61/84.36
-- 2700X: 91.56/86.73 [2%/3% improvement over 1700X]
-- 3700X: 96.10/94.79 [5%/9% improvement over 2700X, 7%/12% improvement over 1700X]
-- 3900X: 100/98.58 [9%/14% improvement over 2700X, 12%/17% improvement over 1700X]
-- 9900K: 100/100
World of Tanks
-- 1700X: 90.40/86.12
-- 2700X: 92.93/87.90 [3%/2% improvement over 1700X]
-- 3700X: 100.00/96.09 [%/% improvement over 2700X, 11%/12% improvement over 1700X]
-- 3900X: 103.54/99.64 [%/% improvement over 2700X, 14%/16% improvement over 1700X]
-- 9900K: 100/100
Rainbow Six Siege
-- 1700X: 93.26/88.45
-- 2700X: 95.34/90.44 [2%/2% improvement over 1700X]
-- 3700X: 97.41/92.83 [8%/9% improvement over 2700X, 4%/5% improvement over 1700X]
-- 3900X: 98.96/94.82 [11%/13% improvement over 2700X, 6%/7% improvement over 1700X]
-- 9900K: 100/100
And although they didn't include one, here's the overall average
6-game Average
-- 1700X: 88.23/85.90
-- 2700X: 90.33/87.90 [2%/2% improvement over 1700X]
-- 3700X: 96.04/94.26 [6%/7% improvement over 2700X, 9%/10% improvement over 1700X]
-- 3900X: 98.25/97.39 [9%/11% improvement over 2700X, 11%/13% improvement over 1700X]
-- 9900K: 100/100
Yes, you're reading that right: using the 6 games they tested here, 3rd-gen Ryzen made double-digit percentage improvements over the original Ryzen CPUs, to the point that they pull within a few percentage points (roughly 5% or less) of the 9900K's performance, when everyone is operating at the same frequency (3% or less in the case of the 3900X). When was the last time you heard of an AMD chip having that close of an IPC result to an Intel CPU of the same generation? As for overclocking...again, unless it's going to be "everyone is overclocked to the same frequency", that's not what this article is looking at.
The TL
R results: 1st-gen Ryzen was 12-15% slower than the i9-9900K, 2nd-gen improved slightly but was still 10-13% slower; 3rd-gen Ryzen, however, has pulled within 5% or less of the i9-9900K's performance. And for 95% of the gamers out there, that's going to be "more than good enough".