We take a look at the new Radeon RX 7900 GRE or "Golden Rabbit Edition," an odd name for a gaming graphics card. This is going to be sold mostly in China, but maybe you can get them elsewhere, too.
AMD Radeon RX 7900 GRE: The RDNA 3 GPU You Can't Really Buy
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WhiteLeaff
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If faster gddr6 memories or cheap hbm2 were available, it would be feasible to maintain XT performance in a version with less memory.
Considering it's aimed at the Chinese market, I wonder what the cost-per-frame analysis is when currency is converted and prices are adjusted to the market rates in China. It may be a better (or worse) positioned product when compared to the Chinese ecosystem as opposed to the rest of the world.
But, for those of us who don't live in China (which my guess is nearly everyone who visits this site), I guess it doesn't really matter.
But, for those of us who don't live in China (which my guess is nearly everyone who visits this site), I guess it doesn't really matter.
Mr Majestyk
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Wow, barely faster than 6800XT when it is has 80 CUs and the soon to be released 60CU 7800XT, will need to run over 3GHz to even get near the 6800XT. Well played AMD, well played.
yRaz
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nVidia will be getting out of the gaming GPU market soon, AMD is taking their place. I've heard some rumors that nVidia hasn't committed to making an RTX70 series. That's so far away that I don't even think they know what they're going to do but I wouldn't be surprised if they're talking about it.
Due to how they're making chips right now, they'll likely only have very high end GPUs with no low end or midranged. They'll just sell the "bad" chips that aren't server or workstation grade as 80 and 90 series gaming cards.
VcoreLeone
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the ones we here want.
the pricing will still depend on competition, if amd still can't get mcm/dual issue fp32 to work, we'll see more of 4080/4090 pricing.
btw, this 7900gre barely beating my 3080 10g at 1440p is just absolutely terrible. I got it for 380eur with 1.5 yrs of warranty left while 7900gre only comes in 1000 eur systems. 3080 12g would probably beat it.
Anyway, thanks for taking time to review this Steve. As a hardware enthusiast it has to be depressing to review this generation when the only exciting card was the 4090 at 1600.
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ScottSoapbox
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It is weird to say GRE is too close a name to other products when AMD already sells a XT and XTX.
(Now that is too close!)
(Now that is too close!)
Nobina
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Beerfloat
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yRaz
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The thing that I find worrying about the GRE is that it really should have been a 7800XT, not a 7900. So, what is AMD planning to release as the 7800 series?
amghwk
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I was born in a Rabbit Year too, but I think I'll pass on this one. I already have my trusty 5700XT (and a newer Nvidia card for my main rig).
VcoreLeone
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I liked the pro name more (I had 9700 pro at some point), but that would imply something else now. Naming is irrelevant anyway, the problem is availability and performance. AMD will only have two cards that beat 6800xt in 7000 series that you can buy at retailers outside of China. That's same as actual 6000 series with 6900 and 6950.
My friend is waiting for 7800xt as an upgrade for 6700xt at 1440p, I told him I'm not waiting forever and got a 3080 used when I got a solid offer. Poor guy, about to be disappointed. I told him to get a 6800xt/6900 while supply lasts, but he insisted on waiting for 7800xt. Its not even gonna get new features compared to 6000 series.
My friend is waiting for 7800xt as an upgrade for 6700xt at 1440p, I told him I'm not waiting forever and got a 3080 used when I got a solid offer. Poor guy, about to be disappointed. I told him to get a 6800xt/6900 while supply lasts, but he insisted on waiting for 7800xt. Its not even gonna get new features compared to 6000 series.
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systemBuilder
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Steve failed to answer the "Elephant in the room" question. Users need to see an analysis of how well the 7900 GRE overclocks. I believe the clocks are de-tuned vs the 7900 XT and if it overclocks as well as other 7900's, it could be a terrific value as an overclocking GPU, and it could provide even better price/performance than the 7900 XT !
I calculated the cost per frame, at 1440p, based on the current Chinese prices.
6950XT --- $5.6
6800XT --- $6.0
7900XT --- $7.0
7900XTX --- $7.0
4070 --- $7.1
4080 --- $7.4
7900GRE --- $7.6
4070Ti --- $7.8
And for that, I used the scores from here to calculate. Mostly, the available 7000 series AMD ones in China are from Pulse and Hellhound. XFX for the 6000 series.
The Nvidia cheapest variations are some random Chinese brands, usually two fan coolers. Other cards are considerably more expensive.
VcoreLeone
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my 6800 fighter does 2540 while being the cheapest one, my friend's 6800 Gaming Z is the top one, but 2350 is unstable.
silicon lottery is not part of an objective cost per frame analysis.
AMDGeForceRX4090
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This makes no sense. Your results are considerably different to https://www.computerbase.de/2023-08/amd-rdna-2-rdna-3-gaming-vergleich/ their results.
Also you show it neck and neck with the 6800XT, but the 7800XT is about neck and neck with the 6800XT, and the 7900GRE has a bit better specs than that. In fact the 7900GRE has the same specs as the 6950XT, but being RDNA3 instead of 2... So how could it be slower than it in your tests?
Also you show it neck and neck with the 6800XT, but the 7800XT is about neck and neck with the 6800XT, and the 7900GRE has a bit better specs than that. In fact the 7900GRE has the same specs as the 6950XT, but being RDNA3 instead of 2... So how could it be slower than it in your tests?
VcoreLeone
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no, computerbase also shows 6950xt is faster
Die AMD Radeon RX 7900 GRE im Test: Taktraten sowie Benchmarks in FHD, WQHD und UHD mit und ohne RT
Radeon RX 7900 GRE im Test: Taktraten sowie Benchmarks in FHD, WQHD und UHD mit und ohne RT
www.computerbase.de
ask amd how it's possible that their cards are going backwards.
AMDGeForceRX4090
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Are you blind? The GRE is faster in every one of their tests.no, computerbase also shows 6950xt is faster
Die AMD Radeon RX 7900 GRE im Test: Taktraten sowie Benchmarks in FHD, WQHD und UHD mit und ohne RT
Radeon RX 7900 GRE im Test: Taktraten sowie Benchmarks in FHD, WQHD und UHD mit und ohne RT
ask amd how it's possible that their cards are going backwards.
VcoreLeone
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Incorrect again. it's 3% slower in rasterization and only 1% faster in rt. So, slower overall.
AMDGeForceRX4090
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Incorrect again. it's 3% slower in rasterization and only 1% faster in rt. So, slower overall.
Click any of them, pretty much all ahead.
VcoreLeone
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This is another article, where they compare IPC (hence it's "mod"). Compare actual cards in 7900gre review, not rdna3 vs rdna2 ipc summary.
Click any of them, pretty much all ahead.
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