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all games crashing after 2 mins

By Revton
Nov 29, 2003
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  1. Hello.
    I bought a new computer and I can't get any game to run for more than 2 minutes. All games tested are freezing up, crashing to desktop or rebooting my system.

    All my drivers and patches are up to date and there is no dust inside. All fans are running as well.

    I have a 300w power supply but I am unable to give you further info as the case is covering the brand name

    There's 2 sticks of DDR333 PC2700 512MB AZEN RAM.
    The motherboard is a Soyo SY-PX400 Dragon Ultra Platinum.

    Games tested include Everquest(all patches and expansions enabled), IGI-2 covert strike and Elder scrolls III Morrowmind.

    I've run out of troubleshooting options. At this point I'm completely clueless.

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    System Information
    ------------------
    Time of this report: 11/29/2003, 15:17:50
    Machine name: bla
    Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 1 (2600.xpsp2.030422-1633)
    Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
    System Manufacturer: VIA Technologies, Inc.
    System Model: P4X400-8235
    BIOS: )Phoenix - Award WorkstationBIOS v6.00PG
    Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz
    Memory: 1024MB RAM
    Page File: 137MB used, 2324MB available
    Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
    DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0b (4.09.0000.0902)
    DX Setup Parameters: Not found
    DxDiag Version: 5.03.0001.0902 32bit Unicode

    ------------
    DxDiag Notes
    ------------
    DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
    Display Tab 1: No problems found.
    Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
    Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
    Music Tab: No problems found.
    Input Tab: No problems found.
    Network Tab: No problems found.

    --------------------
    DirectX Debug Levels
    --------------------
    Direct3D: 0/4 (n/a)
    DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
    DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
    DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
    DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
    DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
    DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

    ---------------
    Display Devices
    ---------------
    Card name: NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200 with AGP8X
    Manufacturer: NVIDIA
    Chip type: GeForce4 Ti 4200 with AGP8X
    DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
    Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0281&SUBSYS_807B1043&REV_A1
    Display Memory: 128.0 MB
    Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (85Hz)
    Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
    Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
    Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
    Driver Version: 6.14.0010.5270 (English)
    DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
    Driver Attributes: Final Retail
    Driver Date/Size: 10/24/2003 02:20:00, 3774208 bytes
    WHQL Logo'd: n/a
    WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
    VDD: n/a
    Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys
    Mini VDD Date: 10/24/2003 02:20:00, 1620762 bytes
    Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-41C1-11CF-6567-71A000C2CB35}
    Vendor ID: 0x10DE
    Device ID: 0x0281
    SubSys ID: 0x807B1043
    Revision ID: 0x00A1
    Revision ID: 0x00A1
    Video Accel:
    Deinterlace Caps: n/a
    Registry: OK
    DDraw Status: Enabled
    D3D Status: Enabled
    AGP Status: Not Available
    DDraw Test Result: Not run
    D3D7 Test Result: Not run
    D3D8 Test Result: Not run
    D3D9 Test Result: Not run

    -------------
    Sound Devices
    -------------
    Description: SB Live! Audio [D000]
    Default Sound Playback: Yes
    Default Voice Playback: Yes
    Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_80651102&REV_0A
    Manufacturer ID: 1
    Product ID: 100
    Type: WDM
    Driver Name: ctaud2k.sys
    Driver Version: 5.12.0001.0252 (English)
    Driver Attributes: Final Retail
    WHQL Logo'd: n/a
    Date and Size: 7/18/2002 21:47:52, 837548 bytes
    Other Files:
    Driver Provider: Creative
    HW Accel Level: Full
    Cap Flags: 0x0
    Min/Max Sample Rate: 0, 0
    Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 0, 0
    Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
    HW Memory: 0
    Voice Management: Yes
    EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
    I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
    Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
    Registry: OK
    Sound Test Result: Not run

    Description: C-Media Wave Device
    Default Sound Playback: No
    Default Voice Playback: No
    Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_13F6&DEV_0111&SUBSYS_A40710FD&REV_10
    Manufacturer ID: 1
    Product ID: 100
    Type: WDM
    Driver Name: cmaudio.sys
    Driver Version: 5.12.0001.0643 (English)
    Driver Attributes: Final Debug
    WHQL Logo'd: n/a
    Date and Size: 11/18/2002 15:51:40, 377358 bytes
    Other Files:
    Driver Provider: C-Media
    HW Accel Level: Full
    Cap Flags: 0x0
    Min/Max Sample Rate: 0, 0
    Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 0, 0
    Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
    HW Memory: 0
    Voice Management: No
    EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
    I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
    Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): Yes
    Registry: OK
    Sound Test Result: Not run

    ---------------------
    Sound Capture Devices
    ---------------------
    Description: SB Live! Audio [D000]
    Default Sound Capture: Yes
    Default Voice Capture: Yes
    Driver Name: ctaud2k.sys
    Driver Version: 5.12.0001.0252 (English)
    Driver Attributes: Final Retail
    Date and Size: 7/18/2002 21:47:52, 837548 bytes
    Cap Flags: 0x0
    Format Flags: 0x0

    Description: C-Media Wave Device
    Default Sound Capture: No
    Default Voice Capture: No
    Driver Name: cmaudio.sys
    Driver Version: 5.12.0001.0643 (English)
    Driver Attributes: Final Debug
    Date and Size: 11/18/2002 15:51:40, 377358 bytes
    Cap Flags: 0x0
    Format Flags: 0x0

    -----------
    DirectMusic
    -----------
    DLS Path: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\drivers\GM.DLS
    DLS Version: 1.00.0016.0002
    Acceleration: Enabled
    Ports: SB Live! DirectMusic Synthesizer [D000], Hardware (Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal, Default Port
    SB Live! Audio [D000], Software (Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal
    MPU-401, Hardware (Kernel Mode), Input, No DLS, External
    MPU-401, Hardware (Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, External
    C-Media Wave Device, Software (Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal
    Microsoft MIDI Mapper [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
    SB Live! Synth A [D000] [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
    SB Live! Sw Synth [D000] [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
    SB Live! Synth B [D000] [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
    SB Live! MIDI Port [D000] [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, External
    Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synth [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
    MPU-401 [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, External
    SB Live! MIDI Port [D000] [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Input, No DLS, External
    MPU-401 [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Input, No DLS, External
    Microsoft Synthesizer, Software (Not Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal
    Registry: OK
    Test Result: Not run

    -------------------
    DirectInput Devices
    -------------------
    Device Name: Mouse
    Attached: 1
    Controller ID: n/a
    Vendor/Product ID: n/a
    FF Driver: n/a

    Device Name: Keyboard
    Attached: 1
    Controller ID: n/a
    Vendor/Product ID: n/a
    FF Driver: n/a

    Poll w/ Interrupt: No
    Registry: OK


    DXDIAG cut short....
  2. xtrmn8r

    xtrmn8r TS Rookie Posts: 62

    try rolling back to some older detonator drivers for your graphics card. on some games the 53.xx drivers freeze on my computer for no reason, and im running a gf4 ti4600. thats the first thing i would try.

    alan
  3. bluescreenNoob

    bluescreenNoob TS Rookie Posts: 43

    Check your ram, d/l memtest86 and see if that's the problem.
  4. UncleGemboel

    UncleGemboel TS Rookie Posts: 47

    I have same problem not long ago, the problem is hardware failure, for me is my memory. Try test your hardware especially memory and your HDD for bad sector.
    Or check your CPU temperature, maybe it get too hot, if yes buy a better cooling device.
    Hope helps.
  5. dwaynek

    dwaynek TS Rookie

    i've been having a similar problem with my Nvidia MX440 and Radeon 9800 Pro with my Intel 845G chipset (yes it happens with either card). i've scoured the net and it seems that many people are having this exact problem. the few similarities I've seen in all cases is that they're running DirectX 9.0 and have mostly VIA chipsets. the problem happens to both Nvidia and ATI video cards.

    who is to blame? i don't know yet. but it's not looking like a video card problem anymore. I'm inclined to believe DirectX9 has stirred a hornet's nest and that it failed to ensure compatibilities with the many motherboards and graphic cards out there before releasing it.

    although on 17 Jul 2002, this UK website reported that Microsoft did admit that AMD motherboards were not working well with DirectX8 at the time. (http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=4474)

    the only partial solution I've seen so far is in regards to a certain conflict between VIA chipsets and DirectX9. the person downloaded an experimental driver at:
    http://downloads.viaarena.com/drivers/others/Test_driver1.zip

    ...and apparently it worked for that person.

    there is also another evident problem with VIA chipsets which is the Infinite Loop error. more info is published at:

    http://www.viaarena.com/?PageID=64

    please look into this and see if this may be the issue causing your problem.

    for those with Intel 845G chipsets, there were several benchmark reviews conducted by independent reviewers and it crashed during certain Direct3D tests, but the test results remain inconclusive.
  6. Rick

    Rick TechSpot Staff Posts: 6,304   +52 Staff Member

    There's lots of possibilities, but from my experiences, memory would be the first thing I check.

    When you consider how delicately complex the components of your computer are, it becomes amazing that any of our computers work at all. ;) Tens of thousands of different hardware combinations exist... Memory is still one of those things that is a hit or miss as far as compatiblity is concerned.
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