Anonymous and LulzSec, "Hello thar FBI," NATO servers breached

[lawfer]

gwailo247 said:

xothos said:
Go Anonymous, and Go Lulzsec, because if someone doesn't stop these ppl soon we'll all be in a martial law-type life.
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You're 100% correct. Their actions WILL bring about more restrictions and more internet laws. To the point that some people believe that Anon and LS are false flags by the US Gov't to bring about that very thing.

The fact that these groups are doing NOTHING USEFUL to end this corruption that you speak of makes our inevitable loss of freedoms due to their actions even more irritating. If they at least did something more useful than stealing e-mail addresses and DDoS'ing useless web pages then at least it might be worth it.

If they at least brought some politician or corporation down, then I would see their actions as having some use. All they are doing is proving to a lot of people that when you combine stupid children along with unrestricted internet access, that regular citizens private information is at risk. These aren't hackers, these are vandals with a modicum of "skillz". If they were real hackers, they would actually get valuable data. You know, the secret hidden **** that brings down governments, not usernames on Sony.

This about sums it up.

 

[Darkshadoe]

I do see some good out of that these guys are doing, they are just going about it the wrong way. They are forcing these companies, governments and etc. to beef up their internet security. Like others have mentioned, they may have went too far in doing it. Anon and Lulzsec made the mistake of being vocal about it and bragging.

No one should absolutely, 100% trust their government. As the saying goes...Who watches the watchmen.

 

[NeoFlux]

Famous Stalin quote "Give us the man, we will match the law"

 

[foreverzero89]

butch said:
Jeez, there is some serious government paranoia in these comments. I agree that most governing bodies are not perfect but they are required and necessary. You people running off at the mouth about "bringing the governments to their knees" etc are so wrong it's scary. I'm glad that you will never amount to anything important.

and you put way too much faith in our uber corrupt government. its is a citizens duty to change the gov't when it no longer serve him, and that has been the case for far too long.

 

[fpsgamerJR62]

whatever happens next, one thing's for sure, these guys have already crossed the line and this will definitely not end well for any of them.

 

[oldikes]

change the government, through elections and votes. Not through illegal methods, that threaten the government, that will only make life harder. Its a tougher method, I know, but annoying NATO is not the way to go.
What anon did with sony was great. They have now gone WAY too far. Stick with corporations, be my guest, but lay off the government. No good will come from it. Apart from, you know, 'lies' that the govies were keeping from us civies, Probably because the civies don't know how to handle it.

 

[foreverzero89]

ikesmasher said:
change the government, through elections and votes. Not through illegal methods, that threaten the government, that will only make life harder. Its a tougher method, I know, but annoying NATO is not the way to go.
What anon did with sony was great. They have now gone WAY too far. Stick with corporations, be my guest, but lay off the government. No good will come from it. Apart from, you know, 'lies' that the govies were keeping from us civies, Probably because the civies don't know how to handle it.

but the current system doesnt work. he politicians are preapproved by the people behind the curtain so we cant even get a "good guy" where we need him to make the changes we want. the system is the problem, we need a better one.

 

[T77]

"What do you think about Anonymous, their goals and the means by which they plan to achieve those goals?"

Keep up the good work!(as long as there are some worthwhile results....)
But, in the end it may lead to a vicious cycle.....the government invading our privacy.
the movie "Enemy of the State" comes to my mind.......God save us.

 

[Tazo The Vault]

Just another example of "not going down without a fight". Still going down, though.

As much as we love our internet freedoms, fighting them illegally isn't going to do much good.
This isn't a movie, and as such it isn't going to end with the "bad guys of corruption" seeing the error of their ways and releasing all charges.

However, not fighting will end up with loss of net freedom and removing just about any real reason to own a router. It's pretty cyclical. All Anon and Lulz are doing is stalling.

 

[Mindwraith]

but NATO are the good guys..
i miss the old Anonymous that hacked evil governments like egypt and libya

 

[captaincranky]

However, not fighting will end up with loss of net freedom and removing just about any real reason to own a router. It's pretty cyclical. All Anon and Lulz are doing is stalling.

Actually, actions like that of Lulzsec and Anonymous are likely hastening a loss of internet freedom. The powers that be will surely push back harder when they're provoked

I'm still baffled by the idea many of you hold dear, that a government can function properly without secrets.

All that trash that Wikileaks released was mostly gossip, and it's the same type of s*** that each and every one of us blabs to blow off steam.

I'm fairly certain that 10 out of 10 marriages couldn't survive "full disclosure". Why would you think that something as complex as the relations between the world's governments would benefit from it.

Yes, there is corruption, and it could benefit from both exposure and change. But gossip isn't corruption, and doesn't need a stage to play on.

I suppose there is a gray area where gossip worthy behavior crosses the line to become corruption. Take for example the adventures of Sen. John Edwards.

I do view Hypocrisy as a very grave form of corruption, and the more it's exposed, the merrier I am. Do as I say, not as I do, does not fly at all with me.