AMD's "Next Horizon" will be revealed in a major event on Tuesday

[Sausagemeat]

It seems to me that they are beating Intel in all setups from low end to high end desktops/gaming with only exception of Ultra High end gaming and there too the margin is small.
Ryzen and Threadripper dominate professional computers now and servers are dominantly threadrippers now. Every community now recommends Ryzen processors for 90% of times. This is a huge change since last year.
Intel has been complacent and has not innovated in a decade now and the really funny thing is now AMD is leading innovation. Fortune favors the bold.

Intel still sell about 8 CPUs for every one AMD sell and when compared core for core Intel win practically every single benchmark and clock higher. When clocked the same Intel chips use less power and produce less heat whilst performing slightly faster.

In fact the only thing AMD win on is price where they are significantly cheaper per core than Intel.

 

[Eldritch]

Intel still sell about 8 CPUs for every one AMD sell and when compared core for core Intel win practically every single benchmark and clock higher. When clocked the same Intel chips use less power and produce less heat whilst performing slightly faster.

In fact the only thing AMD win on is price where they are significantly cheaper per core than Intel.

Yes and I will freely admit every computer I have had till date had Intel cpu in it.
However, my next build is going to be AMD based as the Price/Performance ratio is now skewed in favor of AMD. Lets see how the next gen Ryzen being announced today turn out. If the rumors are remotely true then they have got an first time consumer in me.

 

[mbrowne5061]

you're right, my 10nm should say 12. my mistake. really odd seeing intel behind, but like I said if they're both making chips on the same die size amd will most likely be in trouble like always. they still aren't beating intels best right now with the 7nm process. we'll just have to see how zen2 competes with a 9900k and if they'll need to respond with a new lineup. which im sure they'll be forced to and I can't wait to see . very interesting stuff when the underdog starts making a comeback.

Eldritch is right, AMD wins up until the very high end, where Intel wins out with slightly better IPCs and cycle times. I would bet this difference can largely be explained by the fact that Zen is a very new architecture, and it is going up against Core-I, which is a very mature architecture. But AMD doesn't have 7nm yet - they're still at 12nm with Zen+, and they will soon with Zen2 though. I am betting that Zen2 wipes out the remaining IPC and cycle advantages of Intel, while offering significantly more processing threads than Intel.

But to be clear: Intel is moving processor back to 22nm, because they can't produce enough volume at 12nm. This isn't necessarily solely because of demand, it is in large part because of the supply-side bottlenecks. Intel bins their processors a lot. A lot of silicon gets flashed, but isn't useable and has to get scrapped. Honestly, Intel is probably at the very limit of what can be produced with FINFET and other 3D architectures, and will continue to have trouble with die shrinks until they abandon it.

 

[DubiousFishHook]

I'm from Europe, here we use GMT plus and minus for time. no idea what "ET" & "UTC" means. thanks anyway.

 

[m3tavision]

Your comment is based on nothing but hope, not fact or past trends.

You have no numbers other than price. You lack facts and only offer weak predictions that are based on hope and faith.

Just because you refuse to read, watch, observe what AMD has announced, mentioned or have said... doesn't mean everyone is as ignorant as you. It is YOU that has no numbers, or facts. I suspect it is because you have not allowed yourself to read any of the AMD blogs on their tech, or what Dr Su has said or mentioned.

You are not a tech enthusiast.


Again, YOUR post falls short because you have NOTHING to retort, & his educated assessment of AMD situation is plausible, even worthy of debate.

Again, you have fallen short because you are hypocritical and don't recognize the basics, or understanding of what 7nm bring to the table for all tech companies and how it will benefit them all individually.

You act as if: AMD doesn't receive such 7nm benefits, on a 7nm process… and pretend slides and blogs don't exist for 7nm. As if your post are of you... hoping that AMD doesn't benefit that much from going to TSMC's newest process.

 

[hahahanoobs]

Just because you refuse to read, watch, observe what AMD has announced, mentioned or have said... doesn't mean everyone is as ignorant as you. It is YOU that has no numbers, or facts. I suspect it is because you have not allowed yourself to read any of the AMD blogs on their tech, or what Dr Su has said or mentioned.

You are not a tech enthusiast.


Again, YOUR post falls short because you have NOTHING to retort, & his educated assessment of AMD situation is plausible, even worthy of debate.

Again, you have fallen short because you are hypocritical and don't recognize the basics, or understanding of what 7nm bring to the table for all tech companies and how it will benefit them all individually.

You act as if: AMD doesn't receive such 7nm benefits, on a 7nm process… and pretend slides and blogs don't exist for 7nm. As if your post are of you... hoping that AMD doesn't benefit that much from going to TSMC's newest process.

You're just repeating what every other AMD fanboy does, which is nothing but hope and faith based on what? AMD's exceptional track record? I think I'm the only one on this planet that is not getting excited about everything coming out of AMD.

I'm not only a techie, but I'm a realist. Your comments contain NO numbers and NO source links. Just thoughts and weak predictions that can be found in any comment thread about an upcoming AMD product.

Moms, dads, aunts and uncles have NO use for 8+ cores. AMD wants you to think that, but only because AMD sucks at competing in the clock speed race with Intel. Oh, they also suck at writing software. More cores need software to accompany them. Software that is only beneficial to gamers and productivity. You know what percentage of people need that many cores? 20% if that. Guess who represents the remaining 80%? EVERYONE ELSE. That's the market you go after if you want to make a comeback if you're confused.

Good luck with your AMD. It's been 2 years since Zen was a thing and Intel JUST posted RECORD revenue - AGAIN - with 14nm! Can you say $80b for the year?!