Anonymous and LulzSec, "Hello thar FBI," NATO servers breached

[Rick]

Amidst a flurry of recent press, self-proclaimed hacktivist group, "Anonymous," claims to have acquired 1GB of data after compromising NATO servers via a "simple injection" technique. 

Substantiating their own claim, Anonymous released a PDF containing a single, restricted document for public consumption. The 36-page paper (likely to disappear) is branded with "NATO RESTRICTED" which is one of the lowest classifications for secretive NATO materials but still restricted, nontheless. Despite the apparent evidence however, officials have yet to confirm this breach in security at the time of this writing.

Additionally, Anonymous and another hacktivist group, Lulzsec (Lulz Security), also issued this joint statement to the FBI. The open statement appears to be a direct response to comments made by FBI Deputy Assistant Director, Steve Chabinsky, during an interview with NPR. The article discusses the recent raids and arrests made on 16 suspected hackers.

The letter begins, "Hello thar [sic] FBI and international law authorities," and continues on, driving home Anonymous' usual anti-corruption and Internet freedom talking points.

"... These governments and corporations are our enemy. And we will continue to fight them, with all methods we have at our disposal, and that certainly includes breaking into their websites and exposing their lies. "

-- Anonymous & Lulzsec in open letter to FBI

Anonymous makes it abundantly clear that government corruption, corporate influence and the erosion of our digital rights are causes worth fighting for. For such a fight, Anonymous also claims they are willing to use any means necessary on the digital battlefield. What do you think about Anonymous, their goals and the means by which they plan to achieve those goals?

Update: A self-identified member of Anonymous has informed CBS journalists that data is still being downloaded from NATO server databases. Despite @IRCAnonymous calling such a release of NATO information as "irresponsible", the source was quoted as follows, "Anonymous ALWAYS releases EVERYTHING we take...eventually.  But with these big classified dumps we like to take our time analyzing exactly what it is we have. That way we can do the disclosures in such a way as to maximize the political impact of the release."

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[rajmond]

I like them.

 

[Trillionsin]

Keep it up and everyone join in. woot

 

[TeamworkGuy2]

I don't know, I still don't understand what their ultimate goal is.
Are they trying to take over the internet? be the next socialist society? get news coverage and look cool?
I honestly don't know, and until I do, I probably won't side with them.
What do you think?

 

[TomSEA]

I think they're a bunch of pin-headed, socially dysfunctional script kiddies whose Mama didn't them the attention they thought they deserved.

 

[gwailo247]

Words of wisdom from times of yore:

"I fought the law and the law won."

 

[ragreeen2646]

We have to be concerned about this, we can already start to see the hand of government getting involved.
This hacking will force governments and big businesses to increase measures that will ultimately decrease our privacy and freedom on the Internet.
When freedom becomes license to do what ever suits your fancy, repression will follow.

 

[Butch]

Anyone who likes or support these guys is about as sharp as a bag of wet hair...

 

[Xothos]

What most of you sheeple do not understand is that the government and corporations have already taken most of your freedoms away. How many more bylaws and amendments to the constitutions and charters out there made by *****s in parliment or the senate do you want??? I hope these guys bring the arrogant governments and corporations to their knees, because it's YOUR money they are spending to take away your rights and freedoms. Have fun being imprisioned within your own life. Go Anonymous, and Go Lulzsec, because if someone doesn't stop these ppl soon we'll all be in a martial law-type life.

X

 

[gwailo247]

xothos said:
Go Anonymous, and Go Lulzsec, because if someone doesn't stop these ppl soon we'll all be in a martial law-type life.
X

You're 100% correct. Their actions WILL bring about more restrictions and more internet laws. To the point that some people believe that Anon and LS are false flags by the US Gov't to bring about that very thing.

The fact that these groups are doing NOTHING USEFUL to end this corruption that you speak of makes our inevitable loss of freedoms due to their actions even more irritating. If they at least did something more useful than stealing e-mail addresses and DDoS'ing useless web pages then at least it might be worth it.

If they at least brought some politician or corporation down, then I would see their actions as having some use. All they are doing is proving to a lot of people that when you combine stupid children along with unrestricted internet access, that regular citizens private information is at risk. These aren't hackers, these are vandals with a modicum of "skillz". If they were real hackers, they would actually get valuable data. You know, the secret hidden **** that brings down governments, not usernames on Sony.

 

[edison5do]

I like them, but they will be dead if they keep doing these stuff... LAW rules and you can take up all by your self

 

[w3b0n]

ragreeen2646 said:
We have to be concerned about this, we can already start to see the hand of government getting involved.
This hacking will force governments and big businesses to increase measures that will ultimately decrease our privacy and freedom on the Internet.
When freedom becomes license to do what ever suits your fancy, repression will follow.

what if its done in purpose to justify new coming sensation: iBig Brother

 

[yRaz]

gwailo247 said:
You know, the secret hidden **** that brings down governments, not usernames on Sony.

That is a very good point, I just stopped being a supporter. I use to think what they were doing was cool but when you put it like that it puts in perspective how silly and useless what they're doing really is.

 

[Xothos]

gwailo247 said:

If they at least brought some politician or corporation down, then I would see their actions as having some use. All they are doing is proving to a lot of people that when you combine stupid children along with unrestricted internet access, that regular citizens private information is at risk. These aren't hackers, these are vandals with a modicum of "skillz". If they were real hackers, they would actually get valuable data. You know, the secret hidden **** that brings down governments, not usernames on Sony.

I see it as the start of an avalanche...right now it's just a snowball, but I'm hoping Anon and Lulz give it a big push.

 

[Xothos]

Maybe they should team up with WikiLeaks?

 

[Richy2k9]

hello ...

"oh la la ... "

It's too late now, am-i bad if i feel pity for them !?

expect:

- new laws
- new sanctions
- new crisis

& more work for me :S

cheers!

 

[Vrmithrax]

I find it amazingly ironic that these 2 groups of bored (and obviously gifted) hackers are taking aim at governments and corporations as their enemies... Yet they are using methods and tools that would not even exist if not for governments and corporations.

They are obstinately vague in the definition of their targets and motives. Now, calling out your targets specifically is usually not a good idea when engaged in subterfuge, so I can forgive that one. But, seriously, try giving us a real reason, not just the paranoia-filled "they are the enemy" shtick we hear time after time. And, since when did Lulzsec go from being a group bored doing it for fun to hacktivists issuing agendas and statements?

Ah, but they do have one positive - every time they hack a system, they force their targets to work harder on security. I just hope ragreeen2646 isn't right, and their efforts don't end up causing a series of knee-jerk reactions that make the government and corporations clamp down even harder on the general public freedoms.

 

[Eddo22]

I agree with them, however 2 wrongs don't make a right.

 

[Benny26]

They're wasting their time...They won't achieve anything except upgrade NATO's security system, and who ever else's system they decide to target.

Just jack it and get out more.

 

[Wendig0]

I think they're a bunch of pin-headed, socially dysfunctional script kiddies whose Mama didn't them the attention they thought they deserved.

Words of wisdom from times of yore:

"I fought the law and the law won."

We have to be concerned about this, we can already start to see the hand of government getting involved.
This hacking will force governments and big businesses to increase measures that will ultimately decrease our privacy and freedom on the Internet.
When freedom becomes license to do what ever suits your fancy, repression will follow.

Anyone who likes or support these guys is about as sharp as a bag of wet hair...

Couldn't have said it better myself.

 

[MilwaukeeMike]

These groups are the worst type of activist. They have no specific agenda only to 'expose lies' and they use illegal methods to do it. A good activist follows the rules and has a specific purpose, and this yields results.
Gwailo is right, If these hackers do achieve their goal and actually scare the govt or cause a real problem we will have a flurry of protectionist congressmen passing bills to 'protect' us and before you know it you'll need to apply for a license to go online.
Last time the govt got scared it was when the BP rig blew up in the gulf and their solution was to outlaw new rigs, which immediately pushed the plans for new ones off shore (more dependence on foreign oil) and drove up gas prices, all for an overreaction.
One group tearing holes in security and we go from freedom to post 9/11 airport security. Make no mistake, they are not on your side.

 

[cliffordcooley]

A good activist follows the rules and has a specific purpose, and this yields results.

That is exactly what any government wants and it does not yield results. If it starts to yield results, the government will change the rules.

 

[wcbert]

And when these groups becomes too powerful who is going to police them? Another Anonymous and LulzSec group? In their statements I see them fighting the system along with arrogance.

A while back PBS publishes at story they did not like they went after PBS. When someone publish a story they do not ?like? they become a target for these two groups. What are they Fox News? Murdoch?

When these cowboys have finish with the bad guys they will go after you too! Why? Because they deciede who is the bad guys are and what consider bad in the first place!

 

[treetops]

Good release the lies.

 

[Butch]

Jeez, there is some serious government paranoia in these comments. I agree that most governing bodies are not perfect but they are required and necessary. You people running off at the mouth about "bringing the governments to their knees" etc are so wrong it's scary. I'm glad that you will never amount to anything important.