psycros
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Its funny how the people who are doing all the cancelling, censoring and demonizing are the ones calling people fascists..which is exactly what the Nazis did in the 30's.
Amazon tries to stop The Rings of Power trolls with 3-day review delay
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Its funny how the people who are doing all the cancelling, censoring and demonizing are the ones calling people fascists..which is exactly what the Nazis did in the 30's.
ID10T
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I thought the show was really good, but im not attached to any of the lore or whatever in this series or any other really.
Good characters nice visuals great acting and an interesting story... I mean whats the problem.
Good characters nice visuals great acting and an interesting story... I mean whats the problem.
Hodor
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Don't Look Up is actually a great movie. But it criticizes politicians, and especially the female president, which is why the official (paid) criticists had to give it a bad rating. But the audience gave it a good rating. Which it deserves. Because it's exactly showing the "greatness" of our moronic society, where leaders are morons and thieves, while kids are taught by the media not to care about anything.
Except CO2. Oh, yeah, every teenager should care about CO2 emissions, but not care about really important stuff. Global eedeeots.
Except CO2. Oh, yeah, every teenager should care about CO2 emissions, but not care about really important stuff. Global eedeeots.
Nonsense, people are tired of having original work bought out by big corporates and giving everything a gay/ woke narritive. why do 99% of people have to conform to the 0.5% ? And the only reason for them is to make money
Well that obviously isn't fair either, but irrespective of that, the issues here are toxic fandom, and the viewing of every single artifact of cultural creativity thought the lense of narrow political sentimentality. It's really tiring.
99% of people have far bigger things to worry about.
Endymio
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Belated? By the start of GoT's 7th season, the writers had managed to mold events so that all six major rulers were female, and a full 1/3 of them were lesbians. Meanwhile, with one single exception, every major male character was either castrated, horribly scarred/mutilated, genetically defective, or evil incarnate.
Theinsanegamer
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Maybe, just maybe, if the producers didnt insist on sucking off woke propaganda and just....cast people into roles, nobody would have cared. You know, kinda like games, movies, and TV shows form the 2000s.
The fact that amazon is trying to fight "da trollz" tells me they are very much upset their actions are being called out yet again.
The fact that amazon is trying to fight "da trollz" tells me they are very much upset their actions are being called out yet again.
The problem with "The Rings of Power" is not that they made a black elf, a woman the lead character, or any other attempts at "diversity". The problem is that they use those things to bash people over the head when the story is garbage. Galadriel is another Mary Sue character. Rule number one, you don't make strong female characters by making them physically stronger than any men. That is not how feminine strength works and it immediately is offensive even to many women because it says, look you have to be strong as a man. No, a woman can be strong without being a man. Many stories have strong, but feminine and believable women characters. Galadriel is the main reason the show stinks, but there is also the fact that its not Tolkien and was obviously written by someone more concerned with telling their own story and co-opting the LOTR's world, presumably to profit off the massive fanbase, but too lazy to be true to the lore and try to write a story that at least honored Tolkien's vision. That is a close second to why TROP is terrible. No one cares about skin tone, but people do care when you take a beloved franchise and try to make it a pulpit to preach from.
Ohnooze
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Personally I'm looking forward to seeing it. I don't care that it's not an all white cast or whatever.
That said it's really a two part problem imo.
1. Amazon, Netflix, HBO and so on have gone so over the top on cramming "woke" content into most everything they make. A lot of people are over it...myself included.
2. Hardcore fans. LOTR is close to their harts and it would be almost impossible to make them happy. Similar to Star Wars I think....
To me the woke stuff is the biggest problem with just about everything made these days. They are just trying way too hard to pander to that audience. To me you really ruin the content by bringing these current world social issues into them. It's like Wheel of time....oh man was it over the top with woke crap and imo it hurt the show.
That said it's really a two part problem imo.
1. Amazon, Netflix, HBO and so on have gone so over the top on cramming "woke" content into most everything they make. A lot of people are over it...myself included.
2. Hardcore fans. LOTR is close to their harts and it would be almost impossible to make them happy. Similar to Star Wars I think....
To me the woke stuff is the biggest problem with just about everything made these days. They are just trying way too hard to pander to that audience. To me you really ruin the content by bringing these current world social issues into them. It's like Wheel of time....oh man was it over the top with woke crap and imo it hurt the show.
dirtyferret
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God dammit, I'm a self anointed gate keeper to all things Tolkein and having female lead characters and dark skinned elves and dwarves is an affront to my beliefs in what a fantasy world should look like even if it is coincidentally the same as what most right wing people believe the real world should be like.
This is a strawman. This is not what fans are upset about, but it is a convenient strawman for Amazon and the writers when in reality their billion $ product is terrible.
dirtyferret
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please, a bunch of racist craps crying in their mom's basement. I hate 99% of reality TV. I simply don't watch it, I don't care if anyone else does. I know people like it, that's fine with me. I don't bomb review the shows because "my opinion needs to be heard by other people". If you don't like the show, don't watch. Write an email to the show runners. Cry you can't leave a review? pathetic!
dirtyferret
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professional reviewers (you know people who actually make money for writing reviews as opposed to amateur shits) say otherwise so your statement is more opinion than fact.
On the review aggregation website Rotten Tomatoes, The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power holds an 84% approval rating with an average score of 7/10 based on 232 reviews by critics. On Metacritic, which uses a weighted average, the series has received a score of 71 out of 100 based on 37 critic reviews, indicating "generally favorable reviews".
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Ohnooze
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Serious question here. Supposedly LOTR was written from a European mythology view or whatever. I'm not a hard core fan so I don't know the details on all that so if I'm wrong let me know.
But If that is true would it be racist to only want white people or mostly white people in the show? I mean if they took black panther and inserted mostly white people in that I'm sure there would be an epic meltdown and review bombing as well.
Well that is an interesting view of the "right wing". Is that all conservatives you're speaking about or the very small percentage of crazies out there?
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dirtyferret
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Europe has no history of dark skin people in Italy, Spain, southern Mediterranean??? I'm no Tolkien buff (Ive read the books once and watched the films) but I saw a lot of "borrowing" from not only early medieval Europe, but European world wars, and the Roman Empire (both West and East) in his world building. Also, it...is...a...fantasy...show. It's all made up.
...yeah
I'll try to picture a comic book movie with only white people in it, it may be hard...but in this particular scenario...I..don't...care. They can make black panther with an all dog cast. It's a comic book. I'm still not going to review bomb it.
Ohnooze
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Actually their reviews are nothing but opinions. And you can see in a lot of cases the majority of the public disagree with them. "Professional" movie reviewers are nothing but writers with opinions. Their opinions are no more valid than the publics.
dirtyferret
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you fail to understand they are professional reviewers, they get paid for their reviews. I linked the definition for you so you can better understand the word. I don't want you to make the mistake of going to an amateur playing doctor as opposed to a professional one.
Definition of PROFESSIONAL
of, relating to, or characteristic of a profession; engaged in one of the learned professions; characterized by or conforming to the technical or ethical standards of a profession… See the full definition
www.merriam-webster.com
dirtyferret
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Professional reviewers are not scoring the movie based on the lore and Tolkien's vision, they are scoring it on "entertainment value, production value, etc", which I'm sure is all fine. The fans are scoring it on, "Is this The Lord of the Rings", and they are saying, no, it isn't. That's why "racism" or whatever you want to blame it on is a strawman, because you are not even aware of the arguments being made. You are just another voice saying, "well if they hated it they're obviously just racist misogynists". That's a really poor excuse. The writers didn't bother to write something that fit in to Tolkien's world, they co-opted it for their own story that doesn't even fit with the material that has been written. It's garbage.
Ohnooze
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I don't disagree with you about LOTR and having different races in it. I mean to me the show is more interesting with different races in it. It just depends on how obvious it is. If it's like "OMG LOOK HOW DIVERSE WE ARE!!" then yeah I have issues with that. But if it comes off natural then that's what is important to me.
dirtyferret
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those bastards, scoring a show for entertainment based on "entertainment value". What is the world we live in coming to?!
Ohnooze
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No, I understand very well what a professional reviewer is. Doctors opinions are based on facts, science and proven results.you fail to understand they are professional reviewers, they get paid for their reviews. I linked the definition for you so you can better understand the word. I don't want you to make the mistake of going to an amateur playing doctor as opposed to a professional one.
Definition of PROFESSIONAL
of, relating to, or characteristic of a profession; engaged in one of the learned professions; characterized by or conforming to the technical or ethical standards of a profession… See the full definition
The comparison you made to try and belittle me was not a good one.
Hmmm....I believe "entertainment value" is subjective.
dirtyferret
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Why? Explain to me how a diverse fantasy show impacts your day to day life that you feel a need to review bomb it? Clearly it's not about the "mythos" as you yourself explained you don't know a whole lot about it.
You mean like what happens in every book to screen adaptation. You don't owe the writers anything, they don't owe you anything.
You don't like the stories, don't watch.
You don't like the cast, don't watch.
You don't like Amazon, don't watch.
You see how this works?
dirtyferret
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yes, because I just taught it to you. I was talking about previously when you clearly did not know the definition.
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