A new PC

By Dogmeat
Apr 6, 2008
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  1. Hi all.

    I'm looking into building a new system and I wanted some remarks on what you think of what I want to build. Currently I'v got the following in my shopping cart:

    Raidmax Sagittarius Gaming Chassis
    seagate barracuda 7200.10 st3250310as , 250gb, s-ata2 , 7200rpm,
    zalman ZM750-HP : 750w ( 12v : 720w ) , with EPS12V support + hea
    Corsair 2x1Gb DDRII 800 kit - TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX - XMS2
    Scythe Infinity CPU Cooler
    LG GH20LS10 , 20x , Lightscribe , Sata , black+beige bezel
    Samsung 2232GW 22" Widescreen LCD
    Intel Core2 Quadro Q9300 - quad core 2.5ghz box cpu
    ASUS P5N-Delux : with EPU ( Energy Processing Unit )
    Point of View 9800 GX2 1gb


    I'm a little concerned about the motherboard. n750i chip with a 9800 GX2. What do you guys think?
  2. Tedster

    Tedster Techspot old timer..... Posts: 10,074   +13

    I don't see any issues. What's your concern?
  3. Dogmeat

    Dogmeat Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

    I was worried about bottle necking.

    I'v done a bit of research though and I think that the 9800 GTX is a better option. Price vs Performance wise most reviews are very praising of it. Theres a massive saving and to be honest, bar Crysis, better performance per price.
  4. fullmetalvegan

    fullmetalvegan TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 162

    The chipset really has nothing to do with the 9800 GX2 if you're not intending to SLI it. Even then, it's better than the older 6 series nForce chipsets so I don't see how you think you're bottlenecking it.

    I consider all the 9 series a waste of money at present, bar the 9600 GT. The 8800 GTS in single/SLI is still equal/better at most things than the 9800 GTX or GX2. So why bother when the 8800 GTS is cheaper.

    I haven't seen many reviews that praise the 9800 GTX yet, it's a very big letdown. =S The old 8800 GTX beats it at certain things, the price is okay enough, but it's not deserving of the GTX title. Still not something I'd spend my money on, when the 8800 GTS is like 5-10 FPS off the 9800 GTX... and cheaper.

    So for price vs performance... unless you're planning to play your games at 1980 resolution... then the 8800 GTS is the best buy on the market at present, especially when in SLI.
  5. Dogmeat

    Dogmeat Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

    Interesting information. Thank you.
  6. Matthew

    Matthew TechSpot Staff Posts: 6,051   +84 Staff Member

  7. X1950XT

    X1950XT Newcomer, in training Posts: 81

  8. Tedster

    Tedster Techspot old timer..... Posts: 10,074   +13

    go to tomshardware.com and read their comparison charts for video cards. (performance vs. $)
  9. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,581   +863

    This Link: http://www.techreport.com/articles.x/14230 (provided by kpo6969 in another thread) suggests that 512MB of RAM in the 8800GT cards is the sweet spot and lower amounts drastically drop performance.

    I believe EVGA will allow more than 1 rebate per household, so the $114.00 price will hold for 2. However, I don't have any idea how much
    SLI would offset the lower (320MB) of RAM in those cards.
  10. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,282   +24

    Agreed, but a single 9800GX2 does not require an SLI-compliant motherboard, nor are the issues that plague SLI present in the single-card solution. Furthermore, pairing it with an NVIDIA chipset will allow you to also use the Hybrid Power feature of the card, that will conserve power when running 2D applications and watching videos.

    Some contradiction there. SLI will show massive performance gains at higher resolutions, so unless you have a monitor capable of running resolutions above 1600x1200, SLI is a waste. 512MB is a minimum on a high-end video card since it provides very smooth performance in games like Oblivion that process a ton of textures at a time compared to their 256MB variants.

    That's not the G92 version of the 8800GTS being referred to in the thread. It's the old G80 version.
  11. X1950XT

    X1950XT Newcomer, in training Posts: 81


    Still worth it for 114$!!
     
  12. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] Hello, nice to meet you! Posts: 4,353   +122

    Probablt, but don't count on mail in rebates too much.
    they sometimes get "lost" and make sure that you send them asap. some have some short time frames.

    If you buying an after market cooler, buy the OEM version of the Q9300. The boxed just comes with the almost useless stock cooler.

    9800 GX2 is not that good of a deal. At nearly $600 dollars, its not quite worth it, however, it is the most powerfull GPU, i gues unless your going to REALLY SLI, you don't have that many options.

    Also i think that you ram needs to match your procesor FSB really, it does matter!
  13. Matthew

    Matthew TechSpot Staff Posts: 6,051   +84 Staff Member

    Maybe I'm missing something but where can you buy DDR2 1333MHz RAM?
  14. X1950XT

    X1950XT Newcomer, in training Posts: 81

    The highest RAM frequency speed for the DDR2 that i know of is 1200MHZ

    I'm guessing you would have to go DDR3 if you want the 1333MHZ but right now it's not worth it. I seen some reviews that show that theres no diff between DDR2 1066MHZ and DDR3 1333MHZ mostly because the timings on DDR3 are huuuge.
  15. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] Hello, nice to meet you! Posts: 4,353   +122

    Yeah you neeed DDR3 i know of 1250....ddr2

    anyway the times arn't aht bad. ive seen $90 dollars per gig on cas latency 6 DDR3 ram as farr as i know Cas latency for ddr2 is 5ish. 6 isnt bad, especially if it helps match you ram with your FSB

    oh yeah i remeber its an OCZ reaper, its out of stock at newegg currently.

    EDIT:
    nvm, i just got a notification. its back here the link
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=20-227-292
  16. X1950XT

    X1950XT Newcomer, in training Posts: 81

    The best timings on DDR3 1333MHZ are in the OCZ Premium memory, they are 7-7-7-20

    Anyways, i hear that we will see DDR4 in 2010-2011 timeframe.
  17. Matthew

    Matthew TechSpot Staff Posts: 6,051   +84 Staff Member

    Yes, I'm fully aware DDR2 1333MHz is not available, and hence my question to hellokitty[hk]'s comment about running a CPU with the FSB of 1333MHz 1:1 with RAM.
  18. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] Hello, nice to meet you! Posts: 4,353   +122


    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=20-227-292
    did you not see this?!?!!

    apparently ocz has gotten it down to 6-6-6-18 (I think those timings are correct but i just made them up over the fact that the cas latency is 6)

    useing DDR3 ram does require a more expensive motherboard in most cases.
    you could just try using a q6600. But i can understand that you want the q9300. are you going to overclock? the q6600 i heard overclockes much better.

    EDIT

    i heard that intel nehalem will be supporting triple channel ram...

    .........i just found ddr3 1600 with cas latencies of 6.............
    hmm i just found some 1333 that has timings of 6-5-5-18
    Really, the DDR3 timings are not that bad.


    oh right just wondering about neweggs catagory thing.
    there is a 1333 pc10600 and a 1333 pc10666. whats with that?? their used to be a 1333 pc10700 but their was only one product under it and its gone i think. (both the product (a-data ddr3 1333 pc3-107000) and the catagory)
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