Apex Legends developer fired over racist, sexist comments made in 2007

And here it goes, the old tactic. It is not the cancel culture, it is not really the cancel culture, it is holding people accountable.

So firstly, since I am from Europe, the only reasons you can fire people here is if they have done something wrong job-related. Either for incompetency, being under influence, showing reckless behaviour and disregard for safety, breaking the law or simply having the surplus of employees who are not needed anymore. And if someone gets fired due to the surplus reason, you cannot rehire anyone for that position for 6 months.

Secondly, stop your low effort fallacies. The cop stopped you because you had broken the law. He didn't break any law. Logical inconsistency, but what to expect.

Freedom of speech was created so people can hold unpopular opinions. And not to be persecuted. The thing is the US is a third world country in that regard with almost no employee protection. And considering the current climate, there is a 95% chance, he didn't say anything racist or sexist. Those words have lost their meaning a long time ago. Having sexy women selling your products or in games - sexist. Doing the very same thing with men, objectifying them, having unreasonable expectations about their look - perfectly ok. Telling that white people are bad, racist, blaming them for things and passing collective guilt on them, perfectly ok. Saying something about black people - reeeeecism.

Freedom of speech, expression, association rights were created so people were protected from the state and persecution. Because back then, the power and influence of the private sector were relatively weak and the state, the Church were the largest, most common censoring bodies. So we created those rights to protect people and not being politically persecuted by the biggest institutional power back then.

And the world has been evolving since, the role of the state in the everyday life of the people was decreasing and the power of the private sector was increasing. Europe reacted and passed the new laws, regulations, such as the banning of discrimination due to age, sex, sexual preference, religion, health condition and disabilities, opinions and political opinions and so on and also, additionally regulated the labour market, so the relationship between employee and employer is strictly professional and they can not ask you about your political or any views, if you are pregnant, believe in god, who did you vote for etc.

The society, we live in, well, "as we" I mean continental Europe, was created with the rule of law in the mind.

That means you are allowed to do whatever is not prohibited by the law and society cannot persecute you due to your opinions if you do not break the law and if they are not illegal. And those granted rights have the form of constitutional laws and cannot be limited or cancelled in any way, which means including a written contract in which you would agree you are giving up your rights. Such a contract would not be legally binding and would be illegal.

Because if you can be fired for voicing a legal opinion, it is not a free society nor country.


So please, spare me of your accountability propaganda. We have laws to hold people accountable, not outraged mobs, or twitter, kotaku etc.


Well good thing respawn isn't a eurpeoan company. Do you think just because you and your "country(s)" views are one way that it applies to everyone?

Stop trying to make "free speech" a right to be an a##hole you have the right to be one for sure... But everyone who ISN'T the government has the right to to tell you f**k off for being one as well (including privately owned and operated companies).

Freedom of speech is only in relation to government.

You point out one of the things I have the hardest time with when it comes to "Europeans" I interact with online....

So many of them think it's their right to be a POS and yet must be "protected" in every way possible from being called out on it.
 
The thing is, it's human nature to spout off things that are on your mind even when you don't entirely believe in it, are mad about something, or trying to be cute. It's patterns of behavior that tell the real story. Offhand comments here and there does not in any way define the true soul or character of a person. Similar to alcohol. This Klein has likely said many more things since then. He's just trying to get into woke heaven now. Cancel Culture goes after people for the express reason to push a narrative. They are just pawns for the narrative. Whether the person was, is, or will be doesn't matter. They don't really care. They're just grateful for the example and someone is up to bat to be made an example of. The narrative is the golden goose. Companies don't care either. If someone, anyone, is bringing the company negative attention, then that person has now went from an asset to a liability. Apologizing doesn't matter. It's scorch earth politics. Cancel Culture is about socialism and anything that can be used to attack the current system is a useful tool.
 
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This coming from Amer
Well good thing respawn isn't a eurpeoan company. Do you think just because you and your "country(s)" views are one way that it applies to everyone?

Stop trying to make "free speech" a right to be an a##hole you have the right to be one for sure... But everyone who ISN'T the government has the right to to tell you f**k off for being one as well (including privately owned and operated companies).

Freedom of speech is only in relation to government.

You point out one of the things I have the hardest time with when it comes to "Europeans" I interact with online....

So many of them think it's their right to be a POS and yet must be "protected" in every way possible from being called out on it.

This coming from American is actually hilarious. During the inauguration of every president, there is always the same nonsense being propagated every time.

How your nation and the view of the world, human rights, the American way of living, the dream is so special, unique, superior and such values MUST BE adopted by everyone.

Nice cognitive dissonance. Not to mention, that your country "officially" invades others to spread democracy and coins fake reason to do so.

It is not my problem your country is corrupted af, it is not my problem that when it comes to the protection of livelihood and basic human rights, your country is the absolute third world.

So keep living in your bubble, first, you had conservatives cancelling others because of an opinion, now you have "liberals" doing the very same thing. It is an inherited and ingrained part of your culture. You never were a free country and considering, that till the end of the 60s, racism and segregation was real in your country, you preaching something about others areas of the world which are significantly more developed and respect human rights, it is very rich, American. So go invade a Middle East country and don't bother me with your nonsense when you defend the Middle age period practices.
 
At least now he can find a job with a company that isn't completely terrible in every regard.
 
Your decision to fire a lead designer on Apex Legends (Daniel "Zenon" Klein) for what he did 14 years ago reveals to the world how you operate. This type of behavior doesn’t help to heal past hurts and trounces on people that have changed. It also sends a clear message to those who want to change for the better ie. “why bother”. Tell me, are you perfect? If you make a mistake do you deserve time to change or another chance? Obviously not if you are Respawn Entertainment.

I will endeavor to not support Respawn Entertainment in the future and will do my best to influence others to do the same.
 
This coming from Amer


This coming from American is actually hilarious. During the inauguration of every president, there is always the same nonsense being propagated every time.

How your nation and the view of the world, human rights, the American way of living, the dream is so special, unique, superior and such values MUST BE adopted by everyone.

Nice cognitive dissonance. Not to mention, that your country "officially" invades others to spread democracy and coins fake reason to do so.

It is not my problem your country is corrupted af, it is not my problem that when it comes to the protection of livelihood and basic human rights, your country is the absolute third world.

So keep living in your bubble, first, you had conservatives cancelling others because of an opinion, now you have "liberals" doing the very same thing. It is an inherited and ingrained part of your culture. You never were a free country and considering, that till the end of the 60s, racism and segregation was real in your country, you preaching something about others areas of the world which are significantly more developed and respect human rights, it is very rich, American. So go invade a Middle East country and don't bother me with your nonsense when you defend the Middle age period practices.
Look at you having to go down every rabbit hole you can to try an attack my country when you get butt hurt someone called you out for your s&*t takes.

Free speach isn't the right to be a s**t head out actions including our words have consequences. I excuse NOTHING any s**t head American does or says as well and unlike yourself don't attach my personal actions to the worst of my kind.

You in the other hand are just a gross as so many others I've had the "pleasure" to interact with yet I KNOW that not every single person from your country is a terrible as you.

Ive just had to statically accurate correlation that the ones like you are the ones I'm most likley to end up stuck interacting with online.

The rest of your decent citizens aren't wasting their time online with crap takes like yours.
 
Stop trying to persecute people for things they did decades ago. If you catch them continuing to do those things. It would be different.
I didn't DO anything but I also know that any free speech act here also applies to the company they absolutely don't have to associate with someone who would EVER say something like this (whether they believe that how or say similar things now is irrelevant)

The company has a reputation it wishes to have and if they choose to distance themselves from someone capable of saying something like this then that's their right just as much as it was his right to say it.
 
they absolutely don't have to associate with someone who would EVER say something like this (whether they believe that how or say similar things now is irrelevant)
Wrong! People change and grow up. They shouldn't continually be persecuted for things they did 10 years previous. As for company image. They didn't care until someone made a big deal out of it. If anything the person that dredged up the story, should have been prosecuted for pushing a smear campaign. That is literally just as bad as revenge porn. Which is now deemed illegal.
 
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