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Analysts: PS3 to win current-generation console war

By Matthew
Mar 8, 2010
  1. Jebster89

    Jebster89 TS Rookie

    PC does have its advantages, but not a lot of gamers are really up to that whole keeping in touch with the constant updates of hardware. Or have very lucrative income that they can spend a couple grand on a new system. As well the whole change to online gaming, or always having a online connection really sucks bad. Consoles at least you know your getting a good working system. They dont have to do that online thing, as well for some reason developers are thinking LAN is more important on consoles than PC. Oh dont forget to check those possible viruses and spyware you have to make sure you continue to keep those frame rates.

    Maybe games are not always 720p, but a few are. As the developers figure out more on pushing these system to the limits than we will have games to a higher level but never at the highest potential.
     
  2. Jebster89

    Jebster89 TS Rookie

    Uh, what about that failure to consider Dual Layer DVDs, Super Smash Brawl was such a fun game for the few days of playing before my Wii went down, and had to send in for repairs. Thankfully quite a few people had this issue, so it was free. No wonder they dont do the whole playback of DVDs.
     
  3. cocodel

    cocodel TS Rookie Posts: 16

    Sony a big company with innovative ideas and long tradition in game console they will do the best to stay in top.Xbox could threat PS3 top position because behind Xbox is a gigant Microsoft with tons of money and an army of people and they can produce something better than PS3.Time will show as the winner
     
  4. the ps3 was expensive at start because of its hardware. not because it was a new release. look at the blu-ray and the cell processor.
     
  5. yorro

    yorro TS Enthusiast Posts: 246

    The "exclusives" are the serious factor that made PS3 the king. I think the people who bought one were thinking about playing Uncharted 2 or God of War 3 rather than the other features that makes their investment worthwhile.
     
  6. ET3D

    ET3D TechSpot Paladin Posts: 984   +31

    The average time between console generations is 5 years (was 6 between PS2/3 and 4 between Xbox/360, but otherwise quite consistent, and even that's not a huge departure). With the 360 arriving at the end of 2005 and the PS2/Wii at the end of 2006, 2011 looks like a good point to switch gens.

    If in this time frame Nintendo creates a new gen Wii that's compatible with the old one and has a reasonable cost, I can see the Wii dying off, and the analysts being correct.

    I also think that the PS3 does have more potential in the long run, to continue selling as a media centre / console / computer. Partly because of Blu-ray, and partly because I think Microsoft will not want to give the Xbox fuller capabilities, like web browsing.

    I suspect, though, that Microsoft will again beat Sony to market with a new generation console, so even if the PS3 does end up selling the most, that's be because its competitors have moved on to next generations.
     
  7. rajmond

    rajmond TS Rookie Posts: 45

    The Sony Playstation was always the best among game consoles
     
  8. slh28

    slh28 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,925   +170

    I'm assuming you mean FF13 but that's also out on the 360 which is just plain wrong... (not to mention the fact that it runs on a lower resolution). I'm really looking forward to Unchartered 2 and God of War 3 as well and of course Gran Turismo 5, which will actually run in 1080p native.
     
  9. I'm an owner of a 360 and a PS3. PS3 is a fine machine but does not have the 360's visual prowess. Whilst the whole "Cell Design" has potential it does not translate in to real world results. When a title gets released for the 360 and the PS3, the 360 title almost always looks better.

    Resistance 2 and Kill Zone 2 are good games but they do not match the experience offered by Gear Of War, Mass Effect or Halo.

    Blue Ray is a big let down in terms of visual improvement. The storage capacity is an advantage but it does NOT look THAT good.

    The PS3 is a nice system but not an outright winner.
     
  10. most "exclusives" ended up being available on the 360 as well - not to mention the fact that they were better on the 360.

    Ghostbusters / Bayonetta anyone ?

    Uncharted 2 looks nice but it ain't no Mass Effect 2 !
     
  11. AfricanTech

    AfricanTech TS Rookie Posts: 71

    I also prefer the xbox - the controller is much more comfortable (for me) than the PS3 controller. Now is only MS would relent and bung a BluRay drive into the thing then it would be perfect.
     
     
  12. fref

    fref TS Enthusiast Posts: 153

    I don't understand how analists can make that kind of prediction. I mean, it takes only one big hit game on one console and everything can change. Or let's say Project Natal is awesome and everyone wants it, the Xbox might sell a lot more units then. Strategy Analytics can't possibly know how the device will turn out to be and what the public's reception will be. So, in the end, I think this is just a way to have people talk about Strategy Analytics.... :)
     
  13. yangly18

    yangly18 TS Rookie Posts: 242

    wow, how can you say PS3 is handsdown the winner when xbox OBVIOUSLY blows PS3 out of the water on online play. Yes, PS3 is free to play online, but it SUCKS. Who really wants to DOWNLOAD a game to their system before they can play it??? if I BUY a game I want to PLAY it not have to WAIT for it to download on the system. You might argue that it comes with a blue ray player....does everyone have a tv that you can actually NOTICE the difference??? Can YOU even notice the difference when you put HD next to blueray??? Perhaps Playstation WAS the best, I won't argue there, but they arn't anymore, not now, not EVA. plus whos going to use the 3D function on it, the SUPER RICH who can afford the brand new 3D TV'S??? Yeah, that's what I thought. Screw PS3, almost every game I would ever want to play is also on the xbox, PS3 only really has maby a couple titles to brag on but that's not enough to make me like them better. GO XBOX (screw the wii too, it's for little kids)
     
  14. yangly18

    yangly18 TS Rookie Posts: 242

    YEAH 10 years ago.
     
  15. woodnutz78

    woodnutz78 TS Rookie

    WTF are you talking about? Downloading before playing...? Okay maybe an update to a game, but not the game itself unless you buy it from the PS store. Since Bluray is the official HD format, you comparing the two doesn't even make sense. And yes, anyone with halfway decent vision can see the difference between 420 and 720/1080. I would guess that a TON of people have made the transition to HD-capable televisions. I do agree with your Wii comment, though - it's purely novelty, not a gaming system. Other than that, your comment is totally illogical and without merit.
     
  16. Richy2k9

    Richy2k9 TS Enthusiast Posts: 515

    hello ...

    i may agree partly with the title. 1st i'm no PS3 fanboy nor MS hater, at the base i am a PC gamer but also owns a PS3.

    I used to play a lot on the PC & now i do so on SONY's console.

    Why this can be true?

    - This is the rule of who started late enough to have a more secure & stable system & make less mistake than the others. while 'almost' everyone whined about the 'supposedly high price tag' of the former PS3, it was still 20 million units sold & with a fail rate below 10% there is no chance that there were re-purchased system. being late on the market caused a big issue like developers already at ease with other systems, yet with the PS3 depending mostly on 1st party developers & the impressive lineup, it's starting to show that it can catch up.

    - with the xbox360 having a 'high level of fail rate' (54% i think) & a "high level of re-purchased" (34% of the 54%), it became a problem for those now wanting to venture into the HD gaming world, at the same time SONY dropped the price with a less consuming & more reliable system (minus some bonus, but the sales figures afterwards show - who cares!)

    - don't forget that the former xbox didn't go too far compared to the PS2, so SONY has a good fanbase, who were a bit down at the beginning, yet it's too late, they have tasted God of War, Final Fantasy & GT. yes SONY lost some exclusivity but it will not cause a big issue, for in exchange there are some new 1st party softs that owns the world of gamin (UC series anyone, LBP or ICO!?)

    Why this can be false?

    - Nintendo has always been 'the real gaming machine industry' ... we can't deny it! The WII seems to be targeting a niche market, yet it has 'infected' too many of us, i really thought of getting one too, the Mario franchise is one of the best. Nintendo has true Exclusive, while SONY has some from 1st party developpers & a few from 3rd party. MS has a big problem, it's piracy, even if this touches other platforms too, it is a real plague for PC & Xbox, mainly because the PC is the tool used in the process. ISOs, Burners, Peer-to-peer, Emulators, all on PC! MS has exclusive that are no true to Xbox360 or PC, they come out on MS platform, someone owning a PC + WII or PS3 has a better combo than PC + Xbox360, now taking in consideration that most gamers have also a PC ...

    With Natal coming soon, will help already Xbox360 owners go further, yet it's too bad not everyone is ready to go that way, while some new titles are coming to the system, if they are not pirated before official release may have some high sales figures. will natal move more system, time will tell.

    SONY Arc is a perfect addon to look & feel like a WII or a little less than Natal, yet it's like any other motion controller setting, a like it or hate it. I'm not sure will move more console either. 3D being as for now a reality for PC gaming (if you can put the price) & soon on PS3 is still a questioned technology, personally i would love it, but can't speak for others, time will tell. Too bad Xbox360 can't do 3D, still don't know where it's going, so who cares for now.

    To conclude, if there were no piracy on the PC, it would have been the best selling platform ever for it's the best gaming machine ever, yet if we put this aside, the PS3 sales is showing that it can catch up with all the competitors, just because of it's new price tag & great 'true' exclusive software lineup. The WII can be stable, hard to catch, but not unbeatable, a console generation may be of 10 years & we are half the road. MS must come up with something, else would certainly suffer, yet Natal can help a bit, if someday i decide to go that way, it will be because of this project, unless it comes also on PC, then too bad!

    Sorry for long post ;)

    cheers!
     
  17. Puiu

    Puiu TS Evangelist Posts: 1,085   +106

    Sorry, it was my mistake. Too bad we can't edit.
    The 360 version of FF 13 isn't worth mentioning.
    Another cool game that could be a hit is Blur (on both consoles) and it seems people are more interested in FF Versus XIII than the other version.
    If Sony improves their online services then they'll truly win over 360. (but i do prefer free over payed anytime)
     
  18. OWnsYourMom27

    OWnsYourMom27 TS Rookie

    Ooh this guy thinks he's Captain Knots. Dude are you on Crack? You ever pop a game in and have to wait for it to Install? If you are a PS3 owner then you have answered YES to this question. WTF is the point of owning a gaming console if you have to wait to install a game just like on the PC? Might as well have a PC.Then if the install itself isn't bad enough sometimes you have to get an update AND install it TOO! Niether of these would be that bad but the installs can take literally HOURS sometimes.

    Just to be clear, I Love my PS3 and I own all 3 systems as well as a PC, but due to the installs and HORRIBLE Online service the only games I own on the PS3 are the PS3 exclusives. PS3 might have way more processing power than the 360 but is it used? NOPE! Games look pretty much the same if not exactly the same. If PS3 wins the wars its solely because of Microsoft haters and SONY Fanboys.

    GET SOME!
     
  19. Trillionsin

    Trillionsin TS Evangelist Posts: 1,097   +43

    PS3 has been my favored system since the first in its series, but with the previous outage of the old factor PS3 models, I've become a little disappointed with the online service. It's awesome that its free.. but I guess sometimes the saying is correct, "You get what you pay for."
     
  20. natefalk

    natefalk TS Rookie Posts: 78

    I totally agree. The only reason the PS3 was so expensive to begin with was b/c of the Bluray player, which was the cheapest Bluray player for a long time. I bought my PS3 for that exact reason. For HDTV owners the PS3 was a way to watch 1080p movies.

    As far as hardware, the PS3 is way ahead of Xbox 360. Case in point: The English version of FFXIII had to be "toned down" in terms of graphics so they could port it to XBox. Sad but true. In Japan they could care less about XBox which is way it is PS3 exclusive in Japanese.

    I also think the software is much better. XBox has a few good exclusive titles (Halo,Gears of War), but IMO the exclusive titles for PS3 are just as good if not better (Heavy Rain, MAG, God of War 3,ect...).
     
  21. compdata

    compdata TechSpot Paladin Posts: 604

    The PS3 definitely has some advantages to it that will help it in the next couple years. The first is that it functions as a Blu-Ray player as well. I currently don't have a console, but if i was going to purchase one based on the available games and the utility - the PS3 wins out for me.
     
  22. LightHeart

    LightHeart TS Rookie Posts: 155

    PC

    I learned many years ago to stick with the PC for games. The main reason is that you have to make an additional investment into a console and it's games then before you know it, it's pretty much worthless junk. Yes, you can say that about the PC as well, however I can still play games from 20 years ago on it, some are just as fun as games today. While the console leaders each claim this or that and all change over time, the PC is still going strong. Just my 2 cents worth.
     
  23. MrAnderson

    MrAnderson TS Maniac Posts: 488   +10

    The analysis of needs to be liquid over the course of a console's life. There are more variables. Does selling more units nearly when the technology is irrelevant matter? Those years are crucial to Sony making lost money back, not turning profit on the system. Nintendo will probably have milked Wii or have another iteration of the technology but still turning profets all the while. Microsoft will probably iterate too, because they don't want compatability issues. The more expensive the investment in games the need to access an old library might come into play. By this analysis Sony did when the past generation war and sales of PS2 units continue. However, as large as this platform base is, developers are not creating new titles for it.

    Why... maybe because Sony has not remarketed PS2 the way they should. The PS2 could be repackaged to fight the Wii on almost equal ground, but they are just saticfied with it continuing to sell. That's is a little off topic... the point is... Does selling the most at the end really matter where the competition has already made their profet and moved on. Also, will developers have moved on too? - as PS2 gets very few titles these days.
     
  24. What's with these PC guys jumping on the guys making their say about their consoles? This is about "Current generation Console War"!!! Not PC war...which everyone should know is superior to consoles. So just shut the PC attacks and comment if you own a Console.

    PS3 for the win hands down!!!
     
  25. BMfan

    BMfan TS Guru Posts: 481   +49

    I would have to say yes and no to that,while on the pc i prefer fps and sims,on the PS3 i prefer my racing games and the GTA series i find better on the ps3 aswell.
     
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