a little help needed

By tar81
Dec 22, 2006
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  1. i was browsing this site before signing up for it that being said now i lost the thread about putting an old hard drive into a new computer. I have never done that and notice the person stated make the jumper to the old hard drive the slave drive just where is that located I just got an emachine
  2. Grafficks

    Grafficks Newcomer, in training Posts: 454

    Since you have an emachine, read this first:
    http://www.techspot.com/vb/topic62782.html

    Adding another hard drive is very easy. I am supposing that your hard drives are not SATA, so you need to set jumper settings. Jumpers are pins on the back of devices like hard drives and optical drives. They consist of pins and an object that you move to cover a select few pins, creating either a master or slave configuration in the end. It will label which pins to cover on the jumpers to set either master or slave.


    Devices are dubbed Master and Slave when two devices are connected on one IDE channel. Your boot hard drive (with operating system) should be set as master on the primary IDE channel. You can set your additional hard drive as slave on the same IDE channel.

    Installing an additional hard drive should be easy. Just open up the case, mount the hard drive, plug in the IDE cable, plug in the power cable, and use a set of pliers to set the jumper on the back as Slave. Then boot up and it should be detected as another drive.

    Good luck :)
  3. tar81

    tar81 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

    thank you i will summon the courage to try to do this

    i am really a novice when it comes to this what the heck doesthe hard drive look like and where about can it be found I HAVE INSTALL PLENTY of plug and play not this
  4. GeekieNick101

    GeekieNick101 Newcomer, in training Posts: 524

    Ok a hard drive looks like this http://www.nuggetlab.com/comptia_files/equipment/hd_Top view of IDE hard drive.jpg and it goes it either the ide and sata port the ide port looks like this http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASRock/775XFire-eSATA2/images/pata.jpg its the blue port it may be blue, white or black now it goes into the hard drive through a ide or sata cable and the end plugs into the device and it will have another plug called slave and it looks like this http://www.eutronix.com/IDE_cable2.jpg note the 2nd plug and that plugs into the hard drive then your going to need to find another plug that is for power that comes from your power supply and it will look the same a the one pluged into your 1st hard drive and then you will need to place the hard drive in the hard drive caddy on top or below your current hard drive but yes you keep the other hard drive in there as well so you will have 2.
  5. tar81

    tar81 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

    duh

    ok i found the hard drive I plugged it in and turned the computer on and it did not find either what am i doing wrong??
  6. Grafficks

    Grafficks Newcomer, in training Posts: 454

    What exactly happens when you turn the computer on? How did you draw the conclusion that it did not detect either hard drive?

    When you plugged in the second hard drive, did you set the jumpers to slave?

    Did you plug in two different connectors to the back of the hard drive: a power connector (from the power supply unit) and an IDE connector (from the same flat ribbion cable of your first hard drive)?


    Give us more details and info, and keep us posted. :)
  7. tar81

    tar81 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

    i don't know how to set the jumpers i just plugged it to the same plug the emachine drive is on?
  8. N3051M

    N3051M Newcomer, in training Posts: 2,800

    How to install an ATA HDD: http://www.seagate.com/support/kb/disc/howto/ata_install_tshoot.html

    How to install a SATA HDD: http://www.seagate.com/support/kb/disc/howto/sata_install_tshoot.html

    Mind you, these jumper settings for the ATA (aka IDE) are native to Seagate brand HDDs, so if your's is maxtor etc, look on the sticker on the top of the HDD to see what pins need to be crossed and other info. Otherwise, installation instructions as per normal..

    If this is just expanding storage, plug one end of the IDE cable to the new HDD, the second onto your OS/normal/existing HDD and the third (end) onto the motherboard. With the new HDD, set the jumper onto Slave setting, and the existing HDD to Master setting, if not already done so..

    If its replacing, unplug the old HDD and plug your new one in its place, making sure jumper is on Master. Install windows xp or your OS as per normal.

    SATA HDDs are most of the time plug and play.
  9. tar81

    tar81 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

    i appreciated all your help however I am clueless or I don't have the nerve I don't want to screw up my new machine
  10. Tmagic650

    Tmagic650 TS Ambassador Posts: 20,732   +156

    The drive jumper pins may look like this:
    http://www.seagate.com/support/disc/ata/st340016a.html

    Some drives have a picture of this jumper block on the top lable of the drive
  11. tar81

    tar81 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

    wheredo you ge tht e things to block the pins?
     
  12. Tmagic650

    Tmagic650 TS Ambassador Posts: 20,732   +156

    There should be one or more jumpers already on some of the pin locations. If there are none, take your computer to a computer expert friend or shop and have them install the second drive for you. It just takes a few minutes to do
  13. tar81

    tar81 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

    thank you kindly I am waiting for my best friend's son to call me you know how kids are... thank you all very very much and Merry Chrismtas!
  14. tar81

    tar81 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

    I do feel bad I looked and looked @those little plugs was afrid to do danything w/them for fear of doing something wrong to the hard drives after seeing my freind's son work on it I can now do it!!
    angain Thank you all for giving me the tools to do what I was afraid to do Merry Christmas and the best of the new year
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