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Anonymous to NATO: do not challenge us

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  1. yRaz TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 722   +23

    Someone mentioned that it wouldn't take a super computer long to work through the encryption. Have you ever heard of 2048 bit encryption? Currently it is impractical to try to decipher 128 bit encryption no mater what the computer is. I'm sure Anon is using the best they can get and I can't ever imagine 2048 bit encryption getting hacked in my life time.

    I personally find it sick the our government can do things with our tax dollars that we don't know about. When Anon kills someone, then call them a terrorist. Until then, shut up and stop trying screw everyone over, NATO. The average Joe has no privacy anymore, they could set a camera out side my house and monitor me. The government can look at everything I'm doing with out me even knowing it or getting a warrant (check patroit act). Then, when someone says screw that, they are labeled as criminals. I've always believed that nothing will change unless people are willing to die for it. Basement dwellers or not( I really know nothing about Anon's personal life) I think they are willing to make that sacrifice.
  2. princeton TechSpot Addict Posts: 1,715

    Oh the patriot act. Ruining any possible security a US citizen could have. I lost all respect for obama when he extended it.
  3. MilwaukeeMike TechSpot Booster Posts: 979   +193

    Well...yRaz... think about this... if Anon were to hack the govt and prove that the govt is not secure it almost definitely would affect the way we perceive the govt's control and ability to function. If we lose faith in that then it's a short step to a lower credit rating on govt bonds. A lower credit rating would cause interest rates to rise (among other things) and rising interest rates is the last thing we need while trying to recover from a recession. So in your mind 'killing someone' is the end all evil deed, but our last recession (millions of jobs lost) was caused by lower credit ratings on mortgage securities, even ones backed by the govt. This isn't even considering events like securities such as swaps and futures changing value over night and causing huge companies to go under.

    In other news... 3 Anon members were arrested for the Sony hack.
    http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/06/three-anonymous-members-arrested/
  4. Chazz TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 534   +35

    It was all fun and games until these guys couldn't play COD on their PSN network. Now anon must die!!!!!
  5. I wonder if they posted that dire message while waiting for the next halo reach game to begin?

    "Hey Mom, we're out of Chips"

    "so dude, NATO get back to us yet?"
  6. yRaz TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 722   +23

    Creating jobs isn't what this thread is about. However, I'd be more than happy to humor you. Our jobs problem comes from the corporate heads learning that by making their current empolyees work harder they can higher less of them. I'm getting tired of all these "patriots" saying we need to lower taxes for the richest people on earth to create jobs. What people don't understand is they are already making ludicrous amounts of money and will still make ungodly amounts of money no matter how high taxes are. But, you know, taking money away from my kids education and taking away my medicare are all important things too. You want to create more jobs? Educate people, make public works projects, and create government jobs. Wait, nevermind, laying off state employees and teachers is the perfect way to go about creating jobs. I guess I have to make that sacrifice if my favorite CEO is going to bring home $400m this year. I'm only going to make about $18,000 this year between washing dishes and computer jobs on the side. I work ~50 hours a week and go to school full time year round and that takes another 30 hours a week. I'd like to see them do what I do and take their money away instead of the other way around.

    If the private sector isn't going to create jobs then I say raise taxes and let the government do the job creation. I'd like to take a step back for a second, actually, 11 years back to the origin of the bush tax cuts. Those cuts were supposed to help the economy, right? Well, 11 years later(and that is plenty of time to see if something worked) we have yet to see results. Sorry, lowering taxes doesn't not have any effect on creating jobs. We have the last 11 years as evidence to that. BTW, that largest tax cut in history happened under the Obama administration. Liberal/Democratic president my ****.
     
  7. Your arguement is ad hominem and pointless. The previous poster makes a valid point.
    Govenment is, at best, a necessary evil.
  8. Remember when they just used to sign up for Habbo Hotel as black men in suits with afros and blockade swimming pools?

    I wonder if any of the script kiddies involved with the nowadays remember. I doubt it.
  9. Anonymous is getting ridiculous, they are going way over the edge. What is their true purpose? To unlock secrets that may be paramount for national security for many countries? They really need to understand that sometimes secrets are secrets. Seriously, use those hacking skills for the greater good.
  10. jonelsorel Newcomer, in training Posts: 66

    On whose payroll are you again, "guest".. ?
  11. jonelsorel Newcomer, in training Posts: 66

    How about if your govt wakes up one day - hypothetically speaking - thinking that you know too much for its own well-being, and decides to fancy your face behind some bars?

    Do you really think that all those heavy names that got hacked along the years (Nasa, FBI, and the list goes on for a mile) really shared with you ALL the times they got f****ed? Or the extent of the information breached?

    Do you really think that someone smart enough to hack into the NSA or FBI is stupid enough to leave tracks so that you can see his name in a newspaper 2 months before a new law's to pass to "protect the people" from the dangerous cyberattackers out to steal their identities and MONEY..

    And electronic voting machines are 100% foolproof?

    Nobody asks you to know humanity's whole history by heart. Just focus on the last 20 years.

    Ask. Think.
  12. Zecias TechSpot Booster Posts: 202

    yeah governments do bad things, but there will always be governments and you cant stop that.
    I would rather be led by the U.S. government than the taliban.
    as said by guest @ 3:43 the government is a necessary evil.
    be glad that our government is better than most.


    most citizens won't be affected because they monitor suspected terrorists. what reason would they have to monitor someone with no suspicious records? and in the event that they do, big ****ing deal. they're trying to keep the country safe by rooting out possible terrorist suspects. How is their spying going to hurt you anyways? it's just paranoid thinking everyone is out to get you.


    i agree, and if china decided to stop loaning the U.S, Government money, we would all be screwed. have fun dealing with a 14.5 trillion dollar debt. to those who don't know, it's better to be in debt or to have high unemployment than high inflation. High inflation will just destroy the entire U.S. economy. To prevent this, the U.S. government has lowered tax rates, to lower inflation and eventually increase jobs as the economy recovers.


    part of the problem is due to the incompetence of the U.S. government to regulate the economy. The recession was started by a loophole that allowed big companies to basically gamble by selling subprime mortgages to people that can't afford them. and the same companies were bailed out by us, the taxpayers, because they were "too big to go bankrupt" While the individuals selling those mortgages made hundreds of millions. Another problem is large US companies using offshore subsidiaries to reduce the amount of taxes they pay. If i remember correctly, i think google pays 1% in taxes while your average joe pays 30%. And there are the wall street big shots paying 15% in taxes because they risk their money in the stock market only....... they don't. They're using someone elses' money; no risk and extra money.
  13. jonelsorel Newcomer, in training Posts: 66

    Amazing to see how some of you bright and fortunate enough to use a computer do their thinking in terms of media-fed bullshit and hollywood movie cliches...

    60 years of television achieved more than 2000+ of religion..
  14. jonelsorel Newcomer, in training Posts: 66

    What's the "greater good"? Aren't you a perfect citizen, quiet, taxpaying, likes being kept in the dark..

    Some people really like wearing leashes all their life it seems. Makes them feel warm and comfortable..

    Starts when parents say "don't go wondering beyond the block" when you're a kid, and never stops.

    Seriously? I'm conviced you're serious. Just not inquisitive enough.
  15. jonelsorel Newcomer, in training Posts: 66

    OMG! You heard about what the taliban do? Where, Al Jazeera, or FOX?

    Do you happen to know anything about governments BETTER than your own (more civil rights/liberties, better social policies, etc) ? Can you list 5..?

    Terrorist.. the word of the f****g century! What's funny is that it defines both sides..
  16. They will get it eventually. Not today, not tomorrow,, but sometime, they will be caught. They will threaten the wrong people.
  17. jonelsorel Newcomer, in training Posts: 66

  18. Zecias TechSpot Booster Posts: 202

    lol the taliban persecutes the Shi'a ethnic group
    no women's rights
    they have a basic disregard for the rights of their citizens in general
    they house terrorists like the al'queda
    they don't have stuff like social security
    *******........ such ignorance

    i have never denied that the US government is evil and selfish, but its the lesser of the evils. so, i for one, am grateful to live in conditions that many don't have.
  19. Zecias TechSpot Booster Posts: 202

    The way you guys are talking about governments is: it has to be perfect or it should just be completely destroyed.
    1. you should be grateful for the rights you have now.
    2. The U.S. government is not hopelessly corrupt. If your want change, bringing down a government won't do ****. Another equally, or more, corrupt government will take it's place. You should be voting and trying to spread awareness of the current issues. If you have a decent basis for a government, keeping building on it and it will get better, and better. Think about all the advancements various governments around the world have made in the past few centuries. For the most part, they will only continue to improve(even if it is slowly).
  20. No I just think governments should be serving us. The people who put them where they are and pay for the things they do.

    Not the bankster's and corporations that make it worth there while, to strip away or right's and freedom for profit and greed.

    The governments are nothing more than a front. Puppets for the real power and money men. A.K.A. Rothchilds, rockerfeller's and likewise.

    There out of control and they don't care about us.