Adobe Creative Suite becomes subscription-only, kills Fireworks

By Rick
May 6, 2013
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  1. It was Adobe; in the billiard room, with the candlestick... In a single blow, the software-maker dispatched new sales of "perpetual" Creative Suite licenses and announced the languishing demise of Fireworks. The company today said it will no longer sell Creative Suite...

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  2. St1ckM4n

    St1ckM4n TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 3,386   +608

    Double that for Australia. Servers cost more here, or something.
  3. Julio Franco

    Julio Franco TechSpot Editor Posts: 6,510   +308

    Too bad that Fireworks is gone (or receiving no more features, and relevant updates which is the same) it was my all-time favorite image editing software.
    dennis777 and psycros like this.
  4. BlueDrake

    BlueDrake TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 190   +41

    I honestly hope they don't really, because you already suffer enough. Just they make excuses for anything, distance arguments with online pricing is absurd. If you're actually shipping it to someone's door, or an actual store then 'maybe' it's logical.

    Just extremely sad, for everyone down there with the prices. Online distributions costing more, such as Steam, etc has no standing excuse for price hikes.
    psycros and St1ckM4n like this.
  5. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TechSpot Paladin Posts: 5,775   +1,429

    Gone are the days of temptation to purchase their software.

    Good luck adobe as you migrate away form the "Average Joe" like myself.
    m4a4, psycros and Darkshadoe like this.
  6. PCNP543

    PCNP543 Newcomer, in training

    Wow, I'm so glad I bought CS6 Master collection last year. Yea, it was a chunk of money, but I'll have access to the applications almost indefinitely (until they're not supported on whatever version of Windows is around in 15+ years). I just don't like the idea of all the content I create being essentially locked as soon as I stop a subscription to a suite of programs. In other words, I'd need to pay a subscription just to maintain access to work I've created with a particular program.

    At least when I'm finally forced into a subscription, I'll have CS 6 to fall back on if I decide not to maintain the endless access fees.
    Lurker101 and psycros like this.
  7. JC713

    JC713 TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 6,730   +874

    This is good for casual users, but bad for power users. I guess it helps to eliminate fragmentation and promote newer, more feature-filled, and better performing software. I wish they could have killed Flash and Flash Catalyst instead of Fireworks. The good thing about this is less piracy and more money in their pockets.
  8. As an event phtographer, I see problems with subscription services. I've already switched to other software (Darkroom, Corel).
    bryan19kc and psycros like this.
  9. bryan19kc

    bryan19kc Newcomer, in training

    Considering that I'm only an occasional user of Photoshop and Dreamweaver, Adobe has lost my business. I will use my older versions until they are not supported by Windows. Currently, my older versions work fine on Windows 8 and after that. I'm done with Adobe.
  10. m4a4

    m4a4 TechSpot Addict Posts: 508   +134

    "We want more control to get more money" is all I could see while reading that. They hope that moving to the cloud will force people to buy their expensive software instead of pirate it (as the cloud will undoubtedly complicate things).
    It's a good thing that I don't personally care to have the latest and greatest of the adobe suite...
  11. Tekkaraiden

    Tekkaraiden TechSpot Maniac Posts: 893   +52

    I can't image the average joe paying $1200 (or $700 for the upgrade) so I don't understand your argument.
     
  12. Bye Adobe, welcome The Gimp.
  13. Arionic

    Arionic Newcomer, in training

    There will be a crack or patch released that will eventually halt contact with the cloud or create a fake connection for the program to connect to for authentication. This in no way will stop pirating. Any offline version will most likely arise.

    Greed is pathetic.
  14. spydercanopus

    spydercanopus TechSpot Guru Posts: 802   +87

    Adobe needs a tablet oriented version of Photoshop.
  15. Ranger12

    Ranger12 TechSpot Guru Posts: 630   +116

    If by "greed" you mean stealing products from companies and employees who invest millions of dollars and thousands of man-hours into making their product, then yes, that is pathetic.
    Hopefully I just misunderstood your post and you don't actually think that greed is expecting someone to pay for the product they use.
  16. TS-56336

    TS-56336 TechSpot Booster Posts: 571   +98

    Glad I am using Corel although they won't be far behind no doubt.

    So those of us who don't need to upgrade every version are screwed. Lets hope it comes back to bite them on the arse.
  17. St1ckM4n

    St1ckM4n TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 3,386   +608

    It's already here, and getting better.
  18. Tutac

    Tutac Newcomer, in training

    They could at least make the photoshop elements stay the way it was. (It costs only about 100$!!) I mean common, as a student do I really have to be constantly online when I want to work on a picture or two now and then ??
  19. WillemVanVliet

    WillemVanVliet Newcomer, in training

    I think it is a mistake, at least when piracy is one of the concerns.

    The Adobe Suite, like most many other professional creative software, is build on the fact that it is massively pirated.
    If the vast amount of teenagers and students didn't pirate and use Photoshop for example, I doubt it would have went to be the worlds most use image processing program.
    Rarely newcomers to the design market would be able to state any of the CS programs on their portfolio.

    I'm working at a small startup studio that develops games for Android and iOS.
    I wouldn't be here if I wouldn't be able to learn to use Adobe software (Autodesk the same) since I was about 12.

    I'm quite sure this counts for most people who use it professionally (and legal) today.

    However, the more used the software is, the less likely the maker can prevent piracy of it.
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  20. MDSchneider

    MDSchneider Newcomer, in training

    Well this is bad news for power users. For people with a focus on using fireworks in conjunction with photoshop or layouting websites and larger UI design projects, www.antetype.com is becoming more and more of an alternative.
  21. dennis777

    dennis777 TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 274   +29

    you got it right sir!
  22. Fireworks is an amazing program.

    If Adobe does cut it, I will never support them again! :mad:
    I'm a Web designer, I NEED Fireworks to make my living!

    Thanks Adobe for sucking EVEN MORE!

    I hope they see these posts a lot of people are unhappy about this news
  23. Good luck with that Adobe ;) It's like being forced to rent your house with no option to buy one whether you can afford it or not. A very poor investment. Great news for adobe's competitors though. (y)
  24. mailpup

    mailpup TS Special Forces Posts: 8,392   +205

    Instead of just hoping Adobe will see it, you could email them, express your opinion and perhaps link them to it. Just a thought.
  25. Just another example of what the Cloud is all about. Total control over the customer and perpetual payment or else! This is the future!!

    Here's a good example of just how backward this concept is for the consumer. I installed Office Home and Business 2013 for a client last week. In the old days, he would have purchased an installation disc, popped it in the drive and within 10-15 minutes max would have been up and running.

    Instead, the man paid for a box of fresh air online. It got delivered to his home. I then had to create a Microsoft account for him before I could "download" the software (so now he is no longer anonymous to Microsoft). I was the "allowed" to download the software. After 10 minutes, it became blatantly obvious that his less than 2Mbps Internet speed was going to hold up the proceedings!

    I explained that I had another job to go to and would leave it downloading. I returned 2.5 hours later and the damned thing was still sorting itself out!

    So to sum up:
    The "software" was purchased via a distributor but the client had to go back to Microsoft to download. Where's the logic?

    Production costs minus disc must have been halved but the price of office has risen, Why?
    You can no longer be anonymous when purchasing software!
    The install took over 4 hours!
    The client could buy a "back up" disc and pay extra! What?

    I am horrified with the way the software market is heading. Is anyone else?

    These corporations are laughing at us! Some form of legislation needs to be introduced with regards to cloud computing and fast. The vendor is calling all the shots and "ownership" of products seems to be very questionable.

    This is the future? The future is changeable so let's change it before we get completely stuck in this mire!!
    kuroiei and Wendig0 like this.


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