AMD Zen 5 CPUs tipped to enter mass production in Q3 2024

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What just happened? AMD's Zen 4 and 4c designs are showing their age, and the company is actively developing their successor, which is rumored to debut later this year. A recent leak now suggests that Zen 5 CPUs will enter mass production in Q3 2024.

The news originates from the Chinese technology outlet UDN, and claims that Zen 5 chips are expected to enter TSMC fabs between April and June, with mass production scheduled for the following quarter. The report indicates that mainstream Zen 5 CPUs will feature "Nirvana" cores, while chips designed for the dense-compute segment for both client and server applications will ship with Zen 5c "Prometheus" cores.

It's worth noting that while earlier rumors suggested that Zen 5 and 5c would utilize TSMC's 4nm and 3nm process nodes, respectively, the new report proposes that the Zen 5 "Nirvana" CCD will be built using the 3nm node. Currently, it remains unclear which report is accurate, and further clarification is needed.

The latest report contradicts a recent leak that suggested the Ryzen 9000 "Granite Ridge" processors with Zen 5 cores would debut in the second quarter of this year. The leaker also claimed that the new chips would bring at least a 10 percent improvement in IPC over the Ryzen 7000 series, resulting in better performance despite similar clock speeds. Additionally, the leaker revealed that the Ryzen 9000 SKUs would feature the same on-package chiplet design as Zen 2/3/4 and the same IO-die as Zen 4.

Earlier reports also indicated that the Ryzen 9000 CPUs would offer between six and 16 cores and include either RDNA 2 or RDNA 3.5 integrated graphics. The TDP of these chips is reportedly expected to range between 65 watts and 170 watts. The Granite Ridge processors are believed to come with up to 64MB of L3 cache and 16MB of L2 cache. They are also said to support DDR5 memory with speeds up to 6,400 MT/s.

Not much else is officially known about Zen 5 at this point, but AMD had earlier confirmed that the next-gen cores would be part of the Ryzen 9000 desktop CPUs. The upcoming chips have also been confirmed to use the AM5 socket and be compatible with existing 600-series motherboards.

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no they dont they thermal throttle at 100c so they dont run above 100.

*Facepalm* Close enough man… the point is, Intel chips have been running insane temps for years and ever since Zen 4, AMD have taken the same step in the wrong direction by allowing their CPUs to run at 90+ out of the box. Plain and simple. It was a couple of very questionable thermal engineering decisions for AM5 (der8auer really looked into this) and chasing vanishing gains through higher clock speeds past 5Ghz that caused this for AMD. And in the ~2 years between Zen 4 and 5, hopefully AMD will have had enough time to address the high temps like what they achieved through PBO2? Although such a setting really should be the default. Who knows. AM5 has been meh compared to AM4. With the temp issues I mentioned above, memory training times (addressed sure, but not fully), and sparse releases, it almost makes their promise of 3 years of support moot.
 
*Facepalm* Close enough man… the point is, Intel chips have been running insane temps for years and ever since Zen 4, AMD have taken the same step in the wrong direction by allowing their CPUs to run at 90+ out of the box. Plain and simple. It was a couple of very questionable thermal engineering decisions for AM5 (der8auer really looked into this) and chasing vanishing gains through higher clock speeds past 5Ghz that caused this for AMD. And in the ~2 years between Zen 4 and 5, hopefully AMD will have had enough time to address the high temps like what they achieved through PBO2? Although such a setting really should be the default. Who knows. AM5 has been meh compared to AM4. With the temp issues I mentioned above, memory training times (addressed sure, but not fully), and sparse releases, it almost makes their promise of 3 years of support moot.
Absolutely nobody should trust their "promise" after what happened with AM4. Guarantee you well see a repeat with AM5 at some point. All this to maintain cooler compatibility SMH.
 
Absolutely nobody should trust their "promise" after what happened with AM4. Guarantee you well see a repeat with AM5 at some point. All this to maintain cooler compatibility SMH.
Yea everyone should just jump to Intel now and enjoy the guaranteed 100C temps.
100 is 10 more than 90 hence Intel is better.
 
Absolutely nobody should trust their "promise" after what happened with AM4. Guarantee you well see a repeat with AM5 at some point. All this to maintain cooler compatibility SMH.

What happened to AM4? AMD has gone further than promised, as new processors for the AM4 platform were recently released. X3D is so good that it can beat i9 Alderlake in certain games. Stick to reality.
 
Well I think AMD may release a Zen 4+ that could be better binned or a smaller process... Also Zen 5 seems to use a process from 3nm to 5nm... If it go all way to 3nm it could run cooler... Or AMD could get more perfomance from keeping the Zen 4 TDP with Zen 5 to maximize performance.

Anyway if it can last years @200 ºC using a not so expensive cooler solution I really don't care..
 
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Even a relatively cheap AIO can keep the 7xxx below 80c. Undervolt it and you’re looking at mid 60’s. Just because it’s classified to handle 90c without throttling, doesnt mean they run that hot
 
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